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Spice synthetic marijuana side effects

Side effects of synthetic marijuana can be similar to hallucinogenic drugs. Side effects of Spice can even include hallucinations and delusions. Learn more here.

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Discussing the side effects of synthetic marijuana can be difficult. Namely, one user’s side effects are another’s desired effects. Thus the list of side effects below is my opinion of what constitutes a side effect. Let me illustrate further.

Various forums and discussion groups report that smoking “Spice” (we use the term “Spice” here to refer to all generic synthetic marijuana that contains JWH compounds, which do not yet show up on synthetic cannabis drug tests ) can have similar effects as hallucinogens. That is, reality is substantially altered for the user. Some people like to alter reality thus this effect for them at least is a desired effect. However, others, who were expecting a less intense more marijuana-like high from Spice, see this as a side-effect.

Natural marijuana short term side effects

Marijuana users generally report the following effects when they smoke cannabis:

  • increased sensitivity to touch
  • mild euphoria
  • reduced blood pressure
  • relaxation
  • sleepiness

These are desired effects and are one of the reasons why so many smoke cannabis. Less desired effects of cannabis use include paranoia and hunger (munchies). At higher doses and/or from habitual use, users may experience hallucinations and delusions but these side effects are relatively uncommon and rare.

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Synthetic marijuana short term side effects

Spice is known as a marijuana substitute. As Spice is marketed as a cannabis alternative and binds to the same cannabinoid receptors in the brain as marijuana, you would expect it to have similar effects. Yet, in many cases this is not so. The side effects of Spice include (even at low doses):

  • delusions
  • elevated blood pressure
  • elevated heart rate
  • hallucinations
  • heart palpitations
  • increased agitation
  • nausea
  • pale skin
  • seizures
  • vomiting

Of course, it is only a minority who seems to suffer from these negative effects but it is a sizable minority. Furthermore, Dr.Anthony Scalzo of Saint Louis University believes that these side effects indicate that Spice and the compounds it contains, affect the cardiovascular system of those who smoke it. We will know more as we research more.

Spice synthetic marijuana long term side effects

Nobody knows.

Spice has not been around long enough for scientists to determine what kind of long term damage users are doing to themselves. What’s in legal buds? A blend of ethnobotanicals and liquid synthetic cannabinoids, which can lead to a very mind altered state. As I have already pointed out in a previous post, the JWH users of today are the guinea pigs for future generations. Let’s leave the last word to John W. Huffman who created JWH-108 (named after his initials) in the 1990’s.

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  1. Sooo yesterday which was Wednesday I just got off probation so im like fuck yeah ima get higher than a bitch . I called my bestfriend and ask her for a weedman number 5 mins later she texts it to me . So I text him we meet up in no time i go home roll my el . The weed was a bit sticky but i didnt think nothing of it so I continue to roll . Spark my el and hit and im like ok then i hit it again and im like ok im feeling weird or high so i hit it again welll thats when my whole body shut down . I begin to real real numb like my whole body then i could feel my heart beating like i was in a race like really beating out my body . Then i started to walk around my apartment back and forth like a zombie i felt like i was bout to die literally . But long story short somebody laced my weed with k2 and i can never trust another soul

  2. my friend smoked fake weed and started rolling and flopping on the floor whinning and wasnt responsive and after it stopped he said he saw demons beating him up and he didnt remeber what happen it was like he was in a whole other world whys that?

  3. I smoked spice a couple times back in college. I remember the specific blend I smoked was called Mad Hatter. I decided to try a bowl from my bong and took a huge hit. I am not entirely certain of what happened afterwords, but the simplest way to describe it would be that I went insane for 20 minutes. I remember at one point looking at reflection in a mirror while a voice that I can only describe as ‘demonic’ would echo in my head. My reflection would warp and shift and I recall being terrified of looking at my own face for some reason. As others have stated, it was like my very soul outside my body and it had been replaced by some sort of evil force. I am not religious and consider myself a skeptic so I am aware that the explanation is almost certainly due to unregulated chemicals sending my brain haywire. But at the time it still felt I was in some sort of limbo in my mind where the devil was alternating mocking me and suggesting things to me. Like I have read others mention, it induced this incredible sense of fear and dread as the voice suggests that I allowed him in and that now I will be like this forever. Another thing I have seen mentioned that I experienced was some vague sensation of “Death”. The voice would suggest self harm and promote violent ideas or thoughts around how life was worthless. I was not going physically crazy or anything. I was just sitting at my desk chair, staring into my reflection with a feeling of being detached from reality.

    This all happened over the course of 20 minutes, afterwords I just laid face down in my bed and tried to block out the negativity. I wasn’t in a panic, but I was very frightened and I tried to keep telling myself that I was just having a bad trip that would go away eventually. After another 15 minutes the voice was gone. My chest felt tight and I was very pale. I spent the rest of the night feeling like a zombie who couldn’t be bothered to even put a thought together. It took a couple days for my head to feel back to normal.

    I am an atheist and I don’t believe in anything like ghosts or demons or evil beings, but after smoking Mad Hatter I finally understood why so many insane people do. Spice made me insane for half an hour where I was certain that I had allowed a demon or the devil itself into my very soul and that he was talking directly to me.

    Nowadays, I think everyone knows that if you smoke spice you are basically asking to die from heart failure or other major health issues and I am glad that I only smoked it once. Whether or not you believe in actual demons, it’s obvious that spice is evil all on its own. But I do sometimes wonder about that time and the relationship between insanity and hearing voices. What was it that was talking to me? My subconscious fears manifesting to the surface due to the drug? Pure insanity that occurs from having your brain becoming disinhibited? The Devil himself? Either way, fuck spice and everything about it.

  4. Im 24 and have been a long term marijuana smoker, a few years at least. About a month ago, my partner and I found a place you could buy the ‘legal stuff’ and tried it. After smoking normal weed for so long and it almost not getting us high anymore, this stuff was officially the new good shit. Before I continue, I don’t really know what it is in the stuff. It is legal to buy, but recommended against smoking and for good reason.

    So at first it was great, we were hooked. There was nothing like the high we got from it. Got a little sick the first time we smoked but thought it was normal. Only got better after that. And we didn’t see anything bad about it, because it’s legal right? Wrong. It only lasted about a week. Continued use of the incense proved to be a big mistake.

    The first thing I noticed was a loss of sensitivity, only small but in a few places. Then full body numbness. I stopped being able to eat because I could no longer feel my mouth and would end up biting myself. Then came the hot and cold sweats. And the nausea. Vomiting. I had such a completely detached mentality from everyone and everything, three weeks had passed before I’d even realised. I started to feel like I was floating, like my body was weightless. I would try to walk and stumble into things, pick things up that would normally be heavy and feel like they weighed nothing. I could hit myself and not feel it, hurt myself by accident and not even know about it. I couldnt feel anything. My head would shut down at random times and I couldn’t move, or speak. I was like a zombie. Sleeping was always a fight, a restless hour here or there. Always waking up feeling like something was wrong. Waking up in a cold sweat. Waking up feeling like I’d forgotten to breathe and started to die without noticing.

    That’s only some, but I can’t concentrate for too long.

    I tried going to the lower dosage of incense. Thought maybe we just overdid it. Still feel exactly the same. I feel like I’m withdrawing all day every day whether I smoke or not. I had to force myself to not buy more. Keep telling myself I never should’ve smoked it in the first place. My body no longer belongs to me. And I’m going to quit the incense and I really hope all of this shit will go away.

    I’m writing here in hopes of helping someone like me. Who might think they won’t get addicted cause they’ve been smoking weed for ages or whatever. Honestly, if you’re going to try it, only try it once. One time, one day, one night, whatever. Just once. Control yourself. Don’t get pulled under by it, because herbal incense is the devil and it will drown you.

    It also makes it so much worse because they don’t know what it will do to you in the long term.
    My one month addiction may end up being enough to do some serious damage, and I’m praying nothing will happen. There are way worse stories out there. But they’re all pretty much the same and end the same as this one.

    It’s a good high until it’s not, and then it’s really not. I will never touch this shit ever again and wouldn’t recommend anyone to smoke it more than a single time!! Better not to at all.

  5. I found a type of marijuana the I know is on report to find. This form of maijuana is a very dangerous substance. It causes your body to stiffen. People who distribute this form of marijuana are cannibals and plan to copy who you are. They expect this marijuana to keep your body paralyzed, so that they can salt you and eat off your body. Get the word out. Talk to your friends. Be careful.

  6. My husband is addicted to spice. He quit drinking about six years ago and started smoking. He started having stomach problems. These problems with his stomach were blamed on dirty water, or food that caused the illness. He became so sick that he lost his job. He continued to smoke. He was diagnosed with pancreatitis. For the last 3 years he has been hospitalized for this. About every 2 weeks. He still not blaming the spice use. Currently we have lost our house, vehicles, and more. He does anything to get spice. I have left in the past but came back. He promises to stop. But lies. He has sold almost everything of value we have left to get spice. But to him it’s not the spice making him sick. He is currently in the hospital because of hurting and spice usage. They say his colon dialated so bad that it caused the hospitalization. The bad thing is he thinks he does not have a problem. Please do not smoke spice it’s a killer.

  7. I ingested a mid grade bud that had been sprayed with chemicals unknowingly. I apologize for my punctuation In advancement as i am into my second day and I’m still high!
    I took 2 very small hits off if a blunt on the evening of January 30th . Almost immediately I started to feel very strange so I went home to calm down I thought I was having a very serious panic attack until the convulsions, vomiting and eventually me losing my consciences. Some how I was able to watch this alien firm in my mind speak with my mouth while another part of me was in this chamber in hell .. that sounds insane right? I agree, I was tortured endlessly and it seemed as if this went on forever , while I was enduring this overwhelming sense if hopelessness and indescribable pain I began to become aware that our Creator was telling me things. Sounds absolutely insane … right? I am quite nervous to be writing this. Even as I write I realize that whatever frightened me so much that first night is at me again it’s just not as…. intense. Know your enemy for the is a great adversary but but seek out your creator with your whole heart.. prepare for the next few months… I have no idea what I just wrote really because my high is intensified at this moment and this is the second day. I’ve never experienced anything like this … I can’t even look back at what I wrote.. i shouldn’t be peaking again .. this is by far the most frightening and bizzare thing to explain.

  8. Can anyone help me with why I’m having nightmares it’s still the one in my family because I’m having fight in my sleep occasionally I have hit my fiance and it’s not good at all I’ve heard of I can’t continue to do what I still think I can lose my family behind this if anyone is having nightmares night terrors night terrors or night fights please tell me what you did to get rid of that after you stop smoking synthetic marijuana I have not smoked synthetic marijuana for 3 weeks so I need to know what’s my next step with the hallucinations of the nightmares please

  9. I am clean 9 months from spice al chem it was the worst thing ever I almost died it took me to loose my freedom I have lost friends it’s not worth it please stop if you do it my prayers are with you u are better than that

  10. I smoked mine Thursday morning around 6 or 7 in the morning it’s now Friday night and I’ve been zoning out since then and can’t stop I’ve been sleeping too much and my stomach is killing me anyone know when all this is gonna stop I don’t feel like I’m being myself I feel like I’m not enjoying anything anymore and I just want it to be over any suggestions

  11. I am not a smoker of any thing but my roommate has always smoked the real stuff, but the only reason I moved in was because she was quitting. She rented the condo that is smoke free. Now she has started smoking skmething she calls Dab she does smoke it in her room but I get a major headache everytime she does it and i am epileptic. What should I do. When I do say something she says I am over reacting.

  12. Hi all. I’m in Australia and I turn 40 this week. I have been a pot smoker since I was 16 and at 35 I discovered synthetic or legal weed over here in oz it came in all sorts of packages it was ideal for me because it wouldnt show in drug tests. My first hit I rolled a huge joint and smoked the shit out of it. Needless to say it blew my head off and made my heart race so hard I thought it was going to explode. I tried all sorts till i found one that would give me the high I was looking for. Then it was made illegal about 18 months of my journey into it. But I found a shop I could still get it from under the counter I would smoke more and more to get the same high I could easily smoke 3-4 grams of it a day or evening. I would wake up ever two hours for it at night. Needed it during the day. When it wouldnt work for me I would get angry. I developed a cough and and anxiety. But still I kept going. I have smoked a minimum of 3 grams of synthetic weed a day. Costing about 50 or more dollars a day for the last 4.5 years and I finally have had enough. All in secret and all still functioning amd holding down a high paying job had to so I could afford that and all still while being a single dad. But after my last partner left me I realised that Im not me when I smoke it and when I stopped for a couple of days I wasnt me either. I have not touched it for 2 months now but the withdrawls are still with me I have always had a good sense about peoples feelings but how I was thinking about how people might have been thinking about me was off I still went out of my way to do things for people lots of things and help others but felt like they hated me when they didnt. I have felt tired, I have craved it, I have head aches, panic attacks, heart palpitations, bad stomach cramping, bad diareah cant even spell it. Foggy mind, I stopped eating cause my partner left kept smoking Ive had like pins and needles itching all over my body, post nasal drip, feeling of worms in my head. It was really hard and didn’t know if I could get past everything but after 2 months off it now and eating properly and exercising and coming out about it and speaking with my mum about it and I have no one where I live my family live about 800 miles away from me so being alone wad another reason to keep going And smoking but I have overcome that too. Still very much alone but Im here. The stomach has returned to normal eating well slowly putting weight back on, still get random head aches and feel tired but if I sleep well thats not so bad. The dreams I get now feel so real still bad ones too. But I feel like a person Im functioning Im preparing meals Im waking up and exercising I still get the pins and needles itch when I get hot. I still get a panic attack or two but they have subsided a lot. Im getting out and about and seeing friends more a lot more. I used to do a lot of things with my ex so the friends went away for a bit. But they were still there for me like true friends are. I dont think I have wrecked my mind but I know it’s not quite right I dont feel as smart as I once was like on marijuana I could still think and learn I was a functional smoker. But I have been trying hard to retrain my mind and learn more stuff in the hope it sticks. I look back now and think 4.5 nearly 5 years of a clouded hell I put myself through and at times I genuinely broke down thinking I had destroyed my life and any future I had if I couldn’t beat this. I get very impatient and angry still. So angry. So impatient. I’ve made a promise to myself to stay as clear as possible. I know I have an addictive personality. And to top it off when I would see friends who had natural weed and I had no synthetics I would smoke nearly all theirs with no affects. It was very sad. I wasn’t happy with myself while I was on that stuff I knew my performance was lacking in areas of my life because of it but I couldn’t stop. 2 months now clean and still struggle with the thought of going to that shop to pick up more but I remember my promise to me and stay away from it. If I can go that long without it I know I can do it. You might say I smoked weak arse shit over here. But I even ordered all your stuff Scooby Snax Mr Nice Guy and some others online. I was at the height of my addiction and a bit disappointed with it at the time resorting back to the little shop where I got it under the counter. I know all of this is scattered as sometimes my thoughts are but I’m writing from the heart and my mind as I go. I still hope I have done no permanent damage to myself. I wish you all the best and please keep clear of synthetics

  13. Vna did your headaches just stop by itself because I have been suffering for 2years now with rising pressure every day and dizziness every time I get up. I’m going to 2 neurologist that seem to can’t find out the problem and I can’t work or anything, if anyone has had this problem what did you do to help the issue

  14. My roommates boyfriend allured me into poisoning myself with a spice-like substance. I’m still suffering from excruciating side effects; mainly heart palpitations and paranoia.

  15. My bf is on probation and wanted me to try spice with him I’m more of a weed smoker and never wanted to however I did . It got me high way faster but the high was not the same as weed weed was more chilax where as ” fucking crazy ” insence or spice was different it’s like I would become numb and frozen in thought unable to even conversation I would then become very tired and fatigue I started getting migraine and felt nausea once I didn’t vomit however which was good . My bf on the other hand omg !!! I don’t like it the other night he was having a bad ass trip! He was talking bubbles I couldn’t even make out what the hell he was saying and he had this ugly face in like a mad face it was kind of scary a bit ! He was trying to go smoke out side my apt with only a shirt on and no underwear or pants he didn’t know he was naked on the bottoms half and it’s like he didn’t care . He kept falling asleep standing up and or sitting up and was scratching himself like crazy even scratching his back and chest against the wall he just kept looking at me blank like wth
    The next day he didn’t even know what he had done or how he had been . Idk I didn’t like it . It’s some powerful stuff I know he smile once without me and he vomited . Today we finished our bag and no more so with drawls here we come
    I pray he handles well I hate this I rather smoke weed it’s natural from Mother Earth meant for us not this fake shit

  16. My husband has struggled with substance abuse since before we met. He has been clean for 4months(I think) until this weekend. He finally got to go for a drive by himself and when he came back I noticed the swaying while he thinks he’s being still, the vomiting, the dry mouth, slurred speech, the lack of ability to have emotion. He’s come home this week stoned and denies doing anything. I’m at a loss. We have 3 children and its Christmas time. I’m afraid we will be in a shelter bynext week. I’ve tried kicking him out in the past but he refuses. What can or should I do?

  17. Hello, 3.5 years ago i was given what i thought was weed but it wasnt it was synthetic. I thought i was in HELL. I passed out. I havent been the same since constantly had chest pains. WORSE chest pains that happen daily, hourly.. I just recelently had a baby and a month after i got horrible head pain and had to gave emergency surgery for a MASSIVE arachnoid cyst. And nust recently (6 months later) had to have another. And i trult believe its from that. Everyone schedule a mri!!!!!!!

  18. Well just last night me and my sister bought some what we thought was weed (gas) but was really (fake weed) and it really messed me up. Im not a smoker but I have in the past only a handful of times. So I’ve been stressing and my sister said you should smoke to clear your mind but little did I know after and not even finishing this stuff I will experience the worst thing in life. So after the first pull I should have stopped because I notice a really bad taste and after about the fourth pull I’m feeling the normal feel of high but at the same time I told her something is wrong with the week and seconds after saying that it all went down hill for me. I told my sister to just get me in my house up stairs to my bed so she did. I looked at my 9 month old baby girl laying asleep in my bed thinking that will be my last time looking at her. So I lay across my bed and I ask my sister can weed kill you then I told her a run cold water in my tub. She helps me undress and puts me in the tub as my heart pounding and my chest tighting up on me I felt in my head I was a crazy person. As I sit in my tub I start to feel better BUT only for a very short time….I get out my tub thinking I’m better and my mind starts to leave me and I can feel it happening but could not do anything to control it. I then knew I would have to wake my mom up and seek medical help so I tell my sister to get me some clothes because I didn’t want anyone to see me naked and losing my mind at the same time but everything happened so fast again my sister started freaking out not knowing what was wrong with me and there I was going down my stairs with no clothes on. I get halve way down my stairs and I started screaming for my mom like a crazy person. My sister ran back up stairs to my mom room crying telling her to come get me and I still standing on the stairs screaming for my mom with every MOM come out my mouth I got louder and louder because something was telling me I was going to die that night and those were my last minutes. My mom ran to me a grad my mom still screaming then she begins to push me and my sister in fear screaming what we got hold of. She runs back to her phone to call 911 I make my way back up the stairs and made it to my mom room I run to her telling her mom I’m going to die tonight which I truly believed because my mouth got really dry I kept trying to swallow but couldn’t because I had no saliva at at all in my mouth and I thought for a minute I was going to swallow my tongue or choke on the thick mucus that was forming in the very back of my throat. As all of this is happening I’m still telling my mom and sister that I love them I was dying and I kept telling my mom I was sorry because I thought I was going to make my mom experience losing a child and all I could do is call on the Lord at the same time and telling the Lord I was sorry and to forgive me for everything as I was seeing my own grave. Ppl am here you tell you PLEASE PLEASE DONT USE THIS STUFF it’s the devil and it will kill I just feel like I have got a second chance at life and to be a mother to my babies and I now look at life so different and I cherish my life a lot more!!

  19. Just curious…..did anyone have extreme episodes of agitation? I believe my son is using “fake weed” and I’ve been told that a side effect can be agitation. He seems to go from one extreme to the other in a matter of seconds. Screaming, ranting, fanatical behavior. Sometimes scary!

  20. I know im kind of late but i once smoked k2 aboyt a year ago and ever since i have this feeling 247 like somethings crawling on my like bugs or something buh nothings ever there. Was just wondering if this might be from the k2

  21. Me and my hubby were hard on fake bake…We would smoke over 30gs a day never had the stuff from the gas stations just the real deal from the smoke shops the most potent levels available. Started off with Soul Sense. State started slowly out lawing the fale bake. But of course smoke shops were banking on it so they’d sale it under the radar! C.R.E.A.M. right? Well there were several accounts where id black out fall asleep standing up. One time I dove off 5 cement steps into the concrete I was hallucinating and thought I was diving into a pool. Luckly I didnt die because like I said we were heavy fake bake smokers at first it was potent and all it would take was one bowl then it took 2 then 3 we grew immune to the high since we’d smoke so much. Everytime I hit the bong id immediately get sick vomiting diarrhea but the high was so damn good I didnt care. If I smoked Id get sick if I didnt smoke Id get sick…..might as well be high as shit if Ima be sick anyway I go right? Well eventually I said enough is enough my hubby started to cough up blood….we got off the fake bake. It was hard but we did it together. Long story short my hubby has been coughing up blood lately idk if the fake has anything to do with it but I do recall before we stopped smoking he was coughing up blood. TO ANYONE OUT THERE READING THIS DONT FUCK WITH IT….ITS NOT WORTH IT the smell the taste ugh I wanna vomit just thinking about it.

  22. Hi there for monthsniv been looking for some comments on spice abuse, my partner has now been smoking it for over a year now he started with sweet leaf obliteration and now smokes happy joker. Before he started smoking this he was a heavy weed smoker which made him paranoid but normal, since smoking spice I mean 6 1gm a day a £50 a day habit he has lost over 3 stone he’s extremely paranoid he some times things he can hear voices he’s breathing has become scary he can not sleep I mean an hour a night , when he doesn’t have it he becomes a monster snappy hot sweaty iratable can’t breath weak and lifeless, please believe me when I tell you DO NOT TOUCH THE STUFF its highly addictive and it destroys the person you once were , he’s sold nearly every thing worth of value too buy the stuff and now he’s so addicted we need serious professional help to get him off it in a save way he can not go cold Turkey or he will suffer so badly . please stay away from this poissen i don’t no how it become able to buy in your local shop . I lost the man I fell in love with due to this stuff

  23. I smoked synthetic weed about a month ago and now any time I smoke
    Regular weed I feel like I’m on spice. Am I the only one, is there alteritives like dabs or oil I won’t get the side effects from Please help!

  24. Hi ma name is jin..I been smooking marijuana for 2 yrs ..on first it seems grt….bt lately it started affecting ma mind….the real problm cause on ma life was feeling lonely..only thinking about enjoying life..ma story begins frm here….I jst pased out ma high school and wanted to take a brk fr one nxt yr’bcoz I was intrsted on becoming doctor.ma family didnt force me so I took a brk fr one year..afte dat ma lifelihood was only marijuana I was addicted to it…one day it happened so …aftr smoking marijuana I was watching lucy movie..the movie affect ma mind n I went deep thought on it dat like I can’t also use ma 100 capacity of brain ,I went deep on the thought suddenly I got panic on ma brain.I had stop thinking,can’t imagine anything n ma feeling wr lost..it feel like someone is inside on me..ma personality,courage,expression wr all lost..it was the worst of worst feeling…I tried to search on net about diz problm something similar to deppresion n derealization..I can’t believe maself like something diz would happened to meh…….Bt I kept on fighting although I cnt think bt I still try to convience maself it jst a little glitch ..I kept on fighting keeping dats on mind dat god hve punished me fr the wrong thing dat I hve done….I m still facing diz prblm its been 1 n half yrs since nw bt I m still fighting n going on ….although I m facing diz prblm bt I m fighting myself to the end of it to get ma heart n mind back on track..I dont want to go to a phshycholigal although I want to go…Bta heart kept on saying god is thr n u wll v alright…hope so I wll v alright god bless me n those wo ever r facing the same prblms..

  25. This message is for Sarah and her family. Please read…. I am going to share this with you and I really hope and with prayer that you do as I am asking. I am only sharing this cure with you and to those that will understand and believe me. It sounds to me like you are all at the end of the rope sort of speak. You are desperate to quit but the addiction is there and it is embedded into your brain as well as your body. Sarah? I know that you are the one in the family that has the level head. Do this as I ask and as I suggest. Go and buy “Figi Water”. You can find this water in most every grocery store. Next, go to the produce section and purchase “organic” lemons. Trust me OK? You will need to buy as many as you can afford and this meaning the Figi water as well. What you need to do is to take a bottle of Figi water, pour it into a glass, squeeze the organic lemon juice into this water. No, I am not telling you to make lemonade! Drink this water with the organic lemon juices squeezed and mixed. This cured my addiction in a matter of almost 2 weeks.. My thought process was better. The night sweats became less frequent. The dizziness, headaches, body aches and all that you spoke of slowly subsided. Yes, Sarah, you are right this chemical synthetic nightmare is real and I just hope and pray that you heed my advice. I am real, I speak the truths and I will pray for you, your husband and your family. You need a good friend and you need some good advise. All I can say Sarah is this worked for me. How I came across this is not relevant but I am so glad that I can share. Please be safe, try and convince yourself and your husband that this stranger here posting has overcome this terrible chemical dependency and has cured himself and is testimony to everyone that this remedy does work! Please be in touch here as I will also be monitoring. You all need a friend. You all need some help. Most of all you cry for a cure. God bless you all and this great planet. Bob

  26. I figured i would give an update on our condition. It’s only been a few hours since i put up the other post. As for me. Right now I only sleep 30-45 min at a time. I am very jittery. From head to toe my body is numb. I can feel but my skin feels like I just got out out a cold pool. Hot and cold flashes. I lean more on the cold side. Sweats dizziness and a heavyness on my shoulders. Now let me just say this has never happened before. I have had reactions yes. Not like this. I feel like I did a huge line of meth and I hate the stuff. I have been a user of all different sorts of drugs in my life and I will be 35 soon. 8 years I have smoked this stuff. Thus is the first time I had a reaction that hasn’t gone away yet. I am on day 4. As for my husband. He is WAY worse. He hasn’t slept in 2 days, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, sweats, chills, headache, numbness, dizziness. There are more. We also smoked weed everyday habitually. About a quarter a day. Now my husband has an extremely addictive personality so when ha has it thats all he does. Weed doesn’t work anymore. When i had him commited for the 3rd time the docs told him the incense attaches to the dopamine receptors in your brain tthename way pot does. Thats why we cant get high. The incense is blocking the weed. We almost divorced and i was 7 months pregnant. He stayed gone for 6 months and thats when it got banned again. I thought great we are free. We spent all our noney on this stuff back then and my kids suffered because we are weak. 2 years later we still cant get high on the good weed. You know the $120 a quarter good stuff. I figured its been a long time it wont hurt to let him get one off the internet. WRONG!!!!!! That ran out and guess what? Why am I sooooo stupid with this stuff? No other drug ever did to me like this one. Back to him. So at the ebd of February he ordered a 20g then 4 days later orders a 30 then a 50. Now we are at 100g. All that git smoked within 3 wks or so. Guess what? He ordered another 20g. That was Friday. The day before our symptoms started. So tomorrow i should get it but now i dont want it. Neither does my husband. However, because ww spent money on it we are just out that. At this point i don’t want to throw it away because the money i spent, but i don’t want to smoke it either. My husband will smoke it inspite his synptoms. He is a bad unmedicated bipolar has tinitus, back pain, knee pain bad migraines and more. He had all that before just to say. Im hoping even if just one person decides not to try from reading these then its worth posting. Also, i saw a post where someone asked about pregnancy. DON’T!!! I found out i was pregnant with my 3rd in March of 2013 and we were in heavy. I tried but couldn’t. Now my son is healthy only thanks tested. I dont know what this stuff does to unborn babies. I got lucky. Thank you God! However, we are currently on a waiting list to have my son tested for a form of autism. Now he is smart on lots of stuff. You wouldnt have any reason to think otherwise. We are having him tested due to him physically harming his self. I mean the boy will throw his head, mostly forehead, onto what ever hard surface he can find. That’s not all but was what concerned the doctor. She doesn’t know I used when i was pregnant. Now i don’t know if incense was the cause for this. I know with my 2 oldest I had no problems. When i just smoked weed and my daughter is super smart. Over her age. My youngest got the incense. He has no speech hardly. Only a couple words which can be normal for a 2 1/2 year old. Please dont touch this stuff. Evil!!!!

  27. My husband and I have smoked all the different kinds that were coming out when k2 first started getting big. Spice, incense, potpouri, satchels etc. You name it, we smoked it. That was about 7 years ago. We were constant users. 3 or more grams a day. Everyday. It took a toll after awhile on my husband. I had to commit him even. About 2 years or so when they regulated missouri and you couldnt buy it anymore we were finally free of it. Now u can get it online and he figured out how to order it. He ordered i want to say a 30 gram bag. Then a 50. I cant get him to lay off. I smoked too but not as much. All that was gone in 10 days. Now he is in bad shape. Every symptom or side affect you listed he has. As for me. My whole body is numb head to toe and shaky. I can only assume we are withdrawling. I am done with the stuff but cant say for sure for him. How do I help these symptoms we are experiencing and make them go away?

  28. OK I have smoked spice for about seven years was really addicted to the mind altering drug, finally I decided to quit a month ago now I have kidney trouble at times wich I figured would happen bc in the seven years I had many kidney stones. But a question that bothers me the most is my sperm count wondering if it could have some way affected it where I couldn’t have kids I don’t know if spice has any affect on tht but I really need to know if it affects me long term because I want kids. Thanks and spice sucks BTW

  29. I smoked weed before synthetic weed. I can say stopping was the best thing for me after 4 years of using it. It completely ruined my life. It was my whole life I couldn’t do anything without it. I was always high and it became normal to me and because I could still work and go to uni I was in denial. My last straw was when I last smoked it. I had chest pains and I smoked it thinking I would be fine and I honestly felt like I was fighting for my life. I was shaking, my heart was beating so fast. I felt like I was having a heart attack. I really fault there was no other option for me apart from dying. I was sick and washed my face and finally felt a little bit better. I was completely shaken up. That was my final straw. My life is worth way more than a 10 pound bag of spice. I am studying medicine at uni and working a good job and I have stopped smoking it and it was the best choice of my life. It is strange to be without it because it was the first thing I smoked in the morning and the last at night. But I will adjust and change my life for the better. If your thinking about trying it or you have just started and not addicted yet, please forget it. It will ruin you after a certain amount of time and make you in denial. I will post after one week of not smoking it and give another update. I regret the first time I ever smoked it.

  30. Has anyone ever had there spouse do as mine get addicited to this crap then porn then have an internet affair and leave there wife of 23 years. Was told they have psychosis dont think they need medicine. Just keep smoking this crap and drink alcohol . Now thinks he is starting a new life at 50. To look at him dont look like himself aged over the past year. Hes been gone now living with his girlfriend he brought to our home town. Friends and family say its all do smoking this spice he has smoking it for 3years but heavy last year and half.. He was smoking at least 2 to 3 packages night or every other night then took xanax and was drinking vodka right out of the bottle. My question will he ever stop. If he does will his mind ever be as it was. The kind loving person he was. He had turned into this hateful name calling man obsessed with porn. I pr a y for my husband. I worry his addiction and usage have affected his mind to no return. With psychosis and not going to dr to get off spice and xanax and get on something for his medical condition is he going to be messed up for life. Am I fooling myself ?….please if you of you have any thoughts please share with me. I love my husband but is his mind gone forever??

  31. Almost 8 years later.. I started smoking Madhatter (brand of spice) when I was 13. I wasn’t able to get ahold of marijuana but I knew a guy that would buy spice for me. I absolutely loved it and smoked a 3 gram bag everyday for over a year with and I made sure to never miss a day. I didn’t have bad side effects then, vomited and passed out a couple times but that was it. I believe it has done more long term damage. I almost died once from very low blood pressure. My chest gets these sharp pains as if it were a heart attack. I’ve been to the doctors and they’ve never been able to figure out what was wrong. I never told them what I use to do either. Also my memory doesn’t seem right. I work as a diesel mechanic and I find myself taking tools to the wrong end of the shop, forgetting to grab keys when I go to pull a truck in, forgetting where I parked my car, I’ll drive to one end of the town and realize the store I wanted to go to was just a couple miles from where I started. Anyone else having these problems or heard of incense causing this?

  32. My husband who just turned 50 in May started smoking this CRAP and now after 23 years we are separated and he wants a divorce. Oh God where do I began with this evil satan crap that was legal to buy. Still can if they have connections. The money is one thing. Last June /July he spent $900.00 out of our savings alone. He started smoking this few years ago but last couple years it totally consumed him. It was buying this 1 to 2 times weekly to buying it almost daily. Now when he bought it he would get 3 packages at atime it was cheaper. My husband was the most kind Loving person. He had anxiety problems and smoked marijuana since I knew him. This crap turned him into a person I didnt know. He worked every day. He would come home pissed about the way his (friend) his boss wasnt doing things the way he thought it should be done. To my shock he started calling Corporate office and reporting to them of his thoughts. At home as when I first came in we ate he was ok. He had already smoked some. Then he would go to garage where he remained the rest of evening. I never seen anything as what I seen as I went to garage for different reasons there he stood in side door swaying back and forth eyes closed and drolling. Or sitting in a chair passed out mouth all drawn down drolling . I would say anything he would start calling me names. We never fought before he started this crap. Then started being on phone to my surprise he was on Facebook talking to some women in a different state. My husband was having an internet affair. His addiction was out of control. Went through and I honestly believe he wanted to stop at times. I had got where I only put in part of my check in bank. He knew he had bank card also he would please baby just one more time I am trying to quit. I would either sit and cry or I would be in bed crying and praying. Then one day I received a call from alarm company our house alarm was going. They called police to my surprise when I got here there in garage stood my husband with a blank look and unable to respond to any questions. Police helped me get him into the car. Took him to hospital he couldnt walk or talk wheeled him in they ran test came up with he had a episode of psychosis. Said he needed to see a psychiatrist. Brought him home. Got him into house as he was walking he would just stop and just stand i had to keep saying holding his hand come on. Then he was hungry set food in front of him and he just sat there. I had to feed him tell to swallow. Was off work all week with him because he would get up walk into kithchen to get a drink and just stop and be frozen I would have to help back to chair. He was off two weeks then went back yo work . I worried and prayed all day for him. We never yellled or had any major arguments all the years we had been together. Now because of this crap we yelled and at one point I locked door from garage to house because he was so messed up and was going to go meet his supplier one night but I wouldnt let him have his keys. Well next thing that happened sent me scared over the top. He said give me some money. I told him you are not going anywhere he said I m not. At thst time a black truck pulled up in our drive he said hurry give me the money. She actually brought it to him.He acted like it was like he had just ordered a pizza. The man I knew and was married to would never done that. Then one Sat in the summer there was sitting in garage around 230 in evening in his white briefs and socks standing with the big garage door open smoking a cigarette. Then all at once he went running down the road I stood there then went out to see what I couldnt believe. I yelled at him what are you doing he said getting this dog before it gets ran over. Finally I yelled just get back in here before someone calls police you being out here in your underware. Then one night I heard yelling I went out to garage (his new home) to see what was going on. There he was getting ready to physically fight the next door neighbor who pissed him off because at 1130 at night the neighbor pulled into our drive to turn around because he lived with his mother and he parked in street. Thank God the other brother was there to pull them apart. His brother came over to do some work for us couple times i had either fixed lunch or ordered pizza and out of the blue he would just leave. His brother was looking at me I knew exactly where he ran to he hsd ran out of crap and had to go get more. On weekends I hated if he hadnt stoped by on friday to pick up his crap he was up crack of dawn drank his coffee and was in shower and ready to be out door by 930 where he bought opened at 10. We used to enjoy on Sat nights going with family and eating out. Then it got to us going then out of blue we sat down then he turned into a hateful pised off person who finally would go sit in car until I ate and returned to car. Trying to make excuses oh he wasnt feeling good etc…Truth was he got in there remembered he was almost out of thst crap and it was getting late. So i would hurry eat part of my food bring what he had ordeed home. Because we had to hurry and get more crap to last all night.I miss the man I married we was best friends. He moved out few months ago because I didn’t understand him and he wanted to talk to his friend he meet on internet. Before he had moved out one day in march God gave him a chance and he came in from garage and said he was sorry for everything. The drugs talking to the women he didnt why he hsd done those things. I told him because he had let the devil take him over. He started shaking and crying and said he felt something like he was haveing a heart attack. What I seen was evil sprits leaving his body. He and I reconnected that day n our Love was better and stronger than it had been for years. Him thanking God for leting him get off that crap and he wanted to sue the people who made it and the people he bought it from. He totalling stopped his internt affair was so sorry. Things were so great I thanked God. Then 2nd week of May he started I am going to have a midlife crisis he was turning 50. Then I started smelling that sick sweet order again. I would ask are you smoking that crap again. He said just a little. Then I found alcohol I said you drinking also. He said some just need to escape reality and dont want you piseed off me smoking again so that helps. Then found out he hsd went to Dr got xanax. So now he was smoking crap drinking and taking Xanax. Well becauseI didnt understand him he returned talking to his internet girlfriend. Yescshe knew he was married. Next thing I know June 6 he was flying out to be with her she bought and sent him a plane ticket. So here he is messed up from smoking 2 to 3 packages of spice a day now drinking vodka straight having been told months earlier he had psychosis and needed to see a psychiatrist. That he refused to see. Left to go be with some internet whore who kept on sending him crap all along. He was there for couple weeks sending me text I am freaking out what did I do I want to come home etc. Finally he returned only for few weeks still messed up on something. He was fuctional to work but he was not my husband he tried to be who was but it was like when you looked into his eyes there was nobody there. After his return his drinking was worse we never went anywhere he still stayed in garage alot. Back into his zombie like state most of the time. Then fews later after telling the night before he was trying and how much he loved me and was grateful that I forgave him for his affair making love and holding me. The next day he was at lunch and he got on his phone and Facebook this internet girlfriend asked her to marry him. Somebody I knew seen it called me at work i dont do Facebook. I called him said what did you just do? He said very serious I dont know why I did that. I took it off she didnt see it. Baby please dont get mad I am sorry I don’t know why I did that. That evening he showed me he took her off. Then next day he called me all morning you ok we ok. Then found out they just changed names. Oh when he went there this devil women whom I texted and told my husband has psychosis and was addicted to k2 she didnt care. She posted there picture next morning after she slept with my husband. So now hes moved out rented a house she flew him out there to drive her and her cats out here to live with my husband. His mother just thinks he just ready for a change. I know this man I know this k2 has messed him up so bad it will be by the grace of God he survives. This satan worshipping women he is now with is into same crap. He calls when hes himself its so heartbreaking but I dont know what else to do. He has drained our savings he wants divorce only to get his part of money to have to buy more crap. I go to work come home and set in disbelief of what has happened all due to this spice crap. He has spent thousands of dollars on this crap thousands of dollars. It is so sad my husband had young looking face now its thin and old looking. If you are thinking of smoking this let me tell you it is exactly what the devil wants because it will turn you into someone you dont know you will loose your family and home just because you have no idea of why or what you are doing. I asked my husband he says I don’t know something just told me to. I Love my husband and pray for his safety and a miracle that one day he will stop smoking that spice before it does anything else to him physically and mentally.

  33. I am going to be as serious as I can possibly be here. I can honestly tell everyone here that this synthetic potpourri is a deadly thing to be smoking. It is not synthetic at all. In fact it is just another chemical that is dangerous to smoke. Yes, the out-of-body experience, the feeling of impending doom, the heart rapidly going so fast, the shakes, trembling, the feeling of despair is all this sh!t is about. I know first hand all about htis. The idiots that sell it, get caught, they then find another chemical that is the same or even stronger and they package it. They could give a sh!t less if you died. All they care about is the money and only a fool will pay for this stuff. If you feel like you need to get high etc. screw the law and buy some real marijuana. This will all be legal in 5 years anyway. The U.S. government has been dumbbing you all up here by turning their heads on this. All these so-called “Head Shops”, “Just Smoke” selling assholes are run by idiots that could care less if you or a loved one dies. They are covered by disclaimers on the package. So, in the long run…Tell them to kiss off and go and buy the real stuff. The real stuff has not killed anyone like this so-called synthetic potpourri has. I speak the truths here and I will until someone try’s to stop me. Good luck on your decision to stop smoking this chemical. You will be glad you did. No more, waking up and gagging, loss of weight, can’t sleep, can’t eat. It literally is killing your organs! A good thing to do is eat, drink a lot….I mean a lot of liquids and force yourself to eat. I even know that this sh!t will send you to the hospital with a intestinal problem that will require surgery. I know…it did this to me! Be smart and just smoke the real deal.

  34. This drug is poison. I tried it three times and it significantly damaged my brain. I do not recommend this drug at all. It will kill you and your brain. It’s laced with dangerous chemicals that haven’t even been tested on human beings. I hate this stupid drug. It has affected a lot of people in a negative way and it affected me too. Please everyone reading this stay away from synthetic marijuana or spice!!!!

  35. I was spiked with spice , someone rolled it into s tobacco roll up and I didn’t know there was anything in it , I got up then ten mins later I was shaking Andy heart started racing very fast … I couldn’t breath properly felt like I was having a heart attack …. I was rushed into hospital put on a drip I was very scared told my friend to tell my mum I love her . Never been so scared in my whole entire life . …. Anyone that takes this drug is crazy I will always be care ful and make sure I know whoever I’m taking a roll up from in future . As I don’t want to go through that experience again

  36. I think its bad to smoke anything but if i had my choice it would jave to be weed i couldnt deal with the nausea and withdrawls but each is on

  37. My daughter is in hospital her MInD is gone they say. Spice and method were found on hr. Will she pull out of this mind gone? Also could the làdy who got her own this stuff is it possible she brain washed her?

  38. Hey good afternoon my ne is mike i have a question it also regards me and my experience with the synthetic drug im 28 years old starting smoking spice 5 years ago while i was on federal probation i had been smoking marihuana since i was 15 so i left that alone soo 23 to 28 i was smoking k2 ive been clean for 6 months currently i the process of getting my license back but wat i am asking today is where would be a gd place for me to checkmyself for the damages i really endured to my body i have pains my nervous system is shot im really feeling antcy all the time of afraid of having heartattacks soo i guess this is question 2 is a heartattack defintly from smoking k2

  39. Not that I have ever been a huge drug user in my life, but I have had 1 experience with it back in 2013 and I feel it has ruined me forever! I was drinking beer with a “friend” and he had some weed. I have smoked maybe 6 times my whole life and I am 38. Well needless to say I totally flipped out. I was driving, and I remember I felt like I was just going crazy! I heard the radio was and it seemed to be repeating the same lyrics over and over. Everything was in slow motion, I got lost on roads I knew. I called my brother to come find me to help but I was to scared to stop the car I thought my friend wanted to kill me and take my car. I thought he bugged my phone too I had , major paranoia. I ended up finding my way back to town and drove us to the police station I went in and I was telling the cops he laced the weed and I wanted him arrested. My parents showed up there after 10 minutes and I thought they were all in on a conspiracy with the cops and my “friend” against me. It was a bad trip and I have never done any hard drugs before ever in my life. The cops let me go with my parents and we went to the hospital for drug testing and when the results came back it was all negative! That is when the doc said it was most likely synthetic. I got messed up bad from 1 time!! For the next 2 years after I have suffered major anxiety, clinical depression and a lot of other issues. I hated to be around anybody including my kids and family . I am finally starting to feel normal, but I still feel a lot of what I am now us because of what I did. I am not very judgmental, and impatient, I still have anxiety but not so bad anymore, I would still rather be home alone then to be out in public or around people. And I used to love to be around people and I was the life of the party!! Be warned this is from 1 time trying it! Never again and I feel I still suffer today from it.

  40. I have smoked synthetic marijuana a few times,didn’t care for it. I would only take one hit because I hardly ever smoke regular marijuana and when I do it only takes one hit for me. So other people that I know who smoke this stuff say that the high only last twenty to thirty minutes. But when I smoke it, its more like a few hours and that from only one hit. Anyways I think that its a really nasty feeling,gives me anxiety,makes my heart beat fast,headaches,and also gives me heartburn.. So I never ever will be trying it again!! Other people that I know who smoke it everyday and all day long act stupid,they can’t remember stuff,start trembling,can hardly talk,walk around like zombies,and have had seizures. And I have also had a friend who died from the result of smoking synthetic. She started out having bad headaches and then bleeding in her brain that caused her to have a stroke and a seizure. She didn’t die right away but couldn’t breath on her own and had to have a tube put in her throaght to help her breath. A few months later the tube became clogged and she couldn’t breath so she panicked and killed herself by ripping the tube out of her neck! What was so terrible about it was that she was going to have the tube removed the next day to maybe be able to breath on her own..

  41. smoked it the day before yesterday couldn’t eat the day after I didn’t wanna eat keep throwing up everything that whent in and felt like dieing I did not like the feelings any one who hasn’t tryed it don’t because u will never wanna try it again trust me and I’m 14yrs old and weed needs to be legal peo died because of it. if anyone else thinks it should be legal in all states comment (yess)and those bags that say climax are still sold in stores today so if anyone wants that climax to stop it ain’t as soon as weed gets legal .

  42. Most werst thing av ever had in my life felt like the devil was inside me horrible experience never again werst than a real drug by far

  43. I had been smoking it 2-3 times a week for a month. I have stopped. I am getting random panic attacks at night, restless nights, waking up earlier than usual, decreased energy.. I hope this wont be long term.

  44. i have been smoking spice for about 5 years and have had no problem untill lately i have beed using the bathroom alot and i feel like i have a tpe worm or something does any one have thesew symtoms please contact me if so i thank this i s some kind of chemical war fare any one else agree contact me

  45. Yesterday I smoked weed after quitting it for 2 months don’t know exactly it was weed or spice because I bought it in the name of weed and after 10 mins of smoking I was left helpless my heartbeat was never like this even if I ran for 35 mins and I was sweating like hell ,it was like the area where I was sitting got completely wet along with my all clothes even my underpants and my vision got very very low and had to call a ambulance after half and hour as I was helpless please suggest what was it wot it can led to

  46. I urge anyone considering or anyone that continues to use to stop asap! My friend gave me 2 tokes before an acoustic gig, he smokes it a lot but said it would be like weed. I am a weed smoker & like a drink with friends. My worst nightmare happened. I had a seizure & was going in & out of consciousness. I didn’t recognise my friends & thought them as well as the paramedics were put to kill me. I screamed & ran & nearly killed myself by running out onto the road. This is severe stuff. I smoked this 2 days ago (extremely small amount) & am still horrified by what I went through & those around me. psychosis, hallucinations, seizures & nearly a cardiac arrest. This is proper evil.

  47. Like Liz said, if you ever planted on doing this spice stuff, you need close ppl to do it with you so yall can help each other out in case yall too high on it. This shit can make you paranoid to death if doing it alone & especially shoutout to those who having trust issues that they enjoy get high alone, this shit not for you man, its EVIL if you on it all by yourself!

  48. This sh*t is pure EVIL, I started it all during my unemployment time when I cant afford a new MJ license & 2 8th of buds per week, 20 bucks for 4 grams of some floaty material without a license is too good of a deal, thinking I’ll just smoke it during this time & gonna switch back to the real deal later without anything happen, I did research about this stuff & decided its not that harmful if I smoke moderatedly but I was kinda wrong. I’ve been with 4 bags of Scooby Snax, 1 bag of Bomb Marley & 2 bags of 7H Hydro, tried with bong, joint, pipe, dry bong & blunt (bong seem hit you hardest) for like 2 months or so. I blame it on the random potent of different bags & the way they blend it (which I actually tested with 4 Scooby bags that had different smell, flavor & potent). Up til now, 4 bags of Scooby was potent as some good hybrid strains, got me munchies, sleepy, happy, excited. The Bomb Marley was less potent than Scooby but still similar to a real-weed-high. The first bag of 7H was cool, just a bit more potent than Scooby, no big deal. At the second bag of 7H (prolly my last bag of this crap, gotta get me a MJ license & start back the real sh*t), first time I rolled a spliff at around 12 a.m – 1 p.m (with tobacco in it obviously), blaze it & driving around with my music loud, feeling good, just a normal high as usual.
    The first evil trip happened from 3 – 6 p.m, I pack a little bowl (size of a pinky nail), took a rip from my homemade waterbottle bong, at the moment I was just started to watch a movie then all of a sudden I feel the stuff hit me in the face, though I cant handle this sh*t & need a lay back, I left my computer desk still having the computer running, hardly made my way to the bed (5 ft away maybe), just like 5 second after I laid on bed, the sh*t hit me again, suddenly I started to see weird sh*t (maybe I was blacked out during that time or maybe not cause it was more of a half reality half tripping), I started to see myself being every single being in the universe (sounds dumb but for real), felt like I had an overwhelming trip to hell & came back, I tried to wake myself up couple times but the sh*t seem to heavy it hit me right back with the trip again every time, then my vision blurred, things turned to sh*t tons of colors in a bad way (sort of a wicked acid trip where sh*t all dark & twisted), then I woke up feeling like the only person left in the universe, felt like everything else was a lie, the planets, the space, gods, buddhas, human, alien, nothing made sense even though I can control myself there & still be able to hear car noise from the street nextdoor. Then I can hear my neighbor calling me, knocking on my door, I though he was DEVIL at the moment, I smashed my bong to the ground, grab a knife, swing it around the room talking to some sort of demon, cursing him & tell him to show his face & fight me, then the f*cking 7H sh*t hit me back again, made me feel like I either have to cut myself to death to fight back the reality of demon, or open the door, let him in, accept the reality ruled by devil or some sh*t (I’m originally Aitheist so I cant recall helps from any type of gods or praying like other ppl would do), I was constantly yelling at him asking for my name & what year this is to double check reality, after like 5 mins later I burned 2 – 3 cigarrets & gulping heavy dose coffee to calm myself down (tried poke my leg with a pen to make sure Im not dreaming but the stuff to strong, the trip still so real) then I got a phone call, I answered shortly & hanged it up beore the other person would say anything else, thinking its still the devil doing all this stuff, then like 5 mins later when people can get me out of my room, I feel normal again, guess the high just wore off, I went eating & came back later for another hit thinking I was too stressed out that I saw sh*t, honestly though that was an interesting experience & wanna re-check if the stuff I smoked was that evil.
    At the second trip, its from 9 pm – 11:30 pm, I was sitting in my computer desk with a full tummy, calmed mentality & sh*t. I took another hit from my bong (same amount), sh*t hit me again, I went to my bed lay down again, started to trip again but this time the trip on bed was more of a messed up dream (cant recall anything from it, maybe duration was too short) then I had this paranoid feeling that got pushed to the max, feeling like my soul was being drained by the mirror in front of my bed. I then pulled off from the bed, fall on the floor, shaking & swinging my arms & legs to pull out the evil feeling. Suddenly I felt like the devil himself coming for me, trying to get into my body & eat my soul, that was the worst feeling any human could have, trust me, I yelled out loud “f*ck you, you cant take my soul or my body” feel like I was fighting some sort of ghost, then I yelled “Jesus help me” from inside my head, trying to hold onto my cross necklace (I wore a blessed cross for protection even though Im Aitheist), it was kinda miracle cause Jesus didnt answer me but at that point I felt like somebody made me, that I have to open my room’s door to get outside to survive all this evil sh*t that happening to me, it was like an action caused by instinct that I have to survive no matter what. I got out of my room running for my life to my family’s house feeling like I was surrounded by pure evil, cant actually see anything but FEEL like theres sh*t loads of ghost holding onto my foot to stop me from running away (my room was like 30 ft away from the house with no connection accept for a hallway-like yard), I called for my dad, he saw me from afar, run, kick the door with my bare feet then bounce back away like I was hitted by an invisible wall (my family is buddhist so theres a spot full of buddha statues right behind the main door of the house – old Asian people used to tell stories about how ghost & evil afraid of buddha statue or places like temples, the evil force just cant run to buddha without got hit back) I then kept running & yelling for my dad to come help me, he walk out, hold on to my arm, I was scared as sh*t, got inside the house with my family around me, then I was automatically go to the buddha statue, tell ppl to take my cross off & yell out Ima bow 3 times in front of buddhas, they gotta help me from this sh*t, then I bowed 3 times with my arms frozen in fighting stance (cant help it at all), after that I felt a bit better, my mom pull a necklace with buddha pendant on it over my neck, I heard something telling me (not really a voice) to stand up look at the highest buddha, thats the only way to save myself, so I took all my strength, stand up looking at it, all of a sudden, I dont feel evil sh*t any more (still shaking from it). Afterall that sh*t, I realized I cut myself by running with my ankles down the ground & by kicking the metal door, some real deep cut but while sh*t happening I didnt feel anything AT ALL.
    Now I’m sitting right here writting all this sh*t down for yall, actually did take a joint earlier this morning, felt some chill ran through my backspine though & some minor paranoid about evil. After the last bong hit like seconds ago, I actually believe this stuff is evil now, it’s like a weird feeling, half addicting & half scary, like I woulda do it again to experience the trip to define it more but still afraid this sh*t would content evil elements.
    Afterall, either this a real ghost story & I was just fortunate enough to experience it while Im too high (it make sense since witch & necromancer of the old days used drugs to get high & connect to the otherworld) or this a trashy trip I got from my bag of spice that made my brain go real weak & allowed delusions about evil abe to f*ck me up.
    I had couple friend that did share with me the previous scooby bags & 1 friend who reported the feeling of wanna go burn his ex’s house down after we shared a joint of 7H (this dude is not a smoker type, he used to do meth & sh*t but now only cigarret & alcohol).
    All real talk, Im not a spice hater or any f*cking goverment agent that have to write all these sh*t to spread false propaganda about it to be able to earn some extra bucks.
    DONT EVER TOUCH CHEAP DRUGS KIDS! F*CK SPICE!

  49. Schizophrenia is a genetic disorder that runs in families. You don’t just “get schiziphrenia” like you get a cold. That said, if you’re predisposed to it, doing something like spice can bring it out. Anxiety disorders seem to be really common in people using or recovering from spice. I didn’t think I would ever fully recover from spice and feel strong again after almost 2 years of excessive daily use. I tried all the medicines, I tried different therapists, I got approved for programs where they electrically shock your brain when people have tried every other possible solution and still have life controlling panic attacks and equally bad depression. One day I had enough and said I’m as low as I can possibly be, there is only up, and ive got to do everything I possibly can to help myself, because no one else can do it for me. I put all the pain I felt into working out, eating right, and staying clean. I’m still clean 2 years later, I can remember where I’m driving to again. I’m every bit as smart as I’ve ever been and even stronger than I’ve ever been. I’m doing amazing things. I know now that there’s nothing anybody can go through that they can’t overcome. Everything you go through there’s a reason for, even if you can’t see it at the time. Take action everyday, stay strong, you will come out an amazing person who can handle and do anything.

  50. Mary I am so sorry for you and your family. I hope and pray your nephew improves. My daughter also had a psychotic break in 2011. Today she is 22, still lives at home, unable to work and is diagnosed with schizophrenia/schizoaffective. They honestly don’t know for certain. They also don’t know for certain whether she was predisposed or the drug use “brought it on”. She was smoking spice heavily for several months. We have good days and bad days. She will most likely need to take medication for the rest of her life. Some times the medications work well and others nothing helps. I wish more people would listen and use caution after reading these personal accounts of what has happened to others. I continue to have hope that one day she will be fully functional on her own but until that day we care for her. It is what it is, she is my daughter and I will do what needs to be done for as long as I am able. But, this is not the kind of life one hopes for their child. I do believe this was something that could very well have happened regardless of whether she used these chemicals but I also believe they did not help and made things worse. Perhaps by now she may have been more stable without the added destruction of these chemicals on her brain. Either way my point is, it’s just not worth the risk. My hope for you is peace, understanding and strength to handle the next few months. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

  51. My beautiful nephew 23, just ended up being under a mental health arrest for 78 hrs. He smoked the synthentic weed. He had a psychotic break. They are not sure if he will come back from this. He may end up diagnosed with a horrible life long mental illness, schizophrenia . Whom ever sells this stuff is ignorant to human life. Shame on the makers and sellers of this stuff…. I am going to research in my area and take action. If I am powerless to help my nephew, maybe I can stop it from happening to other kids and families…. I am going to contact the drug administration to get info going. The councilor whom we spoke to said that they know that it injures the brain, some kids come out, some come out with a lot of mental health side effects, others never come back…. She said it takes a long time for the brain to heal, if at all. Today was the worst day of my life…. We are all heart broken

  52. I would also like to say, people shouldn’t be ‘humbled’ to be reading through the terror some of us have posted! That was an old post, but people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. If you didn’t have that reaction, then great but don’t make smart ass comments about people who are probably just ill informed about the effects, or don’t give a fuck what they’re doing to their bodies.
    And certainly don’t care if you’re humbled because you can do more or don’t have these effects. Like congrats, you can hit a blunt better than me!

  53. F*ck.
    That’s all I can say. It’s a f*cked up drug. And I’m no lightweight by any means. I smoke as many bongs as I can per day. Real weed or spice – whatever I can get my hands on.
    I think the fact that I’m writing this at 7.49am and I’m awake with no job is testament to that.
    I could have a job and more, but I’m too depressed so I turned to weed. Then spice. Kinda haven’t looked back. :/
    The difference between weed & synth is enormous. For one – weed doesn’t make you look & act like a crack addict.
    Spice makes you forget who you are, what you were doing, where you are. And your eyes? Red as a devil’s dick within seconds. Much more pronounced than regular weed. I also have breathing difficulties, heart problems, it also causes me to vomit sometimes & absolute immobility. I’ve been laying down before & literally not been able to get up. Gotta say – for the non users – I’ve come pretty close to death. Those who value their lives should steer clear of spice. Teens and silly bastards will do whatever they want regardless. Not gonna say don’t do it, but heed anything I throw down with salt. Please don’t cook, drive or supervise children! It’s so dangerous when in this state.
    Oh and to the dude who said he felt like he was on fire whilst under the influence!? I have also felt this way. It sucks! Never actually smelled fire though, perhaps it was a hallucination if you were not near a fire?
    All sorts of delusions and shit come with this drug but I just tell myself it’s a just a bad trip and I’ll get over it.
    Sometimes it’s not so simple and you piss yourself (twice) and have a seizure instead.
    Luckily I smoke in a three bro group to help me up, clean me up or vice versa.
    Thank god no one has shat their pants yet!
    No one can calm you down once you’re riled up on this shit, maniacal laughing happens a lot.
    Never EVER do this stuff ALONE or without water around.
    And people who are susceptible to mental illness especially schizophrenia – do not do it. It’ll just make the voices louder depending on the spice.
    But I swear, if all that doesn’t happen, and your lucky, and you’re only an occasional user, you’ll just laugh your ass up candy mountain and chill with Charlie.
    I reckon munchies on spice are xbillion worse than weed also.
    Been using for 5 months now, daily. Really wish I could stop! 🙁

  54. I’m not going to post a long story. But from EXPERIENCE of smoking gas station spice for 2&1\2 years and 6 months of homeade. Don’t do it. Finally quit in January, withdrawls were TERRIBLE. Thought I was going to collapse of starvation. This shit will make you sick. You’ll be in denial it’s the spice BC you like it sooo much. It’s all you’ll focus on. My education is Fucked BC I decided to get high. ONE high, it’ll male you want more&more. Then you’re addicted. I can feel the difference it made in my body, my menstrual cycle is all fucked. Crying when I didn’t have it, pathetic. Should I add, I got to the point of puking blood, sounding like I had bronchitis everyday, throwing everything I ate up. If you think youre sick, it’s the spice. (If you’re a user). Just quit. I know too many people whose died from it.

  55. Hello everyone …
    Now a days we call “Spice”… “Space”… My boyfriend been smoking space for a long time, maybe about 5-6 years .. i know, i only been smoking it about a year. Ever since i been smoking i had about 2 or 3 bad accidents, i didnt know where i was.. i was trying to fight people thinking they were against me.. my boyfriend had no bad side affects but he passed out twice in less than 10 minutes and he has some memory loss, he forgets lil things in conversation…. i have some memory loss like.. long term memories , or ill forget why i came into a room then i remember, i can forget what you said to me like 10 minutes ago and if im high dont expect me to remember.. ; i have not thrown up or passed out or had headaches.. i jus forget sometimes..

  56. I have been smoking legal for about 3 years. the first time when it first came out in the stores is when i started smoking. And now whenever i see others smoking it makes me want it even more, but then again the other day on January 17, I fell into a deep deep sleep and was dreaming, but honestly it felt like in was in real life dying… getting beat to death, and being burned. Like if someone has lite my hair on fire with a lighter or ciggarette

  57. I smoked that legal one time and i still think that im on fire whenever i get around anything that smells like a fire, Why does that happen??

  58. Here is my testimony.

    When I was 27, I smoked various brands of “spice” for about a year. I smoked pot constantly. On a lark, my brother and I decided to try it. Bad idea.

    Short term side effects? At first, morning nausea. Bad.

    Later came the heart palpitations, the angina pectoralis. Hallucinations.

    I lost my ability to eat for almost a week. I went 3 days without sleeping.

    Then, I fainted. I smacked my face and neck on a table or chair on the way down. When I woke up, I had nerve damage in my hands from the fall. My hands felt like they were on fire. It was agonizing.

    My blood pressure these days is through the roof. I haven’t smoked in 3 years. I’m better. The first year I suffered from extreme, horrible anxiety. Unbelievable anxiety. It was frightening. Dizzy spells.

    Things are better, but my blood pressure is usually somewhere around 155/90. I have no doubt shaved precious years off from my life because of this…. this shit.

  59. I felt weird today i only smoke 2 times but it had pass like 2 weeks since i smoke and today i felt like i was goin in a trip and felt scared beacuse i haven’t been smoking .

  60. Mann i dont know what the hell is going on but its driving me crazy. I use synthetic Marijuana and when i dont smoke it i cannot eat. I just ate but only a few bites. Before that i havent ate for 19 hours because my stomach felt sicker than a mf. Im feeling sick as a matter of fact now because of the synthetic Marijuana. My stomach feels as if it is shrinking because i cant eat because my stomach is nauseating and its been like that for the past two days now and it is now 8:23 p.m on February 14, 2015. Help me please someone give me an answer or resolution to my problems. Its driving me crazy and i dont know how long i could go on for with this stomach pain and cramping. Is there some kinda help out there?

  61. NIGHTMARE WAS THE WORST SPICE EVER. I was addicted for three years. Ive tried just about all the gas station kinds, I hda whole photo albumn full of mad hatter, kind kong, pure fire, nightmare,mr. Nice guy, lucky devil, hammerhead, blck mamba, ak 47s , I can go on. I moved states and smoked the homemade spice . Its just as bad / if not even worse than crack. I quit eventually. The withdrawls were horrible. Puking every hour, throwing up blood, spitting up blood,BAD congestion, loss of appetite, stomack pains, hot /cold flashes, heaches, couldnt sleep, let alone spice was the ONLY thing on your mind. I thought I was going to die lf starvation, I was so hungry but couldnt eat unless I had spice, I had thoughts od suicide when I didnt have it, I lost so much weight. Im 17 at 95.4 pounds… Just dont ever do it. &If your addited right now, STOP. It will kill you!. Ive been about 4 weeks clean from it now tho! I feel alot slower in my head now, I cant concentrate right. I cant seem to stay focused on one thing. Loss in interest of everything. Im a person who has been permanently damaged from spice. Its my fault tho, I should’ve never picked it up!!

  62. Hey, I was addicted to spice for 3 years, im only 17. Ive finally fully recovered from spice. I had bought so many & tried so many. I smoked a 10 g bag almost everyday on my front lawn with my sister almost everyday for about two years. The kind from gas stations. Then I slowed down to 5, 3,& 1¹/² gram bags every now&then. I moved to a different state & started smking the man made spice. Man made was in little clear bags.I smoked that for a year. I came to realise ineeded to quit. I was puking up everythig I ate , everything that went in my body except for spice. I was spitting up blood, ribs were sticking way out, losing&couldnt keep on weight. So I went on a road trip for a week. I only brought 2 blunts with me. I made them stretch for two days. After that, I thought I was gonna die. Die of starvation&collapse over. Crying out loud. Freaking out. Saying I need spig. Didnt wanna eat ANYTHING. The dts’ were horrible.It was so bad . I was like a crackhead on tht shit. Never pick that shit up! Youll get hooked! Its all you ever think about once youre addicted. Dont ever try it.

  63. Well I started smoking this crap after they banned JWH compounds so I have no idea what was in my bags it was called death grip and pure fire….It messed up my basic motor functions to the point i couldn’t light my lighter or walk its like i would forget…i was paranoid to the point that one day I ran out of my room with a knife yelling to my mom that someone was robbing us….i would dig in the carpet for hours looking for little pieces i dropped like a crack head..i passed out in the most random places even when i was standing up…i lost my job because i was yelling at these customers and kept rubbing my pockets at the same time i dindt even know i wad fired until i walked in the next day…boy he was yelling at me…when i quit i would have night terrors and it would feel like my skin was constantly moving and bad cold sweats…ive done alot of drugs and by far this is the most scary I’ve done..when people compare it to weed i laugh cause weed doesn’t make you OD weed doesn’t make your legs stop working when your walking weed doesn’t make you pass out in the middle of a conversation with someone…if you don’t believe me smoke a whole blunt of spice and see how that goes..i could barely smoke one when my tolerance was high as crap

  64. I could use any advice referrals anything at this point my brother smoked some spice and he hasn’t been the same 🙁 it’s killing me to see him this way my mom took him to dr they told him to detox himself he has the shakes sweats like crazy looks like he just did a line of cocaine what can we do to help who can I go to for him someone please I don’t know what to do is this long term or will this go away TIA

  65. I think my husband is dying, he won’t let me take him to hospital, he is vomiting, hallucinating, grabbing heart, yelling, insane.

  66. Hey I’m Liz from Australia, me, my sister and my best friend have been doing ‘black magic’ and ‘mojo’ if anyone on here has smoked either I’d love to hear your stories. The first time my friend and sister did it they felt like they were going to die. I felt like I was on heroin. Or what I’d expect being on heroin to feel like, having never done it. It makes me very paranoid but you can learn to control the thoughts and enjoy the trip you sort of go on.

  67. My bf ran out of k2 and money yesterday morning around 8:30 am. He was sick all day vomiting and sweating. I woke up at 4:30 am this morning he wasn’t breathing and his whole body was stiff. It seemed like forever but it only took 5 min for the emt to get here. He had started breathing just before they arrived. He couldn’t remember who he or I was, didn’t know his age, kept handing me invisible objects, and asking for tools like he thought he was at work. He’s home now and is responding better. He told me he ate half of the sandwich I gave him when he asked if he was hungry. I made no sandwich. He said he was hot and I asked if he wanted me to open the door cuz he’ll be cold again. He said he needed boxers and new flooring to fix the floors in places. We rent and our floors are fine. Will he be alright again? The ct at the hospital was normal but the dr said he could still have brain damage?

  68. hello peple i been smoking spice for about 4 years now. i dont really seeam to feeel any bad things.
    ii always get high and i like it. i relax and look at the world in a differnt day. some times i feel like i cant even get hungry or sleep if i donnt smoke. if i dont smoke it for more than a day i get angry. y is this stuff some addicting.

  69. Before I smoked 7h, I had smoked weed once. A very small amount. Somehow I got convinced by my boyfriend to try 7h, I let him shot gun me three times & I didn’t feel anything. I then hit the bowl myself two or three more times. Still, nothing. I went to lay down & immediately got up and stood in the door way screaming for my boyfriend to get me water. We were in a friends apartment who had just left for work and I didn’t know I was screaming loud enough for everyone to hear, thankfully no one did. I sat on the couch and thought I was about to die, that my heart was about to reach as fast as it could beat and just stop. When he got me the water all I remember is thinking I was drinking it and I was just pouring it down into my lap. I would try to lay down and feel better, but I don’t remember if I was breathing by or not. Either way, I couldn’t lay down. Eventually after my heart slowed back down to a semi natural beat, and I stopped screaming and could actually function… I started to geek, like it was a normal high. Which was by far the worst experience of my life. A couple weeks after, I had my very first, and to this date, the worst panic attack I’ve ever had. Ever since I’ve experienced severe horrible anxiety. Every single day, the same or sometimes different symptoms and severity of anxiety. I never ever ever recommend anyone to smoke this. Ever. It’s been almost two years and my symptoms ruin everyday life for me. I constantly think I’m about die from a terminal illness or something. I always feel detached and just lousy all the time. I especially don’t recommend if you suffer from bipolar or depression like I did prior to smoking 7h. It enhances your mental illnesses and makes life difficult. I’m so thankful my boyfriend quit smoking it now that he’s off probation and smokes the real weed on a daily basis. After he foamed from the mouth one night, I truly knew that I could never watch someone I love smoke this terrible stuff. I can’t even smoke real weed now, it imitates the bad high I had because that’s what I perceived would happen every time. Now I’m 19, & I feel like my life is temporarily or maybe even permanently damaged from one stupid stupid decision. Don’t smoke this or any other synthetic cannabis. No matter what anyone says.

  70. I was addicted to this for six or seven months, and it doesnt seem like its bad at first. i use to go to my friend house who we would sit down and smoke weed, the natural one, well i guess that stopped coming around spice started to come around. i had knew bout spice and i didnt want to do it at first. well i decided to try it one time. The high was so intense, So powerful i fell in love. It made me sleepy and it just made me in another world. i wasnt in the world i was in. I was really depressed before i started smoking it. So i escaped everytime i smoked it. It got to the point i was smoking it in the mornings before school, go over there during lunch and smoke it, then after school i smoked it util my mom came and got me. I never stopped. It was so fun forthe first the months. My mom noticed a change she knew i wasnt smoking regular weed because i still would socialize and talk to the family. It got to the point i came home ate three plates of dinner and then go to sleep. But that the only time i ate was at night. Im not gonna lie the sleeping was amazing on it. But i would wake up every two hours craving it. i started to stay with my friend almost everyday to do it. My mom started to noticed i kind of woke up and was ready, didnt do anything for schooling didnt wash myself at all, and didnt take care of myself. My hair was gross. Then bout the fourth month i had the worst trip in the world. everybody was in my friends room so it was so small i just started thinking i was shrinking his door wass small i had to crawl out of it. but i blew that trip off and kept smoking it, i thought i was in hell a lot of times. my frinds room literally looked like hell. i thought i was dead looking at my body. i literally thought the devil had been inside me. i thought i had so many demons, i didnt care bout anything. Not my mom, my dad, my neices, my nephews, my sisters, no one. I was evil. i really did have demons inside me. i didnt pray or believe in god at the time. But i quit Janurary 7th 2014. I feel so good now. i pray to god every night, i love my family. i clean myself and care for my self. my friend still on it which makes me upset but i cant tell him not to do it. it even messes up my weed high sometimes, like i start tripping. My mind like to play games with me because thats what it is use to. But i will stop one day.

  71. Idk why all Yale tripping I’ve smoked spice for years and nothings happened . The only time you trip is the first time you smoke it after you haven’t in a long time. And I’ve smoked all kinds red magic, blue magic, dzl, mad hatter, scobby snack, Mr nice guy , tons of kinds besides k2 . And nothings happened only dzl with long term smoking makes your body hurt and that’s when it’s time to switch brands. I think personally people think their way into od’ING or whatever cuz YES your gonna trip balls but if the person next to you is Str8 you gonna be too. The last time I smoked was diablo and I hadn’t smoke it like 6 mths I was with my bf and two other ppl and they were saying crazy shit which made me trip harder so I got up went in the cool ac came back out and just focused on my babydaddy he was chill like always. You have to stay calm don’t think of tripping or anything crazy like that, just think you are smoking weed. And if you do start thinking crazy stop yourself change the subject of your convo start talking, kissing, whatever you have to do to keep it 100 and then after you smoke the first time all the other times will be much better, also the high don’t last that long! So if you tripping tell yourself you ain’t gonna be high in 10 mins anyway. So seriously ppl calm down stop making yourself trip some it cuz it don’t show up on any drug test unless requested and stop over thinking ! Its a short good high 🙂

  72. Hey Tommy! I hope you read this and you fix your solution. I had a trip once with spice that i talk about way higher up in the section. But yes, i do believe you are telling the truth and decided to help you. During my horrible trip, i had demonic voices in my head telling me to kill myself and that my life was not worth it at the time. You have to understand that being unsober, especially what spice does to you… WILL increase the possibility of a demon coming to your life and maybe even your body. So the first thing you have to do is honestly and truly believe that whatever is causing this is actually there. Once you establish that ground, do not be afraid. Let me put it like this, now since you know there is evil, well the opposite which is good is also definitely there. Therefore, seek the things of light, pray and go to church. Speak the name of Jesus Christ around your house because his name brings power and truly believe this. Where there is room for God, there is no room for anything else. This is the time to step out of your comfort zone and trust your Creator. For he will protect you.

    If anyone else is suffering from an addiction and/or demonic presence. Seek to contact me so that we may lift each of those by the power of God

  73. Hey everybody! This is Tony from the previous post and I’m here to tell you YOU CAN DO IT! I set my foot down and refused to smoke and went through the craziest experience in my life with the withdrawals. You WILL feel like it’s NEVER going to end, but it WILL! You will completely go back to normal, but YOU have to be STRONG enough to stay away! You CAN! I did, and it changed my life for the better. I actually have a lust for life now beyond what I previously had. I have a lot more passion now for the things you do in life. If you’re going through it and you’re having a hard time, I’m here for anybody. I made it through, and so can you. You’ll feel like you’re going to die, but you won’t. The human body is an amazing thing, and you will learn to be more appreciative of what you put into your body afterwards. Good luck everyone and stay STRONG!

  74. Hello, I am a 40 year old male who has tried most blends over the past 3 yrs. Never once going through with drawl when stopping. Sometimes really getting it in when at a party or group setting of friends on the weekends and smoking up to 15 grams between 4 people wasn’t a strange thing. There were many breaks with use to use throughout these years, sometimes lasting 9 months before trying a blend again. Natural weed being the choice 4 me it wasn’t like these away times from the spice wad missed horribly and there was no substance in my system at all.
    Having started playing around with the spice again 2 months ago I decided to get the strongest the foreign store owner recommended. He seemed to have a trust in me and knew I wasn’t a whistle blower somehow. He felt relaxed and happy around me and always said hello even when I would see him outside store hours or days of in operation of the risky business. I really liked the taste and smell of one particular brand that had a strong initial high and a lasting effect. Soon I got a tolerance to it and was becoming frustrated that all my ditch town could produce was this level of strength in the new 4grm. Pack everyone with 20 bucks could have. The next visit to Happy foreign friends store was going good to ask him straight up the strongest sh*t he has. Why not? He had already made me comfortable in being a customer by way of politeness and generosity. The next visit to “the store” was a great day for me, or at least I thought it would be. I left with a new colorful pouch in my cargo pocket pants that day , feeling a sense of fear of hmmm maybe it’s going to be too strong and that was exciting 4 me.
    When I got home and went straight to the bedroom to try the new treat I was already having elevated heart beats due to the 22 stairs in my town home to the upper level I just scaled like an olympian.
    I am going to skip my story and save all the day by day details for when I am asked to tell it I will no problem. I will leave you with this though…….and Take this to be real!!!!!!!!! I now have a disfigured evil ugly spirit like ghoul a.k.a. an Entity or ghost like demon of large size and strength living, walking, slamming doors, and rearranging my littlest daughter in an upright position every night to sleep leaning on her little bed smiling with her eyes closed but in a full sleep state. No matter how many times my wife and I arrange her back into normal sleep position.
    And for the doubters, I have a photo of this entity and my daughter is not repositioning herself back to sleep standing again. 24 hr. Video supports that.
    He’s ugly and pure evil, and 30 seconds ago just had 2 stop typing cuz, well, he decided to interrupt me in a way that was less than pleasant. I’m not on a big data plan so I don’t spend a ton of time on the net but I feel that the people who have been a target of evil demons should know they are NOT alone!
    I just don’t know if it was the blend spray that gave our new hated household destroyer his last key or not to crossover to our turf. Thank you for reading. Sleep well all.

  75. Good luck Tony. Let us know how it all goes and don’t hesitate to ask for medical help if there is need. Stay away from synthetic marijuana from now on.

  76. Hey everybody. I’ve started smoking a spice called Black Lotus recently. At first, the only effects I had were the high. Now I’m hurting trying to fight off withdrawals, but I think I can do it. This feeling has only started recently, as far as the withdrawal symptoms. I have the same symptoms as everyone else, minus the nausea, vomiting and headaches. It’s been two days, but I feel like I’m getting slowly better. Was actually able to sleep for some okay hours last night. I still get the shakes, I’m hot and cold now as we speak. I have intense mood swings. I’ve even threatened harm to a friend I’ve known for most of my life, and now we don’t speak. Everything is in a haze for the most part, though I do get the occasional bouts of clarity.

    PLEASE LISTEN TO ME!!! This is what the sellers do- They give bags to you that they have portioned in a certain way chemically. The ones they give you at first don’t have the chemical that makes you have withdrawals. It’s called Black Lotus- Avoid it please!! I’m at my parent’s house right now tryin to detox, though they are clueless about my condition. Anyways, they start to give you more potent bags. It got to a point where I wouldn’t feel a spice high, just an amplification of the withdrawal feeling before about an hour of physical relief. Seeing what it’s doing to me and my community, I reported them. I will do everything in my power to stop these people.

    See how easily I got sidetracked? 🙁 They sell bags to you in a certain way. It’s to get you addicted. They KNOW what they’re doing. The people who sell this shit are Indian. Their’s no good intent with this! They WANT to poison us! They have bags set up knowing what to give to increase potency in doses to people and start introducing this highly addictive substance inside. It’s almost like it forces you to move in a weak manner, mentally and physically. THINK about it! Why is this the ONLY thing doing this? I’ve smoked a lot of brands of spice in a period of time (I’m really not that heavy of a smoker) and I’ve NEVER had this type of feeling! 🙁 This is made specifically to kill us. We need to stick together and get this shit BANNED PERMANENTLY. I already reported my spice seller to the police and my local news station. Call me what you want, but at the end of the day I’m helping to SAVE LIVES. It really is that serious!! If you’re here it’s cause you’re feeling bad like the rest of us, but we can pull through this! We’re STRONG! Fuck those devil worshiping Indians selling us this poison to kill us slowly. I will NEVER smoke again, and if I see someone smoking it around me either I’m gonna take that bag and flush it, or walk away and not care. I can’t walk away because I care about my fellow human. Good Luck!! I’ll check back in 2 days to report progress, wish me luck!!

  77. As im sitting here in the hospital with my brother seeing the pain he is goimg through kills me. Remember spice users it doesn’t only hurt you but those around you as well.
    He is having symptoms like

    Shaking uncontrollably
    Sweating like crazy
    Seizures
    Abdominal pain
    Coughing

    I ask that you guys DO NOT DO THIS PLEASE!!!

    Note: he’s had 9 seizures in the last 20 minutes.

    This is no joke!

    He has visited more than 3 to 4 hospitals and they have not found “anything wrong with him”. In the end of ’12 he weighed 225 he was a big guy he was all muscle. He started losing it after a while and in the beginning of ’13 he got really swollen. In those years he had no appetite at this point all he could eat was soft food that was blended up in the blender and baby food. He moved out of town for a while and came back a couple of months and he was exactly the same. Any normal food he would eat would come right back up. Now he is around 130.. please I cant stress this enough do not do this.

  78. I smoked weed , about 2 days ago , ever since then I can’t remember anything , don’t know where I am half the time , I feel depressed, never hungry , I hVe no idea how long this will last untill I am back to normal does anyone know?

  79. Hi concernedmom4. Herbal Incense is referred to as Spice, K2, K2 Spice, K2 Summit, Premium Blend K2, Spice Gold, Spice 99, Black Mamba Spice, Synthetic Marijuana, Legal Herb, Legal, Weed, K2 Weed, Synthetic THC, JWH-018, Vodoo Spice, Serenity Now and many other names.

  80. Concernedmom4 get your son off this by any means necessary.. It’s called spice on the street but the real name is HERBAL INCENSE!! HERBS?? He ain’t going to like it as I never had any problems while smoking it!! It’s when you ain’t got it when it drives you mad!! If you love your son which I’m 100000% sure that you do!! Stop it right now do anything and everything. The more he smokes it-the more damage will be done to his mental health … Or god forbid lose his life!! ACT NOW !! WASTE NO MORE TIME!!

  81. This sh*t is the devils drug!! Should be banned class a++. Everybody, please stay off this garbage as it absolutely f*cks with your mental state. I only smoked it for a couple of weeks, a gram a day. Can’t believe you can buy this over the counter. Whoever thought of this shit needs a slap!! My brain feels like it’s burning. I can’t eat or sleep and I sweat like f*ck. Freaking me the hell out. I also feel wide eyed and my whole body shaking like a dirty little smack head. I quit on Thursday, 7th August 2014 it’s only been 4 days. Hope it goes away… In a way now it’s a blessing in disguise if I get through it. I am never doing any type of drug ever again in my life not even weed or alcohol!! I’ve seen the light. This is not who I am or want to be!! Time to start winning at life and stop wasting time on killing my brain cells! PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! STAY OFF THIS DEVILS WEED!!

  82. girl i had a boyfriend that did the same thing thank god after years smoking it hes nothaveing the symtoms im haveing buts hes off it but alot of people will im telling u now for a fact get him help becuase its going to get worse that are people who have died on it so im telling im praying to god that u hear what i have to say becus i dont want people to go thru what iw ent thru and what other people are going thru its worse pain n the world and if u dont stop him now then im not sure but get him girl asap

  83. My bf smokes this alot.. everyday. Once he is home from work it’s all he does. Its been 2 yrs now of constant smoking and in the last 6 mos. Ive noticed a huge change in his personality. He does not. And then gets upset w me when I try to tlk about it. I dnt know what to do.. tonight he had drank prob 8 beers and then when we went to head to bed he smoked a joint of spice. Turned the light & went to sleep.. next thing I know hes freaking out bc he is hearing voices. I cant live w him doing this. We have kids in the house also. I dnt know how to get him to realise it is ruining things. There has been other bad times mainly him yelling at me for no reason. & crazy mood swings. How do I help him!??

  84. ok so im basically freaking out i started smoking this cr*p about mid of 2011. I was a regular pot head, but since it wasn’t getting me high anymore and saw my friends doing this cr*p i decided to do it as well. At first the highs were good but then, i started to smoke even more so i could get higher ended up maybe 2 jars a day towards this year. 2014 was only 1 jar a day, just for the fact that i didn’t have any money. My unemployment was cut off at the end of 2013 so, recently on July 9th i stopped completely. Haven’t touched it since then; today i believe is my 10th day with out which i’m very proud but i’m scared out my mind though. The first couple of days with out smoking had chest pains, muscle spasms, sweating on my feet and hands, tingling feeling all over my body, lil nausea… i’m still eating and i do get hungry. I’ve been fine the last couple of days; haven’t been sleeping all night, i did sleep for a couple of hours in the afternoon a day ago but, yesterday night i didnt sleep at all. I thought i was going to be able to, but once it go to be like 5 am or 6 am my body stared to do the whole muscle movement for no reason. My body just felt like it wants to go numb so, i get up and since all i’ve been doing is drinking for these 10 days (lots of water tea with out sugar and juice). But once my body feels real tired i feel like my soul is ready to come out of my body so i can’t rest, i wake up instantly because i get scared that i’ll get stuck like that.
    It’s 10 am right now and i’m still feeling tingly as hell and feel like my body wants to go numb. I’m so tired i want to go to sleep but i am scared will this go away?? If someone could please write and let me know it would be highly appreciated. I’m not sure if i should go into a program for detox or what should i do. Will it go away? I just took some laxative so i can use the bathroom and see if it could come out that way. Please help me! I’m only 26 haven’t experienced much in life and want to still live! This is definitely a wake up call i def don’t ever want to touch nor want to smoke it i hate it to death! Could someone help me with these questions ????

  85. I smoked thi for about a year. It got bad, 10 gram a day bad between me and my buddy. I desided to stop on July 11, 2014. Now I have a few questions at this point.
    1.How long until I can feel somewhat normal again?
    2. It almost feels my skin is numb all of the time. Anyone else ever hear about this because it’s the one that has me the most frightened right now?
    3. Can you develope insomnia from this
    4. I’m taking a risk on this one, but I’m in the Army, Infantry to be particular. I was a good soldier at one point. Going nowhere but up. I was the star, I was just good at it and enjoyed my job. Now I’m a compleat bag. I leave work to go burn all of the time. My PT is going down. My squad leader is constantly pulling me aside to make sure I’m all right. It takes me longer to learn things. I guess I’m just asking how much of myself I can expect to have been killed by this.

  86. This is Jon T reporting back, and after being clean for a week and a half I can definitely say it does get better. Its like I’m a whole new person already, and my resolution to stay away from spice hasn’t wavered as of yet. I appreciate your response mike p, I’m glad to know someone else has had a similar reaction.

  87. Jon T I’ve also been threw the same shit. I’ve been clean for months now and it gets better bro. It’s withdrawal is worse than methadone.

  88. Hello everybody, my name is Jon (obviously) and I would like to share my story with you all. Maybe I can help someone else who went through the battle I’ve been going through for the past 2 (I think) years. I say I think that its been two years because doing this shit has messed with my perception of time so badly that the days seem to melt together even from the past week and I have to focus to remember when things happened. I can remember clearly events in my life, just the order/time period they happened in is very fuzzy. I have been clean for 4 days now. This may not seem like much, but I know for sure I am done this time for good.

    I’ll start from the beginning and work my way up to the scariest event of my life so far that spurred me to stop this evil drug. A friend of my dads was watching our house while my dad was in prison, and he smoked spice. One day he offered it to me. I accepted, not knowing of any Ill side effects, and began doing it regularly. By the time I had researched it and discovered all of the horrible things it can do to you, I found I didn’t care, dismissing it all as propaganda to scare me out of having a legal high. I still didn’t consider myself addicted to it. By the time my dad got out of prison and everything in the household was back to normal, I had found out how easy and cheap this stuff was to obtain. I was doing it every day at this point, about a gram every day or two. It got to the point where the law starting cracking down on it ( I live in the US) and I had to go to certain gas stations at certain times to get it. It was so bad I was having these guys front it to me to give me time to steal money to get it.

    At this point, I was getting a feeling I was addicted, but the worst undesired effect I had experienced up to this point was dozing off in my chair when I stayed up late bingeing. It seemed harmless, so I didn’t give a damn about being hooked. I even got my girlfriend to try it a few times so she would be okay with me doing it around her.

    Then came the woeful day when I thought I was finally done. I believe I had been doing it for about a year, then all the spice in the stores was suddenly gone, I couldn’t even get it under the table from the guys I knew. It just wasn’t being packaged and sold anymore. I was at the end of my senior year in high school at this point, and it sucked going to school withdrawing from this stuff more than it did being high on it. At my graduation ceremony about a month or two after it stopped being sold in stores some friends of mine from school who also did it introduced me to someone who sealed home made batches of it, in bags like you would get weed. It was amazing, I felt on top of the world. I had access to it again! And no legislative action would stop these guys, as they were fully aware of its legal status.

    I attempted college that fall, hooked on it as bad as ever. At first I went to all my classes and did everything I was supposed to do, albeit while high. Then it got to where I couldn’t stand not being able to binge on it like I used to. At home my family was fully aware I was (or at least had been) addicted to spice, so that was a no go. I couldn’t sit there and get high in class, so I started going out to the college, and getting high in my car all day, then going home. I still showed up to classes sometimes, just barely enough to keep up with things (or so I thought) until it became apparent I was going to fail no matter what I did. That was the breaking point. I started using my gas money on this it, hiding at a library near my house all day JUST FOR THE SAKE OF GETTING HIGH. AND I STILL DIDNT REALIZE I HAD A PROBLEM. After I failed college, I decided to get a job for the first time in my life. That did nothing but fuel my addiction, it gave me more money than I knew what to do with. After about six months of working, we come to the final chapter of my addiction. This past Saturday, the 14th of June, 2014, was where the shit hit the fan. I got off work at around 10:30 and started smoking once I got home. After about 4 hours of sitting next to my girlfriend while she slept I began to get paranoid. I went into the other room and took a couple more hits from my pipe. I bumped into something when I went to come back in the bedroom, with the intention of laying down. The noise woke my girlfriend, and she rushed into the room I was in before I had taken a few steps. I’m not exactly sure why this happened at this moment, but I remember suddenly feeling terrified and I started to have a seizure. When I say started to I mean I didn’t fully loose consciousness, but my legs and arms were shaking uncontrollably and my girlfriend immediately grabbed my arms and asked if I was okay. I tried to tell her I was but my speech was impaired. I believe I was foaming from the mouth slightly because she wiped my mouth and looked really scared. My eyes were fluttering, and I suddenly thought to myself “no, I’m not going to let this happen to me” and I felt I needed something to hold onto or I would lose it completely. I asked my girlfriend repeatedly to let me wrap my arms around her while I was still seizing, and when she finally let me, is when it stopped. I don’t know how or why, maybe the seizure was just over and I had a false sense of control over it. This alone wouldn’t have been enough to terrify me away from this substance however. I’ll tell you right now, 5 days after it happened it already feels like a dream and if it were not for what happened next I can almost guarantee I would be smoking it right now. My gifriend had the brilliant idea of recording a video of me to show me how I looked on that shit after I sobered up (once she was sure I wasnt going to die, although I was still very much fucked up). So she sat me down in a chair and interrogated me for about 11 minutes, all on video. When I saw that video the next day I wanted to cry and laugh at myself at the same time for how absolutely retarded I acted. I can’t believe that I could be reduced to a stuttering idiot who takes 10 seconds to get out a sentence AND NOT EVEN CARE. If it weren’t for me having this video as a reminder to myself of how bad this stuff really is, I probably still wouldn’t care. Fellow addicts or loved ones of addicts, try to get a recording of yourself or the loved one in question while they are really fucked up and show it to them while sober. They will be shocked at how simple minded they were. I hope my story will help someone out there get clean.

    Now, I want to go into a little bit of detail as to what the withdrawal has done to ravage my body and mind so far. I will note that the cravings are minimal, and have been even since the first day clean. 1. I have had insomnia, resulting in me getting to sleep around 3 in the morning every night thus far, and then not being able to sleep again once I wake up in the morning. I never understood insomnia before this, I’ve never once in my life has issues sleeping or getting to sleep. Now I truly understand what it means to get frustrated at laying in bed for hours at a time trying to sleep. 2. I can’t eat. I mean I literally can’t do it. I feel the hunger in my stomach, but unless I smoke some pot to aid my appetite, every time I go to chew and swallow something solid I feel all of a sudden like my stomach is bursting full already and I’m going to throw up if I swallow. 3. Im an emotional rollercoaster. I haven’t cried, or in fact felt much of anything except euphoria, paranoia, and utter depression for the past few years. Now its like a floodgate has been opened in my heart, and I find myself tearing up at the things that usually wouldn’t faze me. Hell I bet I could induce some tears right now if I wanted to. Aside from that, I forgot what the difference between true hapiness and euphoria is. Its subtle, but real, true happiness is more fulfilling. Also, anger. Anger is a healthy emotion, and I didn’t realize how passive I had been prior to my quitting of synthetics. I have some fire, some passion in me now. Don’t get me wrong, these things aren’t pleasant, because like I said, its a rollercoaster. I can’t tell when I’m about to get struck by an emotion so strong I don’t know what to do with myself. There are more than the three I listed, but my comment is already lengthy, and I want people to be able to finish this without getting bored. Just one last thing I’d like to add. I feel like there’s something different about me now. I want to wait for a few months to say for sure, but I fear some part of me was lost in this addiction. I used to be brilliant, top 10 of my class in high school, all sorts of amazing prospects for life, but I don’t know if I have it in me to continue my education. Maybe I will someday regain what was lost, and I will be able to do it. Don’t ask me what it is I lost, I don’t know. I just know something is gone from my mental capacities. Okay, im done. This was what I needed, to get this off my chest and put it in writing to make my promise to myself concrete. I promise I will never touch this hell spawned drug ever again.

  89. Eh, I’ll try and be brief. First I want to list my noticeable side effects so you may cross check with mine, because for the laymen just browsing through, he won’t want to read all this.

    Noticeable negative Side Effects:
    Chronic headaches more prevalent
    Shortness of breath
    Pain in left chest (actually goes a way after a couple weeks- more than likely directly related to ‘spice’)
    Irritability
    Personality changes
    Appetite- weight gain/loss (I’ve noticed while I’m on a binge, I can’t eat unless I’m high. And than I don’t get full at that point either)
    Bad breath
    Dissociative
    Tendency to more lazy
    Tendency to be more aggressive
    Tendency to be much more careless

    And one more, I’ve noticed I have a nagging pain in my right hip. Now I may have pulled something, but if you are experiencing a discomfort or pain there, I would say maybe get it checked out, an MRI or RT might be in order for you, provided you have good enough insurance.

    Quite frankly, I don’t see what the big deal is. What happened to responsibility, and moderation? I’ve smoked different blends of synthetic chemicals off and on since about 2011. The highs are all generally the same, with an enormous headache after. The high is noticeable almost instantly, and you are back to base cognitive levels after around 20 mins give or take. With a few hours of ‘hangover’ effect, For example I felt a lot more irritable and short tempered, I was tired and groggy, and I felt hella lazy. Sobriety came by way of just being tired of the high. It’s not near as thrilling as it was, and never was comparable to regular marijuana. However, it does take A LOT more marijuana to obtain the same type high that 7H achieved for me (our your choice blend), and I’ll even admit, marijuana doesn’t have near the strength and effect on me that it used to a couple years ago. Anyways, if you are on this website looking for information, you are already in the right direction. Take control of your life and strangle your addiction. It’s not going away on its own, and it’s a lot easier to solve it now than in a couple years when you are left picking up the pieces of your then broken life.

    However, I need to call someone out, and the whole reason for my comment posting.

    “Yes its harmful to your sperm cells. Its in your system. It hasn’t been widely studied yet, so no one knows the actual damage it can cause.”- MsJ (THURSDAY, OCTOBER 24TH, 2013)

    Who the fuck are you!? Are you a microbiologist? Are you a organic chemist? Do you even have a Bachelors of Science degree!? No? Than shut the fuck up! I’m so god damn sick of people trying to HELP others by spreading blatant misinformation. What on earth gives you the audacity to tell anyone that the drug is harmful to your sperm cells? You reason that because it’s ‘in your system’ than it must be harmful to sperm cells. Well first of all, sperm cells are regenerated to the tune of millions a day, second of all, your body naturally removes toxins from your body and bloodstream, problems with these types of drugs (and others while I’m at it) is that the drug causes damage to the major organs in the body, at which point the toxins are harder to rid. However, by the time this happens you have way bigger worries than sperm cell characteristics like speed, quantity, size, etc.
    So not only do you blatantly lie in order to further your argument, or justify your lie by ‘helping someone make the right decision for themselves’, you than contradict your statement by promptly adding “It hasn’t been widely studied yet, so no one knows…” So please tell me why you feel the need to spread misinformation like this? People reading this, do not just read a few peoples comments on a drug addiction website and act you know what you are talking about when you don’t. Do your own research, get opinions from multiple sources, preferably from unbiased places. However the topic at hand can make certainly make it more difficult to find unbiased opinions, and even harder to find actual legitimate science. But it’s out there, do a little hard searching, and ask in places like Shroomery, Bluelight, Reddit and the likes. Besides, it’s not your sperm you should worry about anyways, it’s your kidneys and or liver.

  90. Hey guys I am from the UK and there is no doubt that the synthetic stuff we get here is far weaker than those bought elsewhere, for example America. However the effects are just as bad, all these negative comments really opened my eyes. I stopped just over a week ago, and while I feel much better, i am still so worried that I will never get back to normal, the pressure in my head, fear of dying, the paranoia ! Does it get better guys? There is no doubt that this stuff has scared me beyond words and I am very lucky that I realsied to quit before it was too late, I only smoked the stuff for a month, and it left me a wreck ! I am so glad to have found people like you all to know I am not alone, but guys really, just pay the bit extra and smoke the real stuff, because spice simply is not worth it!

    Finally just to mention the blends I have smoked and if amyone has any information? as it seems the American incense blends are much different than those we get here in the UK, these are the only blends I have ever tried and will ever try..

    “Blueberry incense blend”
    “BB-22”
    “5F-PB22 – AKB- 48F”

    Hope to hear from you all soon, but thank you all so much for posting, thank you so much !!

  91. It’s been five months since I’ve used spice. But I didn’t quit soon enough.. I was addicted for five years straight, I’m so lucky I’m not dead. I did come close more than a few times but it wasn’t enough to scare me into quitting. I ended up homeless even tho I was making good money every day, it literally all went to my addiction. I lost a good woman because I was so blinded by the drug I could express any emotion, I lost my libido, my memory slipped, I wasn’t me anymore. I exiled myself from my friends and family because I didn’t want to be seen in the zombie like state I was constantly in. One day things were going as usual, smoke, sleep, smoke, sleep… But at a certain point in the day I woke up with extreme pain in my right leg, that eventually turned into numbness and tingling, sometimes like I had been stabbed with a million needles from my knee down. I had a clear thought for the first time in five years, I thought if I didn’t do something I was going to die. So I confided in a friend, she took me in and helped me rid myself of the toxic chemicals. On December 31st I put it down for good and made a resolution to quit for good and use my experience to help others, I’m currently looking into drug addiction counseling. If you’re still reading this I thank you for taking the time, and I hope you either quit already or have the desire to quit. It’s doable, if I can kick it after five years, you can too! Peace and love. And yes, I used my real name because I am proud of what I’ve done in quitting.

  92. WOW!!!! Never in my life did I believe I would be here. I’m thankful that I can even type. I’m thankful that I can read, breath, and talk. Seriously. If you are reading this, you probably are in a world of hurt. I’m so sorry. Grab your love one right NOW, and drag their tail to Rehab. No choices!!!!! If you don’t, say goodbye. I’m a product of the 70’s. A child of former drug addicts, took my dad. Always considered myself strong, intelligent, and reliable. Not anymore. I have synthetic to thank for that. It was nov 13 when I found this stuff. Trying to get off weed used to pass the time. Never did I realize that something so devastating could be bought at a store. Sure you can argue about alcohol and other drugs, but this is different. At first it was a miracle. A great high, no recognizableAble smell, legal, etc. it wasn’t. The devil deffenetly got in me and took me. You or your loved one are not safe. I was in IOP at the time for alcohol abuse. I was smarter than them. They couldn’t catch me. UntIl I was found on my patio by my wife completely cracked out. Yes that’s right cracked out. Every seen a crack head. Smoke legal and look in the mirror. Couldn’t talk, pipe fell out my hand. At this point I was using at least every 2 hours. I would find myself in very familiar places, but not knowing where I was, or where I was going. I would have to wait for the rush to subside to realize or remember what I was doing. Then I would smoke all over again. And this process repeated itself over and over again. No rational thought process. I am very fortunate that I didn’t lose everything. Actually I did, not in the physical sence, but mentally and spirituality. I had to chose, life or legal. I hate to admit, but LEGAL BEAT JESUS!!!!! If you haven’t left for the hospital yet, keep reading. No sleep. No sex. No food. No water. Just legal. That’s all that mattered. The only time I felt safe was when I had secured enough product to last through the day. You or your love one probably feel the same way. Users don’t usually read blogs about their problems until its too late. I say good luck. The fight has been tough and I am no where’s close to being ok. Random moments of clarity happen. They do want to quit. Trust me. They just don’t know how, or are scared of being sick. Well you or they will be sick, mad, hateful, mean, just terrible. All this will go away in about a week or so. My wife has been my rock. It was only when I asked for her help that I had the courage and strength to stop. Let me now tell you it’s only been a week. I am writing this as therapy to myself. Please don’t disregard what I have said, do my total inexperience. What I am saying is true. My wife and zi researched all types of help. I reccomend in patient if you can. I am too hard headed to admit to strangers my problems, so I decided to go the hard way. I don’t recommend , but it’s better than being a vegetable. That’s right, it’s not if but WHEN. That’s a fact. I read these blogs and they helped. In moments of sobriety I was able to tell I wasn’t alone. There have been many more before me. The problem I have with inpatient is that they will say they have no idea about this drug, and won’t garantee a recovery. So I decided to quit, and if I couldn’t recover and had to die, I would do itat home. Today y mind is clear, but my heart is broken. I am ashamed, not relieved. I hope I can start being proud of the hard days of the past week, but I am still recovering. I want so badly to beat this. I want to love myself again. That’s what this drug has taken from me. ME! If you have been using, the fellowship of other users will help. I am now where I can talk about it, but it’s so embarrassing that emotions just go crazy. I look forward to the day when the no good MF’s that brought this in my life are in prison, or killed by their own medicine. I know that’s harsh, but not as harsh as what I have lost and been through. The stories below mine are the same. Story after story of heartache and despair. Why could such a thing be allowed to be sold at a store or online. So I will stop ranting and tell you what I have done in the last week.
    Voluntary lock down. No keys, money, no way! Taking Benadryl to calm my nerves. Imodiumto control bowel dumping. Gatorade to combat dehydration. I went to my GP. He put me on Welbutryn. But most importantly the love and support of my family. No judging, just love and support. I feel stronger than I have in a year. My mind is starting to come back. My memory is better. I know what day it is and the date. Believe me that is huge! Please grab your loved one and go now. Don’t try to talk, it doesn’t help. Just grab them and go. Go now, or say goodbye!

  93. I did it for four months and lost 100 lbs. I don’t care for the stuff but would like to figure out what was in it to help lose weight. Do not want to use this stuff. Just wanna research what could have been. Anyone have any ideas? Leaves? JHW?

  94. So my “friend” did demon spice, and found that it raised his testosterone to insane levels without being hyped up. He went from 240 lbs to 190 lbs, going to the gym and putting up the best lifts of his life, then running for 5-10 miles a day. Very little sleep was required. It also was common for other people in his city were doing the same thing. The sex shop said women bought it nonstop for weight loss. It also made him a beast in the sack, talking 5-6-7 times a day, no lie. He was applying to government jobs he had tested for before. Previously he scored around 88-90 percent on these which is good, he finish the tests 1st in record time and scored 98 percent…sounds too good to be true right? He was solving and figuring out literally anything he focused on. The problem became the cost and the addiction. He needed it. He played football on it and was a monster. Everyone assumed he was just on steroids or meth. He goes to the doctor and is in the best shape of his life. The problem is after a while he began to lose his social skills with the average person. It appeared everyone was slow and dumb, stating the obvious. He became short, less fun to be around…sure he finally had a six pack after being the fat kid his whole life. He was picking up women left and right just going out to grocery stores. Everyone was impressed with his tricks to unraveling complex chemistry formulas. It was literally like a Jason Bourne super drug. But the cost was too much, he eventually tries to quit. He doesn’t want to necessarily, but there is something amazing to being average. Like others he claimed to have out of body experiences. He would beat anyone at strategy games, and memorized every single road in the big city he lived in. He would read nonstop, and to this day considers this a life changing experience. Sure he was a little weird, but now he was ready to be a normal blissful idiot. Like the matrix he took the other pill and wanted to go back. He quit and had horrible withdrawal, quit cold turkey. He began to workout lightly and after a full week of heavy withdrawal symptoms, returned to normal. He still craved it for the next year and to this day. He is very successful in his job. He rarely talks about his experiences because many think it is truly drug induced. It was by far the strongest addiction because of the great side effects and the physical addiction. He has been clean for 2 years now, lost the strength, muscles gains, and is now back up to 240 lbs or more. Is normal, 1-2 times a day with his gf, but is no longer superman in the sack. Sure life isn’t as fun, but he is normal, there is a beauty to being normal. He also claims the out of body experiences, and claims he inherited the souls/abilities of past people. He knows they were delusions, but he proved to us over and over he would awake with their abilities and knowledge. Once was a WWII pilot, we thought he was bullshitting until he randomly did a flight simulator and knew everything about it. Also how he was cracking the chemical formulas. Crazy talk I know. He is much more relaxed and average joe now. But he did document how the package used to have a ziplock like seal. Then around spring/summer of 2011 they changed to say “DOD” and a number like: “DOD1253” on the seal instead of double zip lock. He photographed and tracked hundreds of packages that were the same. He is now interested in finding out why the DOD was on here? DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE he claims. Anyone else notice this with demon spice and bayou blaster?

  95. To all of you out there, when my 20 yr. old son detoxed he was throwing up blood and black stuff for a few weeks, couldn’t eat, couldn’t sleep more than 2 hours at a time, had chills but was sweating at the same time, he was talking to people that weren’t there in different voices that we never heard him talk in before, and he experienced severe pain. He went through hell and back. He has smoked legal weed before and has experimented with other drugs and has said that this is the only drug that had him so addicted that he worked strictly for his habit. He did say depending on which state you get it from the effects are different. He began using in a state where it was legal to buy in stores while he was working a job for about a year but when he returned home you had to buy it on the streets because it is illegal. That would be in Louisiana. They are making it here and lacing it with heroin, pcp, and many other unknown substances. That is when he noticed the difference and knew he had to get off of it because it became his life. He lived for the drug and without it he could no longer function! I watched him suffer. Please do yourself a favor and get off now!!!! Just last week someone we knew died from detoxing! It IS that serious!

  96. I used spice for 6 months. Then I realized what this drug was doing to me. I started having chronic headaches, and still kind of have them. Whats helped my body is talking a detox clay and it helps draw out the chemicals. Im also going to take a nerve supplement. That aids in the body’s recovery of its nervous system. This stuff is bad news. Im also taking omega 3 6 & 9 oils to help the brain. Its seems to work. The recovery is slow. In the bible the word sorcery is mention as a sin. If practiced then one becomes guilty of it. The word actually has a definition in the greek of pharmaceuticals. (Mind altering substances.) This drug along with many other drugs open a persons mind up to the realm of darkness. The demons want u to believe your hallucinating but your not. You come in contact with what the bible says are evil spirits (demons). Ive came to Jesus Christ as my saviour. And he saved me. He shed his blood at the cross and died Then rose again, and if anyone comes to him by faith believing who he is and what he did. Then they will be saved. Jesus has the power and authority to forgive us and save our souls. He paid for our sins at the cross. His blood speaks righteousness and forgiveness. Is has its physical effects but also spiritual to.

  97. Tony you can feel better regardless of what brought you to this point! No matter what made you sick be confident that you aren’t continuing to do things to keep you that way! You are making changes for the better and can get past this mentally and physically!

  98. Hello everybody , I smoked the garbage for two years and I’ve been off it for a year now. I don’t want to scare anyone but I don’t know if I’m out of the woods , I got some medical issues going on myself. I may get a little graffic here so here it goes. I been having this severe pain lasting for hours after I have a bowel movement. Went to a few doctors they call it a n anal fissure. They asked me if I was constipated and now I realize yes I was like a bastard and you know what I never had no problems like that before. I’ve read some stories from others saying the spice causes GI problems so maybe its from that, maybe it isn’t. When I say pain I mean PAIN. Its out of control. I’m having a colonoscopy done tomorrow. I’m scared as sh%t. FYI the prep for this procedure is awful to. Well that’s not all. My GP did a whole blood work and my testosterone came back really low like bad low. This info has now sent me over the edge. Someone else has wrote that to in this forum. Low T. Now I’m thinking my brain is fu%#ed. Its funny because for the past 8 months everything was going great and now I feel like I’m stuck in a hole. And all I do is regret my past. I’m not saying this is from the spice but who knows, I wouldn’t put it past it. I’m trying to stay calm and be a man but its tough if I don’t have any man in me anymore

  99. Ann, I don’t have any long term effects. I hope he does not either. It will take a couple weeks for him to be back to himself. I also watched my friends recover very quickly. I hope it’s the same for him. Please let me know when he has completely recovered. Still praying <3

  100. Thank you Russian Roulette! Addiction is a hard, long process for a lot of people. I’ve seen it too many times but with spice, it was on a whole other level that was terrifying to see him go through. He as well as I are thankful & lucky that he walked away. The moment of clarity was losing his family. Sometimes it takes more than that for addicts & I thank God that it wasnt that way for us. The recovery road is looking bright! Now we are just hoping & praying there are no long term effects.

  101. Thank you all for the prayers & comments. The day I posted my story, I ended up leaving. I didn’t want to but I felt I had no choice. I couldn’t drown with him. I couldn’t allow my family to drown. Leaving was my last straw to grasp… And it worked. We are working on making a happy home

  102. This is really crazy last night I smoked $exY monkey for the second time…It totaly gave me sensational feeling. Sensitive to touch Wow!!! And then all of a sudden I was going in and out of conciences. It scared the living daylights out of me. I had very surpressed breathing, mouth was very dry (dehydration) I had chills and was shaking like a leaf.. my toes and fingers were numb and I literally felt like a zombie honestly….I am lying in bed today exhausted reading these comments and hoping and praying I don’t have any long term side effects. I’m very scared to be honest…How can you legalize something like this? My friend thinks I had a seizure lastnight…

  103. Ann, Make him choose family or spice. You will never regret protecting your kids from this and he will thank you when you do get him to quit! I will pray for your family. He can be healthy and your family happy again. Pray, pray, pray. We’re all pulling for you!

  104. to Ann: You really should get your children out of this situation for safety’s sake. This drug is well known to cause the onset of mental issues including auditory and visual hallucinations as well as delusions. Trust me, I lived thru it with my son. He thought I was a demon, he thought his cousin was trying to hurt him, etc. etc. Don’t have a false sense of security thinking that he has never hurt the kids under normal circumstances, so he won’t now. Trust me, this can make him turn on a dime and you won’t know him.

  105. I don’t even know where to start this…
    My fiancé & I have been together now for two years. He has been smoking spice for 3 years. He told me when we got together that it helped him to relax & calm his bi-polar disorder & he also liked it because it didn’t show up on his drug screens he has to take randomly for work. I knew nothing about this stuff until I met him. Up until recently his smoking it didn’t bother me. He was just happy when he smoked it & after the rough life he has had, I couldn’t be mad at him being happy. Then things changed… They banned it in our state and took it out of all of the stores. I started to do research and I’ve read some pretty terrible things. I would read these horror stories to him and his only response would be that it had never done anything like that to him. So he kept smoking and I kept my mouth shut because after all, I wasn’t his mother, and a woman in my eyes is suppose to stand by their man. So I did. He would buy a 3.5 gram bag at the same time his other spice smoking friend would, but his would last all week compared to his friends only lasting 2 days. Then the place where they would go buy it got raided so it wasn’t readily available for at least 3 months. During this time he never showed any signs of withdrawl. Then one day he gets a phone call from a gut he works with saying that he knows where to go to get it. From this exact point on my whole outlook on him, on us, has changed. He was driving to sleezy motels known for drug activity to buy spice. Driving to other states to buy it. Then a headshop close to us started to sell spice called scooby snax. This only started a few months back & in the course of these few months I have come to feel helpless when it comes to trying to get him to see what he’s doing to himself & our family. He has literally spent over $600 in a months time on spice. I cannot take care of our family on my barely over minimum wage job by myself. He will take spice to work with him (where they randomly do drug screens) and not to mention his job is dangerous! He will sneak off & smoke some and come back looking like a pale zombified shell of himself. He will sit in the back room of the house & smoke it until he passes out. Sometimes for hours on end leaving me to worry about him & try to manage our household alone. He is now up to smoking 4 grams a day and all he does is stay passed out. And if he isn’t passed out he’s in the bathroom emptying his bowls constantly or throwing up. He sweats constantly…. To the point where I have taken it upon myself to put towels down on the bed so he doesn’t saturate the sheets. He becomes unresponsive, has irregular breathing and eats like a pig (to the point where we have nothing for the children to eat) the newest is that he woke me up in the early hours of yesterday morning telling me that he is freaking out because he is coughing up blood. Mind you, that we fight about his spice use EVERY day and he has told me several times he will not buy or smoke anymore if it means losing his family. So he wakes me up telling me this & then goes to smoke some more of it. That was my boiling point. We didn’t hardly talk at all yesterday except for him asking why I’m always causing drama between us. Today was no different. Today he went to buy some more, because his friend needed some too, or that was the excuse and it was an argument as soon as he returned home with it in hand. It was the same kind of fight… Him telling me that I need to calm down & that us fighting over it is stupid. Today, I go as far as to tell him that he’s continually pushing me further away & as I’m crying & telling him that I HATE what spice has done to us, our finances, to him, he slams the door to the bedroom where I am & goes to the living room to smoke some more. I’m at a loss on what to do. He’s in denial, I don’t know of a treatment center anywhere around here that I could afford along with taking care of all of our finances and I don’t want him to lose his job that he has been at for 17 years. He’s ruining his reputation along with every relationship he has. HELP.

  106. My fifteen year old nephew smoked syn marijuana this week and now has heart damage. The agents in the drug have cause permanent muscle damage to his heart and he will never be the same. He was an inspiring golfer and this drug has ruined his life.

  107. It is awesome to see how many people have escaped this drug and are helping others do the same! I thank God for my recovery and my friends as well. Anyone who is still using please quit! The cough that feels like fiberglass in your throat will never go away until you quit. It will creep down to your lungs painfully and stay! The chemicals affect your every organ you may experience other issues with heart, kidney or liver function. Your brain is greatly affected by this drug as well and you can’t always recover from that. Keep the happy recovery posts rolling and try to stay healthy everybody!

  108. To all of you talking about being diagnosed with Bi Polar disorder since smoking spice, I was to. Today a year being clean I am no longer experiencing any of the mental anguish I was a year and a half ago. Drugs in general (with the exception of real marijuana) will cause symptoms of mental defects. No medication will help, I don’t care what a doctor tells you, if you are smoking or using then you will keep being dependent on antidepressants, if you stop doing drugs you can get off of the medication, I know because I did. It is a horrible, horrible cycle, only you can make the choice to fight and be the person you were meant to be. That junk makes you feel worthless and that feeling will not go away until you stop and get help. If I can do it cold turkey, as hard as it is, then anyone can. I thought I was doomed for failure and now I know I am meant for something more then I ever gave myself credit for. You have to fight to come back from that abyss of darkness but you can do it with determination, Good luck to anyone who is fighting to stay clean, I am right there with you!

  109. I started smoking spice in early 2012 and stopped a year later. When I first started I swore it was harmless and I could easily pass drug tests, 2 months into it I had almost lost my mind. I quit my job and was in the emergency room every week with a horrible cough and thoughts of suicide. I left home, hurt myself over and over plus destroyed my family in the process. I didn’t realize it was the spice until I started having seizures. Every side effect I have read here I suffered from…and more. The night sweats, numerous bouts of extreme maddness, delusions, paranoia, coughing, waking up when I did sleep thru the night crying with numb arms and the non stop coughing that even caused me to break 2 ribs. It was horrible and one of the most addicting substances I have ever encountered. When I realized, in a moment of clarity, I was going to die if I did not stop. I had withdraw symptoms for months. I didn’t sleep for what seemed like months. I have been clean for a year as of Friday. I have just stared feeling normal in the last 3. I feel for anyone who is going thru the same but please stick with it and know that you will get thru it. I was so lucky I read horror stories daily of people dying I thank God I didnt. Please stay away from this crap and find help for loved ones who use. Good luck and prayers to everyone.

  110. On January 3, me and some friends smoked what we thought was just regular weed, but the person who dropped it off lied to us and actually gave us spice. It didn’t affect my friends like it did to me.. But To me “the weed” sort of off and I questioned it due to the fact that I have smoked ATLEAST 8 times before and I’m pretty sure I know it should look like. To me it was darkish green but I just shrugged it off and smoked. We had a dime of this stuff and there were 3 of us so we smoked it all. I noticed something was wrong when I forgot what conversation I was having with a friend and that everything seemed slow and my heart beat was the only thing I can feel. Yesterday was a month since it happened and I’m still having a dream like feeling, visual distortion, numbness (which makes me more scared) feelings that I’m someone else, and when I talk the sound of my voice doesn’t feel like I’m actually saying it..extreme anxiety due to the fact that I don’t feel like myself and just freak out because I don’t understand how things are happening and how I am a human and sleeping is not easy. I somewhat mix my dreams with reality since everything feels like a dream, and intense nightmares rage I’m having another trip.I just want to feel better. I’m only 15 and I just want to live my life normally Has anyone gone through this and got better like back to the way they were before smoking spice? If so please reply to this, it would give me the hope I need.

  111. Me and My fiancé started smoking spice or as we call it here pope about 9 months ago. At first we had enjoyed the high and it seemed to make us more talkative and happy. We smoked what they call “heavens grass” after about a month and a half of everyday use we had horrible side effects. We got violent towards one another and stayed constantly sick without it. so 7 months later after battling this devil, god opened our eyes thankfully and we decided to stop. The problem with that was sleep deprivation and violent puking and suicidal thoughts. The only thing that helped us fight through the withdrawls was benzodiazapines now I do not recommend someone get hooked on benzos to get off of spice but to battle the withdrawls it helps so so so so much. like valium, Xanax, adavan etc. I hope that this helps someone and if it does I have done my part.

  112. This stuff seems nothing like real weed. My husband,39 yrs old, started smoking synthetic weed (Diablo and Kush) a couple of months ago. He has all kinds of side effects-nausea, throwing up, constant bowel emptying, chills, hot flashAzizes, zombie like appearence, paranoia. Once, he got so bad he couldn’t keep anything down,not even water. He got so dehydrated that his muscles started to violently cramp due to lack of water,minerals and electrolytes. He got an IV at the hospital and some meds but that didn’t stop him from smoking. He stays in his room and smokes that shit 24/7, nothing else matters. He seriously reminds me of a zombie because of his physical appearance and state of mind. DON’T SMOKE THIS MAN MADE, EVIL, LIFE SUCKING, NOTHING LIKE WEED, CRAP.

  113. my boyfriend smokes this crap the synthetic weed back to back every single day and aft night he gets nauseated and starts vomiting could this also be causing the night sweats too

  114. if u r thinking about doing spice, DONT!!!! this is one of the worst thing I have ever done. I have been doing spice for about 4 yrs….I recently stopped because I was having these really bad hallucinations, panic attacks, anxiety attacks, u name it I have gone threw it….I have tried all kinds of spice. This has really ruined my life….I lost my friends, lost my family, everything that could go wrong went wrong. My mind is so messed up. I would lay in the bed and hear voices that told me to do things. One day I ran out of my house in my draws. Thats when I knew it was a problem….I dropped to my knees and prayed because I knew this was something greater than myself. Now that I have stopped I cant eat, I cant sleep, I sweat soooo much, im irritated, agitated, u name it I have gone thru it. Please please please do not do this…..please!!!!!!!!

  115. To Loco:
    Not to be rude, but have you even read this blog? 95% of the people on here are telling you their near death stories (and the other 5% just haven’t had the privilege of experiencing the horror yet). This stuff is chemicals made by workers in factories who could give a shit less if you die. Did you know you could get high on rat poison? Or bug spray? Oh, it will definitely kill you, but you’ll get a buzz if you spray it on your weed before it starts killing your body. I smoked this stuff for over a year, and I am completely terrified that when I get pregnant my child will come out with something wrong with it.
    So…1. Yes its harmful to your sperm cells. Its in your system. It hasn’t been widely studied yet, so no one knows the actual damage it can cause. Why risk it?
    2. If its just a few puffs, it won’t be in your system too long. But one puff of the wrong batch might kill you. Why risk it?
    3. That depends on your personality. But if you look into something thats obviously killing people, and wanting to still smoke it because you can’t find real weed, it seems like you have an addictive personality. So to answer your question, yes, probably. This stuff gave me the greatest high ever for a year before I got the wrong batch. Now I’m on panic attack medication and am just not normal anymore.
    Honestly, I would rather do cocaine or heroin if I cant find weed before this stuff any day.
    But anyway, went to the eye doctor and they didn’t see anything wrong with my eyes, or signs of ms, so my next step is getting an mri on my brain. I’m really scared to see it, but if its reversible i want to catch it early. Just an update. DON’T SMOKE SPICE!!!!!!!

  116. Essentially what the problem with spice is is that unlike marijuana there are no cannabis receptor regulators so to speak, which take the place of CBD’s in marijuana and whose presence is nil in spice. Basically what this means is that when you smoke spice there is nothing regulating the amount of synthetic thc going into those receptors. That is why the dosage is so important. The wrong dose and you could be in a world of hurt. I remember I smoked 4 bowls of Nightmare revisited out of a bong and felt like my world was ending. I thought I was dying, for real. It was horrifying. Worst of all I was trapped in a 20square foot room for the duration of the trip because I was at my house with my parents. I would say the worst thing about spice is the ignorance of the users. No one who is using it has any idea what they are dealing with. People think that it is safer than weed because the smell is more concealable, or because it doesn’t make you look stoned (it makes you look cracked out, retards) but this is simply not the case. It is this ignorance that has killed and taken the lives of many while they attempt to drive their cars under the influence of spice. They thought they could handle it. They were wrong.

  117. Hey am michael and am a new user to this type of staff i live in sweden i have used before Xtc, hash, weed ,cocaine, buzz , but am new to this chemical weed the staff called vanilla forst or sunshine vanilla 5F-AKB-48 .i decided to smoke from this staff just as weekends and jut couple of puffs . since i cant find the real weed. and so boring so so nothing to do well my questions is.
    1- those couple puffs harm the sperm cells ?
    2- And how much does ur body need to be clean before you decide to make love and bring a baby ?
    3- does this couple puffs make you addicated ?

    Am so worried and dont know what to do please someone help

  118. I really do feel bad for you guys…. I was diagnosed with a severe panic disorder (my seratonion isnt always level) and these symptoms of sudden fear, and dying and thinking your dying are what i used to have all the time, FOR NO REASON ! I dealt with this for many years and now is finally under control, im 42 now. But to actually continue to take something that makes you feel this way? (those of you who continue to do this) that is just REALLY insane.There is no way i would even allow myself to CRAVE this mess……and believe me i have had a time even with pills, so i know what craving means…..I say a prayer for all of you battling this.

  119. Have not read anything on the blog in quite awhile, but after reading many of your stories today, just have to remind you of something I did not see mentioned in what I read. Not only can and will you have severe physical symptoms, but some of you will suffer from severe mental disabilities. My grandson pretty much lost his mind and had to be taken to a mental hospital where he stayed for two months. Once he was stabilized, they sent him home. He was far from well I promise you. At the time he was 26 or 27 years old and when he returned he had the mind of possibly a ten year old. He laughed at everything whether it was appropriate or not. He talked absolute nonsense, his anxiety was terrible. If you even coughed around him, he immediately became concerned and wanted to know if you were all right. His entire personality changed. He was very sweet, pleasant to be around, etc., except that wasn’t his normal attitude. He followed his Mother everywhere she went for over a year and didn’t want to be alone. I could go on and on, but you get the point. He was going to college at the time, studying computer programming and also holding down a part-time job. Had to quit both. We thought his mind was gone for good, but after nearly eighteen months there is some light at the end of the tunnel. He seems to be returning to “normal”, even though there are issues that continue. He is starting back to school in a couple of weeks so we will see if he is able to study and comprehend enough to be able to pass the courses. I beg you not to continue to take the chance that this could happen to you. Not only does it destroy your life, but takes a terrible toll on whatever family is willing to help you. It is just not worth it. Good luck to all of you.

  120. Kevin I agree with you but the only reason they wont do it federally is because they would have to legalize Hemp. And anyone that knows about Hemp also knows it would replace the oil industry world wide as its the number one most abundant fuel source on the planet. Not to mention the most abundant source for all plastics. I think we are making progress with pot but we need to legalize hemp and end every war in the world over oil and resources.

  121. I am fifteen years old, and mixed between black, white, and Mexican . I smoked the Demon synthetic weed a few times, the first few times with my best friend and her boyfriend, and the highs were incredible, so I asked my best friend to give me a little weed for the road, and she did . I made one of those handmade bowls that kinda suck but work nonetheless . The stoned part would only last an hour, but the high-ness would stay in my system till the next day . The last time I smoked it, which was last night, I must’ve smoked more than I could handle, because as soon as it set in good, I experienced this smashing headache that felt like my brain was being brutally murdered . It wasn’t the typical pain in a usual headache, either . It was like a very high pitched ringing that got closer and closer until some unknown pressure smashed my brain together and it would make me scream … it was so bad that I wasn’t sure if I would make it through the night and was contemplating calling 911 . I told my boyfriend to call me because I was crying hysterically and nothing I did would make it go away–fresh air, cold shower, eating, drinking water, milk, juice, running . All I could do was cry and hold my head and pray to God for mercy . It came around 7:30 and lasted a good four hours before there was any relief at all . Every time I would start to go to sleep, it would start to come back . I eventually fell asleep and the headache is gone for the most part, but there is still a slight headache that will hopefully go away soon . I am quitting weed, at LEAST fake weed, because of that death defying experience .

  122. All of these stories that i have read just make me re-iderate what i have been saying since the age of 7. As an avid pot smoker they need to FEDERALLY LEGALIZE MARIJUANA. Because this state to state BULLSHIT is just pissing everyone off. I have tried that fake crap and it taste like shit and smells like shit. Obviously, if it is having an adverse affect on the majority of users than they should legalize marijuana. Colorado profits 1.4 billion annually and pot there has only been legal for 7 months. Washington profits 1.8 billion annually. Michigan profits 2.4 billion annually. California profits 12.7 billion annually. And if we are so concerned about getting out of debt all we have to do is LEGALIZE MARIJUANA

  123. Mark yes its a diuretic and will destroy your appetite. You will lose weight as i did. It will effect you intestines your lungs and your whole nervous system. Get off of it its poison and i also went to the doctor to have perfect results. But in time those results will change. The reason i beleive they come back clean is because they only do the basic blood work. I feel it would take a more in depth study to see what the real damage is. A lot of things get untreated and misdiagnosed form that blood work. Its not a detect all test. Just the major issues.

  124. Ive made posts on here trying to defend the synthetics and ive come back to tell you how wrong i was. For 2 years i smoked chems everyday and have now been clean for over a year. The first month i quit i felt like i was dying. It was like an opiate withdrawal. Since then ive had lung issues and nerve problems. I hack up black phlegm everyday and it never seems to get better. I was a big distributor and made some good money till one day i ran into someone who was really strung out on it and it dawned on me I needed to stop selling this garbage. I fell on my face and cried out to God to help me. I heard His voice tell me to walk away from the business and that he would take care of the rest. 3 times i heard Him say this and so I did. I threw all my product away called all my customers and told them i was out for good and gave up a sizable income with no means for a job or money. God came through and realy blessed me for walking out on faith. He has done wonders in my life as i have had many health problems since using these drugs. He has healed me from gall bladder issues to liver and kidney problems. Now i dont expect you all to believe me nor did i come here to convince you all of anything. All I can say Is Jesus showed me the truth of this poison and now i will never have anything to do with it again. I pray you all come to the same decision I did and walk away from it for good. Its the devils drug and it will eventually kill you if you let it.

  125. Poisonous manufactured chemicals that never contained that force science can’t ever explain; LIFE.
    We have ‘receptors’ for natural canabis, we evolved here together on this beautiful planet, over millions of years.
    To have blind Religion, Politics, sound Economic ‘practices’ and ignorant laws literally put this manmade poisonous death into the hands of millions of healthy people who just want to relax, meditate and commune with friends without being arrested, charged, tested & fired (don’t get paranoid will you!).
    Makes me ashamed to be Human, and it makes our world a sick, sick place.
    This is seriously the time to call again for decriminalisation, world wide.
    Not ONE MORE DEATH from this foul aberration.
    Governments: Your draconian canabis laws are now killing people- driving them mad.
    There is no conspiracy, just blind ignorance and fear of losing power.
    Now, canabis really isn’t for everyone, but jeez neither is racing.
    (I don’t mind a little adrenaline now and again- or is THAT natural chemical now on some banned class 1 list!!!!).
    We all run on chemicals-or drugs-or compounds-or substances,, what’s in a word?.. Anyways, I need a coffee.

  126. Hi
    Is it HPPD? I was told by a guy how knows a lot about HPPD that eye floaters should be taken of the list of HPPD symptoms, because many people have them. I have a lot of web-type floaters for sure. I am sure these were caused by stress and extreme anxiety about the state of my health before they popped up. The slight static I see seems to be white blood cells. Any more ideas folks?

  127. To answer your question, though, yes, I too have minor HPPD. Its far from the worst of my symptoms and even if I have visual snow and an abundance of floaters for the rest of my life I can live with that. If you aren’t cursed with difficulties with speech and memory, count yourself lucker and learn to love the floaters.

  128. Hi folks, Yeah stress, hypochondria and anxiety more than likely caused the eye floaters. I don’t think I am able for the real weed also. I have took one pull from small joints with minuscule amount of weed and I can just about handle that. Can’t deal with the paranoia and the fear from the stuff.

  129. I have experienced dramatic and unwanted weight loss that coincides exactly with the time I started smoking spice. I no longer smoke it (about six weeks). Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this side effect. I have been to my doctor and have had a full blood workup. All results show excellent health, except I have low testorone and am receiving successful treatment for it. Thanks to anyone who can respond to this e-mail! – Mark C.

  130. My last post was in August of 2012, but I didn’t completely stop smoking this until December 2012. After having a panic attack off spice, I thought that if I cut my intake down to just one hit a day, I could still smoke just a little without really bad side effects. But it didn’t work out that way. I found myself just fighting the panic. It was counter-productive to get high but be miserable. Since I stopped smoking this completely, I feel so, so, so much better. I can almost say I’m back to normal. I still have anxiety, and my vision is worse than it used to be. Especially when driving. It almost feels like I’m going to have a panic attack while I’m driving. I’m worried that spice may have triggered an onset of epilepsy or MS. I started smoking real pot when I got off probation in January, and that seemed to really help. The first time I smoked pot after smoking spice, I had an anxious high, but it felt okay. Now when I smoke pot, its a good, normal high. Sometimes I’ll get a little wave of paranoia, but I think that is normal. I also take clonazepam, which really makes me feel back to normal. I just don’t want to have to be on this medication forever.

    @Garret
    I have the eye floaters, too. Eye floaters can be caused by stress. I think that when I smoked the spice, I put my brain through a lot of stress, which may have caused them. It would feel like my brain was inflating in my skull, so I may have popped some blood vessels or something. I have not gone to an eye doctor yet, but I am in the process of making an appointment. I think a lot of it is the anxiety, because it makes me notice things and worry about them. The anti-anxiety meds help with all of my symptoms.

  131. @ Garret – I have the same thing, Eye floaters..Problem is though I have always had those due severe headaches. After i smoked the legal herb which was back in Jan of this year It has got alot worse. With no headache now.. I have not smoked legal herb since January, I am so much better now, I can finally smoke real weed without feeling the side effects that i once did feel with the legal herb.. Although my headaches has increased drastically ( Feels like my head is about too burst open ) feeling..

    I have a question. Did anyone ever felt the melting feeling in the brain after smoking the legal herb.. Like at first your hands and feet will go numb, Then youll feel heart palpations, then my brain seriously felt like it was melting like water just flowing threw my body. I couldnt move, Then i couldnt see…

  132. Did anybody develop Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder (HPPD) from this substance. I’m not even taking full blown HPPD; but instead mild variations such eye floaters, static or visual snow as it is called in the trade. I also dabbled(small amounts) with real weed so can’t really pin point what caused my very prominent eye floaters and mild static. I think the static is just the white blood cells jumping around. The real and the fake weed left me with a lot of anxiety after I put it down. A correlation between anxiety, stress and eye floaters has been found.
    Can anyone identify with me?
    Thanks.

  133. I am sorry to all of you who are having a hard time quitting or are still addicted to this! I feel soo much better since I quit. You can do it! If you have anxiety and or depression I recommend that you get rx from your doctor for that before quitting so you can cope with it. I don’t smoke or do any other drugs or drink. I had no substitute so I stayed very busy volunteering more and exercising to keep my mind off of it. Take your life back and be confident and healthy again you are worth it! Come back and tell us when you have and how you did it.

  134. I have been smoking “spice” for nearly 2 years. I am experincing some of the listed symptoms, including nausea and vomiting. I have also experienced significant weight loss. Wondering if the weight loss can be attributed to spice use. I am quitting as of this post, but want to know if anyone else has experienced unwanted weight loss. Thanks for your time. – Mark

  135. I am a 32 year old female. I have been smoking marijuana since I was 19. Some friends introduced the legal weed to me about 18 months ago and I am having the hardest time trying to quit.

    I am also bi-polar and suffer from depression. I feel this makes it so much harder to stop, it truly makes me able to “cope” with my racing mind, dpression, etc. I overcame a pill addiction by completing rehab in Nov 2010. I smoke Bizarro and it is has been harder to quit than ANY narcotic I have been addicted to.

    I also experienced negative side effects and worry for my life: Coughing with a horrible white flem, very sick of a morning (I throw up every morning), memory loss, my attitude is SO terrible unless I smoke it, I have ZERO appetite if I don’t smoke it, I no longer can get high from marijuana, etc.

    I am so ashamed of myself for getting addicted to something that is “legal” after my long road of recovery from pill/drug addiction. I am scared and not sure I can beat this. I do not want to talk to family about it, because I feel unless you’ve been there, one cannot understand.

    Not to mention how expensive and inconvinient it is; have to drive an hour and fifteen minutes (one way) to purchase it because its not legal in my state. If I run out, I will scrape my pipes to get some resin so that I get a liitle high, and to cure the restlessness and aggitation my body has without it.

    I feel powerless to it. It controls my life. Terrible stuff. Run from it!!

  136. I have to tell you this stuff is very scary my boyfriend and his friends have been smoking this stuff every night for the last month and it had gotten up to four to five bowls a night……….Well, tonight we had just got new things to smoke out of and so him and his friends started smoking…… Mind you i have been telling him for ever not to smoke that crap i smoke the real stuff ok so back to what i wanted you guys to hear….. so my boyfriend had just took a few good hits on the second bowl i was getting water the next thing i know they are telling me to look at him and i did and he had vomited and was passed out sitting up so i had to put him on the ground and get him to throw up and he did for a few minutes then he just went limp. he had stop breathing and he had no pulse for a few seconds i had got cold water and was pouring it on him and he started to come back to me but had to keep pouring water on him to keep him breathing. we got him to his feet and he was dazed and was acting weird he got in the shower to come together he is ok now but i was talking to him after and he said he has never experienced anything like that ever and it was the worst feeling in his life. he told me when we got him to his feet and he was looking at us that he didn’t remember who we were. i have never been so scared in my life please for your family and loved ones stop smoking this stuff. smoke weed if you have too.

  137. I used to smoke Mr. Nice Guy on the reg and, at the time, it was awesome. Then I switched to Down to Earth Climax, and that was even better. Both were fantastic when I was drunk and smoked and I thought I had found my solution to smoking and passing a drug test. One night, I came back from the bar and smoked with a couple of good friends on my patio. Two hits and I was flying, so I figured why not hit it again. Big fuckin mistake. I felt like I wasn’t in control of what I was doing. My buddies were talking and I thought they were taking turns talking in order to mess with and prove a point that I was retarded. WHAT?! I asked them both about it a few days later and, according to them, they were having a casual conversation and i just ran away. I still don’t feel the same mentally after that night. I am extremely paranoid and I feel like other people are in my head sometimes. Before smoking spice, I had never had any sort of problem in social situations. Now, I feel like everyone is out to get me and it’s horrible. I don’t know if anyone else has similar feelings post-spice, but any input would be swell.

  138. Anonymous – Im sorry, But how you are stating that most of the people on here is just telling lies, is completely wrong of you to do so. What i experience was real and terrifying. Im the other Anonymous who stated passing out with eyes wide open, etc etc.. You wasnt there to see these people go threw what they experienced. So before you judge you need to look at their point also. My doctor also stated that this stuff has killed teens also.. So your research wasnt too good at all. Lack of facts what you got. And just because you didnt go threw what some of us went threw dont mean you wont.. I can no longer smoker real weed, due to the synthetic weed.. Some people yes, Can handle this.. yet a few cant. this stuff is more potent then the real marijuana, And it can cause Seizures, Cardic arrest, hallucination, Coma, confusion, Headaches, nausea and even death.. Just another skeptic that dont believe our stories on what happen to us. I posted my truth on here to show people this stuff is legit bad for your health and mental health.. Now if you dont believe us, Why would you even read it or even post something on here?. I may miss understood your blog, but i took it, That you dont believe our horrible experience.

  139. Unknown that is great to hear! I know you will keep improving and feel better again soon! Wanda, I think it will take at least a couple weeks. Just bear with it. If he will see a dr that is good. Just sleep it off for as long as possible. He will get over it! Praying for his health and well being.

  140. Russian Roulette –
    Thank you. I’m getting better day by day.. First couple of weeks has been horrible… I’m now experiencing severe hallucation’s. But the heart problems has finally just became the past. :).

    To those who is still addicted you must get off of it, I understand its hard but you must for your health and your mental state.. The addiction will finally pass.. took me a week to finally to get pass that feeling of needing it.. Talk to your doctor they will help you :). My doctor helped me and she didn’t put in the notes..

    If you don’t you will feel like how I felt… hating myself and felt so stupid.. My bipolar did not help.. But I have over came it..

  141. Unknown,
    I hope you recover quickly. That is a terrifying experience! If you wait a while and choose to go back to pot you may have lost your over-tolerance from legal. I wish you the best and pray for your health.

  142. how long does it take to get over the dt of this drug a friend of mine is trying to stop using but feels so agitated and stressed . he is trying to hold out until it is out of his system but is struggling. how long will he feel this way and what can i do to help him

  143. Im a 27 year old female, I was a user of marijuana for years and never experienced what I experienced from the synthetic marijuana. I should have trusted my instincts but which I decided to say screw lets try.. I didn’t do much research about this mysterious new drug so I didn’t much about it. When I first tried it I threw up, So I stopped using and went back to real marijuana and everything was just wonderful. Now January is the month that I will never forget. I bought this stuff called ” Orgazmo Inscense” I took like large amounts of the stuff cause my body had become use to the stuff so I had to take bigger amounts to even get that high feeling from it. ( first bad experience from it ) Luckily I had people with me. They said I had fallen backwards and fallen asleep with my eyes wide open and did not respond no one. What I felt was like I was a machine like no one was even real, I could not Feel nothing. I felt like I was in a dream. I could hear tons of people talking but couldn’t see anyone. I remember them saying numerous of times saying ” You must go back to your body, and I kept on saying there is no such thing as humans are they?” I seriously went beyond reality, I felt like I understood how the world actually worked like a computer simulation. When I was coming too, I felt so different since then, Ive done numerous research on how is humans even real etc etc. and I have found stuff that made go what? Leaving with questions like did i die and actually witness on how we actually feel when we die.. I do have many websites that had confirm what i felt was actually real.

    Now on January 23rd at night, I was so depressed where i didn’t want to be alive anymore, I couldn’t handle the every day stress that life was throwing at me.. So again I smoked a pipe after a pipe after a pipe… You get the hint. but didn’t get high what so ever.. I once more got Very tired. So i laid down, Then the next thing I felt like was these waves coming from my heart ( Like butterfies ) I felt really hot and the burning pain in my head. I wasn’t scared though :?, I had such severe pain coming from my stomach is unbelievable ( I have overdose once before but this was 100x more painful ) I heard this saying ” relax “, So weirdly i said to myself relaxed, Now that is where it got even weird and strange for me. It started from toes and up my head, Waves of numbness where i could no longer feel the pain from my stomach.. There was this warm blanket feeling that came over me, I was really relaxed, TOO much relaxed. All i could feel was that burning pain in my head. Then I seriously saw my what it seems was my life flash right before me very rapidly but also clear. I was not scared. Then this flash of light happen, That’s when I heard this voice saying ” You gotta get Up now,Your dying” I opened my eyes and it felt like was that my heart had stopped and I was slowly passing away.. What it felt like was someone shaking my leg, I immediately felt the pain again, It took me a couple seconds ( to me it felt like forever ) to jump up and try to get my blood moving to get my heart going.. I felt this painful jolt in heart asif it had stopped and my breathing was extremely fast asif i did not breathe at all for that 20 mins, Too me it felt for a long time but it was 20 mins. I started shaking and i was sweating bad.. The next morning the same effects happen once more but this time I felt like I was melting. I cant really describe it but i felt like my soul was trying to leave my body, when i looked at my bed i got the flash blacks and i said oh my god. I looked at my pillow where my head was and it had a big stain from me drooling. If that is what death feels like its relaxing and calm. I did not want to get up. But what i don’t get is, if i did how come Im here alive and remember everything pretty much?.

    I can no longer smoke the real marijuana anymore, I cant get high anymore and its all because of that legal shit !!.

    Now the symptoms i have now is : Heart palpations, Fatigue, Severe headaches, Blurriness sometimes, Neck and back pain, numbness waves that comes from the chest and stomach area. left arm weakness..

    Ive searched up so much of this synthetic marijuana and i cant find anything like what happen to me. Unless they just don’t say.
    I don’t get how the government don’t legal marijuana it has never killed anyone and its use for “Medical” I no longer smoke the synthetic marijuana it seriously scares the crap out of me..

    Real marijuana never did.. but now in a way it does..

    ” Man made kills, God made never kills”

  144. Patrick, I am soo sorry this drug has ruined your life. It has done this to soo many people. I am sorry to everyone here who’s life has been torn apart. May God bless you with strength to quit and encourage others to quit. I pray that this is made illegal and completely unavailable. Peace, love, happiness and good health to all.

  145. Rannonymous smoking “once in a blue moon” wont cause you to have withdraw symptoms. You have to smoke several times every day to even have a chance at getting withdraws. Even then not everyone does. We should consider ourselves fortunate. I didn’t have withdraws but I still want to smoke occasionally just as you with pot right? The word “addictive personality” is a misnomer. Your soul isn’t addicted your body and mind are. It’s a chemical thing.

  146. Hello everyone. Let me start my story. About 3 years ago I was a single father of 3. I had always struggled with drug use my whole adult life while taking care of them. I lost my kids in sept2010 becuz of a random drug test I had failled, and they went to live with there mother. So I was than put in a drug program becuz there was a possibility that I would get them back being that their mother had issues herself that she had to fix(it wasn’t drug related though) While in the program someone there told me about spice and how it wouldn’t show up in the urine test. I had been smoking weed for so long I Thought I couldn’t stop smoking so I tried the spice so I wouldn’t show up dirty on my piss test. Well, I wasn’t dirty, and I eventually finished the program, but only becuz I was using the spice instead of weed. After the program I went back to weed, only to find that it didn’t make me high anymore,not at all. Turns out the spice was so strong that I lost the taste for weed. So I started using spice again. And thats when things started FALLING APART. I had got addicted to it to the point were I was stealing from work(I was working at Walmart at the time) to support my habit. I started not paying my rent on time, eventually I started not paying it at all. Between giving my kids mother money for the kids, rent, living expenses and my drug use, I found myself not being able to do them all. So the landlord put me out, and I moved in with my cousin. Things started out o.k. at first but then I eventually started using more and more spice, The more I used the less money I had. So I started stealing like crazy at work just so I could have money to smoke more spice. Even with the side-effects,(paranoia, sleepness nights, extreme depression and fear for no reason,dizziness at times, headaches,etc.) I still had to have a few grams of spice a day! I had never been hooked on any drug like this before, and I’ve done coke, ex, mollys, and alcohol. Well wouldn’t you guess it? I just got fired Thursday. While they were firing me I got a call from my son who was living with his mother and the other kids. Guess what? They needed money becuz his mom lost HER JOB a month earlier and all her savings ran out. So now I’m jobless and so is she. I was allready broke before I got the call because I spent all my money on, yep you guessed it, SPICE! Now what am I gonna do? Cuz dispite all of this I still want to smoke. And the place where I get my spice from credits me when I don’t have any money, which is making things worse becuz I can get it anytime I want with or without money. Well, I now owe them 375 dollars, and I have no job. So I guess I won’t be paying them back, right? But now how am I gonna get more spice if I don’t pay them back what I owe them? They’re the only store that sells it in my part of town becuz they are supposed to be banned. With all that has happened in past few months you would think I would want NOTHING to do with spice right? Well, thats how I know I’m addicted.I NEED HELP!!! Please don’t try that drug. IT IS ADDICTIVE!!!!! I wish I could go back in time and never used it. I lost my job becuz of it, and I was at Walmart for 6 years. Never did I steal from my job for weed, coke or anything else even though I was hooked on those things too. I have to get my life back in order, but I’m afraid I don’t know how. Please pray for me to be strong enough to kick this addition for my kids, and take my advice:NEVER TRY SPICE!!!!!!!!!! ONCE AGAIN, IT’S ADDICTIVE!!!!!!!!! Peace

  147. Hi Garret,

    I am not sure about the floaters as my son never told me he had that. But the anxiety and depression will eventually subside. This synthetic stuff binds to your cell in a different way than marijuana and for alot longer. After you smoke pot, as you are probably aware, you will still test positive for it for about a month or so. Thats because it is still in your cells. This stuff needs to leave your system, but it takes a while. Have you seen a doctor? I would strongly suggest you see one for a mild anti-depressive to help you while the spice leaves your system. It helped my son. He is off of all meds now, working full time, new gf, new friends (who dont smoke). There IS a light at the end of the tunnel for you. Because this stuff is so new the doctors dont know alot about it yet, but they do know that it causes anxiety and depression that lasts after you stop smoking it. I hope this helps you, and of course, if I can answer any other questions (based on my sons experience) to assist you I am happy to do it.

  148. Hi
    I still have the prominent eye floaters and some depersonalization maybe due to the floaters. Would anxiety cause you to see them more? I had anxiety for along time after bad experience. To Christy above, when you say my symptoms will subside, did you also mean the floaters?
    Maybe I’m still depressed?

  149. i have i smoke every once or twice in a blue moon its possible u have an addctive personality i dont have symptoms or withdraw im even trying to get consent for medicinal marijuana cause it helps my adhd and add plus it helps my insomnia so i have never had a problem prolly never will the last time i smoked was over a week ago not having any problems or withdrawls.

  150. To rannonymous – I am glad you have not been affected so far, but please don’t make the mistake of believing that your situation cannot change. My grandson is also bi-polar and has had problems with alcohol and smoking pot. His bad experiences included being sent to a Youth Dentention Center when he was younger. Even though his medical information was sent with him, as well as the names of the drugs he had been taking for a long time to control his bipolar condition, this facility took him off his meds – cold turkey. He started going downhill almost immediately, doing all kinds of crazy things, including trying to drown himself in a toilet bowl. Rather than recognize that he was ill, they sent him to a very bad prison where he was treated horribly. To make a long story short, when we found him, they had just sent him to the State mental hospital where he was diagnosed with severe schizophrenia. They told us he would never recover. Thank God, he did, eventually. However, as time passed and he got out, he started smoking pot again while he was on probation and was sentenced to two years in prison. This was a pretty horrible time. You would think by then he would have learned his lesson, but he had not. When he learned about the “synthetic marijuana” and it was legal at a gas station near his home, he started smoking it. At the time he was working and going to college. However, his behavior began to deteriorate over the summer to the point that his Mother was afraid of him. She finally had to call his probation officer and ask him to come and get him. They took him to a local hospital and he was completely psychotic. He was transferred to another State mental hospital where he stayed six weeks as they tried to stabilize him. When his Mother and I visited him we were just devasted at the mental condition he was in and the violent behavior he was exhibiting. After he was released he went back to his parents home and has been there ever since. That has been a year and three months now. His mind had been reduced to that of a child, even though he was 27 years old. He has recovered to an extent, but after trying to start school again, he is unable to concentrate long enough to do the work. The doctors have no idea if he will ever regain his mental status again and he recently was approved for something – SSI i believe, as he had not worked long enough to qualify for disability. So, he has been reduced to living on $700 a month somewhere. His future is gone as far as an education, a job, the possibiity of a wife and children, etc. As his grandmother, this has nearly killed me watching him like this. Of course, it has pretty much destroyed his family. So, I have told you all of this in hopes that you, and others on here who do not believe that smoking synthetic marijuana can hurt you, will see what it can do to you. It didn’t hapen the first time he smoked it, but I believe he was doing it all summer and just getting more and more psychotic. He suffers from extreme anxiety and paranoia and other things. Please, please, for your own sake and the sake of your families, do not start smoking this poison and if you are already doing it, make every effort to get off before something terrible happens to you. May God bless all of you and watch over you, especially those who are suffering and those who are trying to stop.

  151. Anyone who thinks you aren’t addicted and have no side effects I challenge you to quit all legal and everything for a few days and see if you have withdraws or can EVER stop thinking about the next high. Please come back and share your story.

  152. The maker of JWH was right about the Russian roulette thing. I used to smoke marijuana. I quit about 5yrs ago. A couple years ago a friend introduced me to spice. The first time I felt extremely paranoid and it was a little calmer after that. I continued smoking for several months. Different kinds had different effects headaches, nausea, paranoia, anxiety but one thing remains the same I still want to smoke! I quit months ago. It is highly addictive and consumes your mind you want to smoke constantly because most highs wear off quickly. A few months ago I smoked “Black Magic” with a friend and I was violently ill, threw up for hours, had a fever, sweats and was in and out of consciousness. They were afraid I was going to die at one point when I was blacking out and sweating. I am lucky they didn’t rush me to the ER. This stuff is harmful. My friend is still smoking it and has been for years and she always has a horrible cough and many health problems that were non-existent before this. I am shocked that someone tested positive for meth after using it but IDK why it makes perfect sense that something soo addictive with horrific effects would contain that substance or something chemically similar. The high was awesome I have to admit and I still want to do it but I like my life. I still haven’t gone back to pot and am not smoking synthetic either. Sadly every day I watch my friend get sicker on this and I fear it is doing substantial long term damage to her lungs and organs. Honestly if you want to get high just smoke the real thing it is natural and at least you know what’s in it. Please stay healthy. Like the creator of JWH said this is a game of Russian roulette. Is the high worth your health?

  153. Spice is not as bad as people make it out to be. No one knows the long term effects but ive been smoking spice for almost 4 years now. I smoke at the lest 5 grams a day. Its highly addictive but no severe consequences like mental problems, Nausea, Ect. like everyone says. Dont listen to all these websites.There wack. I know from exsperence. So many people wouldnt be smoking spice if weed was legal.

  154. i have not experienced any side effects i seem much calmer and more relaxed have not had any problems and i have a ton of mental issues this actually takes the pain away from my body it is somr kind of muscle relaxer at first i would always eat but now im more than fine i enjoy my high and im still in a very good state of mind maybe i had a good batch ive been working on the same batch for over a year now it doesn’t bother me i use a one-hitter take about three drags cant inhale much in one hit and two hours later im back to normal i sleep fine i can remember everything dont know why everyone else has probs but im more than fine smoked this stuff since 2010 an not an addict either smoke once to twice in a blue moon

  155. i have tried the legal weed and i dont experience none of this sickness anyone else experience i dont know if its cause i have bipolar or adhd but it keeps me calm

  156. My son age 42 has been smoking spice for about 3 or mre months. He is way out of control, he has hallucinations and does not think it’s the spice. he has history of drug abuse and been clean for several yrs. I.m really scared for him and do not know what to do ! he has lost so much weight and looks bad. Please Don’t use this it is no good for any one !!!!!!.

  157. I am a recovering addict, I’ve been through it all.
    It started as me trying the stuff with my new boyfriend.
    And then it became a weekly thing.. then a daily.. then an hourly…
    My boyfriend at the time had a good friend by the name of Chad, and we started hanging out with him a lot more once we started smoking, the reason was that he made spice for our local head shop. He would (and still does) Order chemicals off line and then plant matter and synthesize it all with acetone.. once me and my ex (at this point, happy and in love) started smoking his stuff we started spending all our time at his house. we Spent all our money on spice, we didnt even eat. eventually, we lost our apartment because the thought of “paying rent” never crossed our minds when we got payed, it was “Go to chads house and get messed up” our friend lived in an RV behind our local head shop with his two dogs and girlfriend and her son, and thats where me, and always at least 5 other people would load bowl after bowl after bowl of the stuff out of bins our friend had made. We smoked so much… I wouldnt be exagerating if I said we smoked ten grams a day. It got to the point about a year later where we were living outside of the headshop in a tent with multiple other addicts in the subdivision around the head shop. all of them avid spice smokers, it ranged from teenagers to 70 year old men. all we did was walk around like zombies asking if someone had a bowl, or a cigarette, or some food. we had a little tent city where everyone lived, and we were all “Content” We smoked, and smoked and smoked, a good friend of mine lost her son because she was so high she couldnt move when his father was taking the kid out of her home. she never saw him again. after about 6 months of this, Our friend moved into his own house and made his own, lets say “labratory” and me and my ex moved in. There were Gallon sized bags of these chemicals, there were hundreds of gram bags filled with different colered chemicals that we used to make our drug.. we didnt know what they were besides the lable on the bag, jwh-018, hu-210 etc.. We just knew that it got us high. we lived with him and made spice, sold it to the local headshops and even kids. I have sold a bag of spice that was triple dosed to a 12 year old kid.. I will never forgive myself. it got to the point about 3 months later where we stopped making spice..our friend had lost his job at the head shop for un-related reasons. we stopped making spice and started smoking the chemicals on cigarettes.. or just plain bowls of it. out of bubbles, any way we could do it. normal “spice” wouldnt do it for us. we stopped getting high.. smoked more and more and more.. a good friend of ours who was also in the spice making game, and was starting to get to our level, selling his stuff to the local head shops.. killed himself with a ten gram bag of “demon” on his chest, with full and empty bags of chemicals littering his home. it all started to go down hill.. me and my ex couldnt afford the chemicals after he died.. he was our connection.. we went through our last 20? I think bags of chemicals and had not payed rent in months.. we got kicked out of our home and our loving relationship had turned into “If I cant get us high, the other can” we moved into a vacant trailer that was dilapitated and Condemned.. we lived far from town and started living off of un-employment because we couldnt function in society doing day to day things like making burgers. or standing in line. every time we got paid, it was a rush to the head shop. which closed thirty minutes after we got paid, and a 45 minute drive from our home and we would always make it. sometimes we would run out of gas because of the excitement and he would run. worry about gas later. after a while, about a year of this pathetic living off of unemployment our relationship ended violently, not because we didnt love eachother. because we werent high. when we werent high we hated the world and everything around us, we were bitter and resentful to the thought of anything that didnt have something to do with getting high,(weed, did NOT get us high anymore, regardless of how much we smoked) He went right back to a tent out side of the headshop, I willingly followed. I have gotten and lost around five jobs since then, lost every friend I ever had, I lost my family, I lost my innocence, I lost my mind, and the love of my life. We lived together around the head shop for a while.. not going into detail but it didnt last long. all we would do was get high and when we werent high we hated eachother. I sat those three months in my little atco unit, being completely surrounded by spice addicts, my walls were so thin I had to start using matches to smoke my spice, alone. because if I used a lighter the whole neighborhood knew and they were knocking at my door. I have seen a husband and wife live in a van with two dogs and a 16 year old son. they destroyed that able and willing boys mind. he used to be willing and motivated, excited about life. and now all he worries about is getting high. I sat and just took in what was happening around me, all these sickly looking people. giving up everything they have just for a bowl. I watched good friends of mine have heart attacks after smoking.. Ive seen peoples minds dissapear and never come back.. Ive watched people rob the headshop and come out with hundreds of grams of spice and have it gone in a matter of days, and thats keeping it to themselves.I watched the world slowly degrade around me and I started to notice that we were all zombies, maybe we werent looking for brains but our next fix. Eventually I had gotten kicked out of my small atco apartment and I moved into a tent outside of the head shop, again. I realized what I was turning into.. I wasnt these people slowly dying around me.. though I looked it.. Yellow skin, red and purple around my eyes, skinny and sickly looking, covered in sores. I twitched when I was starting to come down, I couldnt think or talk, I didnt even take showers. I was a zombie. Within a few weeks of my realization I was 86’d from all the headshops that were within a 20 mile radius of me, one was my fault, one was my friend who noticed the change in me and 86’d me because he cared and knew what was happening to me. I had to stand outside and beg people to buy it for me. after a while people got tired of seeing me and started to treat me badly because I never shared my spice. I moved back in with my mom and I would just cry and plead for her to get it to me, I needed it. I was Crying hysterically and puking and convulsing on the bathroom floor begging my mom to please just get me a gram. She wouldnt get it for me.. after a few days of being sober, now being sober after what I had put myself through was unbeleivable. I Could not sleep, I could not eat, I could not focus on anything around me. I was puking , and crying, and screaming. I spent that week in the bathroom, my body burning at each end. I didnt know what to do.. after that week it started to get a little better,,, my head was starting to get clear..I noticed the color of my skin starting to return. But what followed is no more pleasant than the last two and a half years had been.. I started to have anxiety attacks daily, my stomach always made noise. every time I puked , which was daily All i tasted was chemicals, what I coughed up was black and the sores on my skin got bigger and tripled in numbers. I started seeing spots in my vision. Every day all day there were headaches. shooting pains, heart palpitations.
    this was about nine months ago, when I quit.
    The scary thing is I never knew I was addicted until i Quit.
    And still to this day, nine months later, the headache has NOT gone away, now bearable because i’ve gotten used to it, I still have sores on my skin but they have lowered in numbers drastically. I still have heart palpitations, I still see spots in my vision. I catch myself with my jaw clenched often. random terrifying Tremors I cant sleep still. my anxiety has dropped massivley. and It ruined getting high or drunk for me, I hear my heart beat in my left ear every day, followed by those shooting pains. my adrenaline glands are shot and I cant be happy to save my life, My ability to process words and communicate has gone out the window. I will never be as able as I was, as smart as i was, or who I was before I started smoking that. it ruined my body, my mind, and me. I will never forgive myself for the irreversable damage ive done to my body and mind. I would give my life to get anyone who smokes that, to get them off of it.. My story has helped a few good friends of mine to quit, and they all have health problems like myself, them having smoked for years, or MONTHS! and all of those people living around the head shop.. are still there. just geting sicker and sicker by the day, I cant go there anymore because the last time I did all I did was cry. I’m watching all of my friends and the man I love with my whole heart slowly die.. I hope this story made someone understand how powerful this drug is. and how it is ruining our people from the inside out. in my town, you will find more people that smoke spice than pot. The world has come to an end.

  158. I smoked spice for about 2 -4 weeks smoking maybe 5 grams every couple of days. It caused me to become severly depressed, so I quit! However shortly after smoking it I had a respiratory tract infection; all the garbage I hacked up from my lungs caused me to become high again, like I was smoking spice. My throat went numb everytime I coughed this stuff up. Now 6 months later I am just getting over a serious cold and I started to hack stuff up from my lungs and I have that same numbing aweful taste in my throat. I am convinced it was the chemicals from spice, I just hope it eventually goes away..

  159. Name isnt important but the issue is. I have been smoking this synthetic stuff for about a year and a half and i have had hardly any side effects. I smoke just about everyday with about 6 blunts worth of the stuff. From some of the few posts that i have read i have also tried some of these same products as well that were post like Red Magic or Mr.Happy guy and never got as high as you people have stated. the only side effects i have come across was slight memory loss while smoking the stuff, what i mean about memory loss is me and a friend of mine that smokes with me can be talking about a subject and seconds later cant remember what we were talking about but a few moments later we ended up remembering. When i first had started smoking the stuff i experienced a minor seizure but i dont really know, i was just thinking about playing some video games and the next thing i know my friend is tilting me forward saying are you ok and i look down and i had vomited on the floor and on myself with out knowing, but that happened once and never again. I think im just a lucky one and now i dont even get high from the stuff anymore and i have tried numerous different kinds and nothing. I do at time find myself wanting to smoke but i dont. Honestly i think this drug effect people in a different way and for those out there that may have been affected or have im sorry you had to go through with what ever hapened.

  160. My nephew, 17 years old, is in the ER right now. He has been using spice. He has been throwing up every day for the last month. This morning he had a seizure and was taken to the ER. He is diagnosed with kidney failure. His potasium level is dangerously high and is at risk for heart failure. I found this blog because I was looking for more information on the drug spice. They are not saying right now that spice is the cause of all this, but they are not ruling it out. The thing is he has been a healthy kid until he got messed up with this drug. Just felt the need to let everyone know. Don’t take chances with your precious lives.

  161. @ Gary, hey bud! thanks for your response. What i mean is after i had my bad trip, i started to feel horrible, maybe it was withdrawals..That’s what i’m thinking but it didn’t feel like that.. Anyways, while i was going through my feelings (derealization, body feeling out of place, unclear thoughts, depersonalization) i thought up a plan.. I knew the spice was affecting my brain with it’s harsh chemicals and that’s why i was feeling that way. So i contemplated about messing with the chemistry in my head. I know, it sounds completely insane but every single drug messes with the chemistry in your brain. i decided the closest i would get is to use marijuana, as i messed myself up with legal bud, maybe regular bud would do the trick? So i tried it and sure enough,, I started to feel like the old me,, No more anxiety attacks.. Everything went back to normal and i thank the Lord for marijuana because it saved me from an ugly feeling. So what i am saying is yes, do try the marijuana a couple of times. It might reverse the effects of your brain’s chemistry and no more withdrawals. Let me know what happens! i will pray for you friend. TC and talk to you soon.

  162. Hi Chris
    No not really Chris. It just feels like I may have tiny bit of depsonalization due to the floaters and over analizing everthing. Let go!
    Good Luck! Thanks for the reply

    Garret

  163. DEAR GARRET,
    Sorry I never responded to you, I only check this blog when i’m depressed. My vision has gotten 99% back normal since I started having floaters a couple months after smoking spice. I just stopped worrying about them one night and I hardly ever notice any hindrance to my eyesight again. I’m positive that the floaters are anxiety related. Hopefully this gives you some peace of mind. Good luck man. I’ll check this blog more often for you. Oh and one more thing to anyone else who is on here, do any of you have symptoms tied to depersonalization? This could be unrelated to my spice trip.. considering it was two years ago.
    Okay good luck everyone, peace out cub scout.

  164. I posted back in August I think, telling everyone all of the nasty side effects this stuff had on my husband. Well come to find out, him, his dad and his best friend had been smoking alot of it for 6 or 8 months. His dad had a liver disease when I last posted. I found out shortly afterward that they had purchased several shipments of this crap through the mail. About 2 weeks after these purchases, his dad got severely demented, I mean like walking around naked and being totally out of it. His abdomen began swelling up huge, to where he had to go to the hospital and get the fluid drained off. The liver disease progressed so rapidly, even his physicians were at a loss. He went into a coma and stayed out for a week. He never recovered. He died two weeks later. Second. His friend has something wrong with his pancreas. Since August, he has become severely ill, to the point that he has had to have a feeding tube put in because he cannot tolerate food!! He is now terminally ill and has been given only months to live. Im telling you people, this crap is lethal. If you have any type of illness, this stuff will magnify it a hundredfold and kill you. I am convinced that them smoking this poison has lead to their demise. My husband is now very slow minded, almost like a child sometimes. He forgets everything and is really slow. Im afraid of what the long term effects on his organs is going to be, I already know his brain is fried. Take this very seriously if you have any doubts about the toxicity to your entire system. You will suffer in one way or another, or even worse, die.

  165. Hi I Love My Savior.
    I love your handle. I love Jesus as well and I know He loves me too. Not sure why but I am certainly not complaining.
    I am not getting a clear understanding of what you are saying. Are you saying “weed” as in Marijuana will get you through withdrawals. I am taking Hydrocodone 40-50 mg. per day and having a hard time deciding whether to taper or go cold turkey.
    I am 58, so the odds of me finding marijuana are slim to none. Who is going to sell it to and old goat like me? LOL…
    Please tell me more in detail what you are talking about. I am interested as I have an outside shot from my nephew who knows people that have it. ANYTHING is better than suffering withdrawals. I am praying that God heals and delivers me from all of my medications so that I can be a better example for him and get back to carrying out The Great Commission as He told us all to do!!! -Gary

  166. THE CURE!!! I OVERCAME IT!!!! Hello everyone, my name is Daniel and no this is not spam. I am sixteen years old and i have experimented with spice and it was hell. I smoked about 4 cigars and 5 joints of it in 3 days. On the third day is when it hit me… Started to feel i was going to die, heart beating fast, anxiety attacks, head pumping. Just horrible, and the next day i was so beat. After my trip, i started to feel derealization,insomnia, depersonalization and i couldn’t focus much. If you are experiencing the same symptoms then keep reading. I started to use spice again after the incident but not as abusive, but then i stopped smoking all together for 2 months. I was scared to do it again because i thought it would be a weird high. After those 2 months i used REGULAR WEED. Street weed, you know that backyard stuff, and let me tell you how great it was. This was truly the cure, and i was still scared but it worked! I know it will work for you if you feel like your not yourself. I am still a bit shaky but it was so awesome that i could get rid of that feeling and i hope this inspires you to stop and use regular weed, LISTEN, it’s not only, stop and then do regular. You have to wait a pretty good while, at least 2 months WITHOUT SMOKING ANYTHING. Then start with reggie and you can continue using reggie and it will feel the same, but if you don’t wait a while then nothing will happen. If you have a religion then embrace it, and i myself am a believer in Jesus Christ. Any questions contact me and send me a thank you if this works for you because it did for me! God bless you all!

  167. @J against synthetics:
    You’re very well-spoken. I enjoyed reading your story, as I could relate to it..
    However, don’t go so hard on the ones that continued use.. I consider myself to be an intelligent person who makes semi-decent choices. This stuff isn’t a choice. Not after a while. It becomes an obligation. Anyone that tried to argue that this stuff isn’t totally and completely addictive apparently never smoked much. I went hardcore from the beginning, a stupid decision on my part, I know. But after a while, I couldn’t stop if I’d wanted to. It just doesn’t work that way.
    I quit back in June and I’m still dealing with some side effects. This stuff is way worse than people can even imagine.

  168. Hey guys..
    Just wanted to say congrats to everyone that’s come off this stuff, it’s not easy. Wanted to share my story..the condensed version, anyway.
    I’ve smoked marijuana since I was 15. I’ve always been a decent person–no criminal record, no desire to get into any trouble. I was always super paranoid about getting caught.
    I heard about ‘spice’ and decided to give it a go.
    Besides cigarettes, I’ve never been addicted to anything in my life-until spice.
    Before I knew it, I’d been smoking it every day for 6 months.. Then a year.. Then 18 months.
    I can remember about 5 seperate occasions when smoking it where I puked my guts up, sobbed, and told my friends I didn’t think I could stop if I tried. I was right. It took me hitting rock bottom to quit. Right now, I’m working on paying back stores for bad checks I wrote to get cash to buy the stuff. That’s not something I’m proud to admit, but it’s one of the many things I hold onto in the back of my mind that’ll keep me from ever taking another hit.
    I got up to 7 grams a day. If it actually has killed people, I don’t see how I’m not one of them. I had so many horrible side effects–head aches, confusion, vomiting, complete loss of apetite, hallucinations.. I got to the point that I had to have it to eat. If I wasn’t completely blazed, eating made me sick. And once, I thought my spine was melting into my friend’s car. I could literally feel the plastic bumper being joined with my bones. It was the scariest thing I’ve ever went through..
    I have Bipolar Disorder, so I’ve always dealt with depression and anxiety, but nothing like I did when I was smoking spice. I’m honestly surprised I didn’t commit suicide. I’m thankful to be alive every day now.
    For anyone still smoking.. Please stop. Please. When you do, I PROMISE you’ll look back at this time and realize some things that you can’t see right now. I didn’t even know who I was. In hindsight, I was somebody I never want to be again.
    The 2 years I smoked is a shameful time in my life, but I’m grateful for it. I’ve gotten several of my friends to stop by telling them my story.
    I’m not embelishing or being dramatic, I have no reason to. I just want people to see this stuff for what it really is.

  169. Ok so here is an update if anyone is interested. It has been 10 days since I smoked spice. Slowly day by day my symptoms have gotten better. I am not constantly “craving” it. It seemed like even though I was through with this stuff mentally, my body NEEDED it. I have been drinking lots of water, exercising, and taking B12 with vit C and folic acid, valerian root, and melitonin. I went to an herbalist yesterday and he prescribed me some concoction that I make a tea out of and drink for 5 nights. He said my circulation is very poor. I told him about the GI symptoms, anxiety, and insomnia and he threw some herbs in for those too. After one night of drinking this tea the stabbing pain I had in my right kidney for the last 2 weeks is completely gone. Last night I actually had dreams. I still feel anxious at time but progressively less and less. I am still forcing myself to eat. At time my brain still feels numb. Luckily so far no depression or vision probs. I am still worried about permanent damage. Although I don’t come anywhere near to getting high small bowls of real weed seem to help with the nausea and tingling skin sensations. I’ll keep updating for anyone interested.

  170. To Garret – You will recover, th worst of it is over. My son has gone to a doctor out of state who trains ER doctors on what symptoms to look for with synthetic marijuana. She is very knowledgeable and has told him he his symptoms will subside; it will take some time. It would probably help you to get a mild anti-anxiety to help with the worrying, though. Doesnt mean you have to stay on them forever, just until all the symptoms pass. It has helped my son quite a bit. He is feeling back to normal now.

  171. Hi
    This blog is great. I have only one problem reading the blogs and that is I tend to be an analytical person and I am attaching other peoples side effects to my existing ones. I had terrible anxiety for over a year and hypochondria due the effect of the drug and the worry surrounding the unknown side effects. My anxiety is gone, I have mild depression. I still have prominent eye floaters. Because I was worried about whether I had damaged my vision after the panic attack or if the anxiety was the main cause of the floaters. Have I a form of HPPD? I know there is correlation between eye floaters and panic attack experiences. If I my eye floaters would dissipate I would feel zero depersonalization and then I would be back to my self. Regarding memory problems, I am not so sure if I have that problem.
    All I know is that after the bad experience I developed hypochondria, especially concerning my vision. My bad experience was mild compared to some above. the peak of the high from the fake wade was just horrible anxiety and racing heart and I felt at that moment(just a taught) that I had damaged my brain or my nervous system. The next day I woke up, I could not get this taught out of my being and I was also convinced that I had damaged my vision. I was scanning my vision consciously and I must have subconsciously also. Is this the reason for seeing my floaters all of the time or is HPPD? Can someone please put me at rest. I have spoken to people many people who have smoked real weed for years and they say that they had tons of them and that they went away after a few years.
    the idea about not being oneself scares me and it is very unhealthy to be hyper scanning my being all of the time. I must let go of this experience. One more question are my symptoms psychosomatic?
    Surely people have recovered. Can somebody give some peace of mind?

  172. i did this a few years back. we were waiting for our dealer to come by and our buddy had some on him and says he does it all the time its harmless…we packed a bong pack or two…one friend was skeptical and barely milked it so he was fine…my other frend seizured….we went to play video games and I couldnt understand, idk what i couldnt understand but i just ouldnt handle the game, my hands looked small and my heart started to pound out of my chest, after awhile I hallucinated watching myself die where I sat. I thought i was sure I was having a heart attack and believed death was envdable at that point. something in my head told me to walk id feel better so thats what i did i left where i was and walked. it slowed down my heart rate and i started to think maybe forrest gump was doin it right. about 10 mins in I started to think that the world was against me and everyone was playin a joke on me and it was all fake. I went back where i was and checked on my friend who seizured and when i left his house a second time i halluicinated aface in the sky i believed was God who told me i was invincible and now one of his angels. I woke up the next morning uncomfortable like something was inside of me, my heart beat was bascally none existant and i snapped on everyone over pointless stuff. I also couldnt get it up which lasted for about a day. I smoked it twice. once someone sprinkled it in the blunt so no one had a bad trip and second time through the bong. I used to have a great memory, years later i cant remember things all the time and i find myself wondering wtf i was doing or saying reguraly…granted i smoke pot hahaha….took a few days for me to go back to pot after the spice and i was paranoid what would happen but i was and am fine….It has changed who I am and how I think, sometimes i miss the old me but sometimes i recognize the stupidity behind ever touching it and as long as my long term health is ok im happy to say i have learned

  173. Just about every person on here has reported prolonged panic attacks, enxiety & depression after smoking Spice. The same thing happened to my son. He is now on meds for depression & anxiety. The codtor says he will get back to normal byt it will take some time. Prior to his smoking this he never had a day of anxiety, no depression and had never had a panic attack before. I think those symptoms alone would be enough to keep people off of this poison! Having to take him to the ER every weekend before he started getting better was horrible and frightening for him. I hope this blog will stop some people from starting this stuff.

  174. This is just a theory, but I believe this can lead to heart and lung disease, cancer, arteriosclerosis, COPD, depression, and short term memory loss.
    I’ve simply weighted the actions and side effects, of what everyone is experiencing.

  175. Hi Chris
    I have the floaters also. Did your floaters just pop up or did you kind of dig them out due to hypochondria. I did not notice my floaters until about 2-3 months after my panic attack. I had tons of anxiety after the panic, I taught I had done some damage to my brain and that the way I was feeling would never leave me. Because it was in my subconscious that legal highs could damage ones vision, after my experience I could not get the taught out on my mind. So with all the anxiety, worry, hypochondria about 2-3 months down the line the floaters just burst out all over the place. I got very depressed and they only increased my anxiety. I am feeling a million times better now. No anxiety, no hypochondria. I just worry sometimes. People told me the floaters were anxiety related. I still kind of wonder about the truth about that. Maybe it’s a mild form of HPPD. I have just the floaters and I also notice a kind of static or visual snow. I am not sure if it’s the HPPD visual type visual snow that I have or if it’s just my white blood cells zipping around. People who have traumatic experiences go through flight or fight mode and people report eye floaters. I wish I new for sure. Some develop floaters after cannabis or just anxiety in general. Drugs can affect the brain and liver. One great improvement with me was the heart rate; mine has returned to normal, so skipping heart beats and anxiety. I have a feeling that the eye floaters will dissipate in another few years. Change your whole life. The following book is very good: Why People Don’t Heal and How They Can By CAROLINE MYSS, PH.D.

  176. Ok so it’s been 3 days since I last smoked. It’s midnight I have no ability to sleep but much,much desire. I stumbled on this blog bc of the bad trip I had 3 days ago and I am still feeling like crap! I wanted to see if there was any hope out there and apparently there is…..thank god for blogs like this. This stuff has messed up my life. I lost my job, have been to the ER 12 times, and 3 days ago ended up in a homeless shelter after that bad trip. All of this in 10 months of smoking spice.
    What happened last Saturday is what everyone has described….I felt like I was going to die. Rapid heart rate, sweating, hot/cold, shaking, vomiting non stop, screaming, loosing my mind, going crazy, dying, going to hell, hallucinating. After I was taken to the ER by 911 completely out of it they got me to some how say I would go to “rehab”. The next thing I knew some people in a van picked my up and took me to a place downtown and dropped me off. The place was a detox “crisis” center where you had to wait for a bed to become available with every other “intoxicated” person downtown. I have no sense of time that night all I know is I was throwing up non stop, my whole body hurt like hell, I had no bra, under ware, or shoes on and I had no idea where I was. After what seemed like an eternity at 330am they said I had a bed. They gave me some nausea medicine and some anxiety medicine and I fell asleep. I remember waking up a few times and not being able to figure out what time it was. Finally at 300 pm I woke up and I’m like now what? So they say do you want to go home now? Do you need a ride? And, I’m like hell yeah! Get me home. So I am home now and trying to stay off spice. I just can’t wait for it to get better. I have lost 40lbs and have no appetite whatsoever. My whole body still aches and I have bad anxiety. Reading all of this has really helped. Try to keep you updated.

  177. Hi.
    I smoked Hades Gods of War around two years ago.
    Terrible experience… and my first and hopefully last with any mind-altering drug
    I’ve been reading the reply’s since the incident and just wanted to come on and report my progress to anyone who cares.
    I’m feeling much better and only experience slight uneasiness when sitting in complete silence.
    I have eye floaters as many of you have stated and although it hardly bothers me I wish they would go away. On the bright side I think my new mind-state after going through that experience is better so…(:
    Because the person now is who I am.. and I fucking love myself.
    I wish the best of all of you.
    -Chris

  178. i tried some syntheic weed because they said that the weed wouldn’t show up in your body.but if i would have known that it makes you feel like that i would not have touched it.it was a once thing but it was a lesson.i thought i was loosing my mind,my heart was beating fast all kinds of crazy feelings.i advise no one to use spice.its not good for u i will be sticking to the regular weed.that stuff needs to band nation wide.

  179. Saw the psychiatrist today and it was really helpful. She prescribed me Zoloft (FDA approved for panic disorders) and told me to continue taking the Xanax I obtained to keep myself sane, at least for the next few weeks till the Zoloft kicks in. Made sure to ask her about protocol for getting off the Zoloft eventually cause I’m not a fan of pharmacueticals.

    If anyone is having a similar reaction to mine, I really recommend this method of treatment. I cannot imagine going through months of this like some of the people above, and she really gave me hope that this will not be forever. My psychiatrist visit was $175 (to see a nurse practitioner, no less and I was REALLY lucky to get in just 4 days after I called) and the Zoloft was $28.

    I have health insurance but it doesn’t cover psychiatric issues (so I can’t wait to see that ER bill from 2 weeks ago.) She wants to see me back in two weeks just to check in and also for an hour of therapy, and lowered her price to $125 since I’m self pay. Maybe I could’ve gone to my GP, but it was really comforting to talk to someone who I knew would not be judgmental, who did not rush me, and was incredibly sympathetic.

    Point being, if you’ve smoked this crap and messed yourself up, you CAN get help. Go to your doctor and do NOT be afraid to be honest. You purchased a legal substance, don’t be ashamed. Good luck to all of you.

  180. Spice is terrible and is getting worse everyday. Each time they outlaw a chemical in spice they find another one that’s even worse. The high is very intense and very brief leaving you wanting more. It’s like crack. My partner and I threw hundreds of dollars away on that stuff. We finally quit when things got so bad I attempted suicide. Now my partner is addicted again. It’s a major struggle. The new kind he smoked made him look like he was having a seizure. Just make marijuana legal already.

  181. Smoked Mad Hatter one night two weeks ago somewhat heavily after a few months of very occasional, light use. I was out of pot and I guess went a little overboard. I experienced a severe anxiety/panic attack that simply would not go away. I was literally pacing in my house, although thankfully no hallucinations.

    I went to the ER for the first time in my life the following afternoon. They perscribed me a few lorazapam and sent me on my way, saying I should be fine the next day. Two weeks later I’m still having all these crazy triggers (eating has become a big one, I’m down 10 pounds in 2 weeks) and I’ve made an appointment to see a psychiatrist in hopes of getting a rx for anti-anxiety meds (yes,I will be filling her in on what has lead up to this).

    My questions is, we all seem to be experiencing similar things, but are there herbal rememdies/detoxifiers for this? Could a clay supplement help with pulling this crap out of our systems?

  182. Hello Carlos. Thanks for your question. It’s a great one. I’d suggest checking into the CLINICALTRIALS.GOV site every now and then to seek actively recruiting trials and searching for the keywords “synthetic cannabinoids” or “Spice” or “synthetic marijuana”. You can also try to search for trials related to THC and then get in touch with doctors who are currently testing THC and contact them about possible trials for synthetics. Otherwise, ask you family doctor for more information and to seek a referral to local resources of university, hospital or private practice research being done in this realm.

  183. first of all I want to thank everyone for posting, it has helped me a lot. I have never done this but know that my husband is addicted. He started smoking this instead of weed like everyone for drug test, but now the test is over and he still wants this!! The hard part is, he lies to me about it! Like will be high, eyes barely open and bloodshot cant barely talk, and running outside every chance he gets and will tell me that he isnt high, or hit a reg joint 3 hours ago (which wouldnt have him high) or hes just tired, Yesterday I actually caught him red handed with the bowl filled and he still lied to my face!!,,,when I already knew, smelled it and and everything and hes gonna hit it in front of me and say wow that tastes wierd ( like it wasnt weed) like im stupid! Ive smoked plenty of weed nobody can tell me something is weed when its not especially because i already knew before i seen or smelld it
    He was on it a couple months ago and did the same thing until he finally admitted it only because i was blaming him for something else and i think he stopped for a while, then all of a sudden the lying came and I knew. Ive tried to be mad at him, Ive tried to tell him im worried and its going to break us up (together for 9 years!) even when he wakes up so hes sober when i say it and i leave and come back and hes high again saying hes not and dont have any. hes been thrwing up every morning for the past week. and last time he was doing it it got real bad when he didnt have it…mornings for example and was being a complete ass. He would leave out of nowhere even if it was late at night to go get it. But my question is how do i get him to stop when he wont even admit that he has it or is doing it? even when he will talk with me about it its only half of the truth. to me an addiction is an addiction no matter what it is and i dont know how far i should let this go. I have two small children with him and do not want a “bad trip” or a heart attack or seizure to happen with it. and its hard because hes really nice when hes on it and just changes the subject or get really mad when i wont let up on it, or like this morning when he kind of admitted that it wasnt easy to stop but he knows he has to, that he doesnt have any more and isnt going to do it and was high by the time i came home from the store…. n lied about it! Im pulling my hair out not knowing what to do for me or him. If anyone has any ideas that they tried with their man or any man; who was on it that can give me a insight on what could get through to him I would be very appriciative. worst of all, most of the guys at his work do it so its not like i can keep them ppl away.

  184. @Anon Do you live anywhere near Kentucky? I live in Lexington, and some incense(poison I call it now) called “Aztec Warrior” almost killed me. I am so lucky to be alive. I’ve almost died 3 times in my life, so I know the feeling. I heard crackling & thundering SO loud, heard rushing water & my brain felt very hot. My balance then went out of my control. Would you do me the biggest favor in the world & ask your neighbor what his opinion is on what I experienced? I seriously looked into the sky to see if it was thundering(because the sound was so intense) & it was the clearest, blue sky I’d seen in a while; it was beautiful outside. It was brain damage occurring. I just would like to know specifics on what type of brain damage. The neurologist I went to just performed a basic physical test to see how I was responding to balance etc. Plus he was horribly patronizing & condemning. I just saw that you smoked ‘Aztec’ & wanted to be sure if it was the same brand I’d used. The police here in town took “Happy Tiger”(my regular brand) off the shelves for about a week, so I found whatever was left at the local Headshop. One more thing(I promise.. :)) I watched a documentary on women(particularly young women) soccer players who’d suffered a type of brain damage from ‘heading’ the ball so many times. They said it was mandated by their coach to do(heading) in darn near every game.They specifically had a sensitivity to light & have to now have all the lights dimmed & wear sunglasses for an undetermined amount of time & of course, give up soccer. They’d had mini-concussions, which added up to brain damage. So I’m really hoping/happy you are safe.

    You seem very wise to have educated yourself about all this. I hope to hear from you regardless about you & your brother’s progress, we’ve got a great support system here if you need it, ever.
    God bless & I hope you live a happy, healthy life,
    Take care,
    -Jessica

  185. Just started smoking this stuff last week. I have only tried one kind “Mr. Happy”. Did not have any problems with it till a few hours ago. Took one hit and my heart started going crazy, it has never beat like that before in my whole life {I am 35). Thought for sure I was going to die. Woke my roomate up and told him I was having a heart attack. Really scary. Will never ever touch spice again.

    Thanks to everyone that has posted, I feel alot better knowing it is the drug and not my heart.

  186. If you all want to know what that sharp pain in your head is…it is your brain actually swelling up with blood from the spice. My neighbor is a pretty straight guy and is a neurologist. He says the stuff scares the shit out of him. Ive smoked spice 4 times. I keep telling myself not to do it again because the headaches, the lag (slowed thinking), and the annoying sensitivity to light. I was playing soccer after smoking it once…it was the girls varsity team vs boys varsity team and I scored a goal with my head…holy fucking shit. I had to walk off of the field, go into the woods and wait for practice to end…. i couldnt even drive home. I had to take the bus because I i couldnt take my hands off my head. This was after smoking some shit called “aztec”. Also my bro Chris smoked this out of a pen and became very VERY pale and started shaking and having all the symptoms of a seizure. He also through up numerous times. He slept in his car for four hours he said. Then he went home. All im going to end this with is….please dont do this stuff. Don’t do it, dont encourage others to do it, and dont let yourself be hassled into it.

  187. sorry to drag this out into 3 statements but i believe my comments may be helpful. I have been addicted to cigarettes, heroin, coc, benzos, everything you you can be addicted besides meth. After this experience I flushed the remainder of this stuff down the toilet because I remembered myself thinking”this is not a drug I want to ever do again.” But now, after only trying once, and hating it I can feel the same addictive qualities I’ve felt from the illegal drugs i’ve done, like heroin. I can see how someone may not remember how just horrible it was and end up beginning a nightmare cycle. Thank god I threw it away and read this blog. DANGER SYNTHETIC WEED IS HORRIBLE STUFF. c’mon government protect our children from evil companies like this, and just legalize the natural stuff…

  188. and if people are getting addicted to it I believe they must be adding other addictive qualities, like cigarettes, because no one should enjoy being that scared and for lack of a better word completely f@$#ed up. I know drugs, and this is the worst one i’ve ever come across. I reiterate, don’t do it! you will regret it immediately. Horrifying…

  189. Well. look, i’ve done just about every drug you can imagine, from weed to DMT and salvia divinorum.. Just tried K@ for the 1st time because someone said it was a similar high to marijuana and undetectable. I love pot, and plan to smoke it in moderation for the rest of my life. I can also I would recommend ANY other drug before I would recommend this synthetic crap. Yes, U are completely under it’s influence for almost an hour, and it is very unpleasant. I thought I was going to die. I tried it on my bed for the first time, just held one hit in for about 20 secs, and I didn’t leave the bed for an hour. Immediately after coming out it I had to research it(wish i had first) because I had to know,WHAT IS THIS SHIT!?
    I remember feeling as if I were on some drug made by the government to destroy people, and that I was never going to be the same again. I did come down but I’m still disturbed by It’s memory. This is not a substitute for weed, but a nasty nasty chemical.. You would probably be better of huffing paint. Really. DO NOT TRY. I had a love affair with drugs and I can say this stuff is pure evil. trust me

  190. to Jaseeka1986
    Thanks so much for your encouraging words! I will check out the other sites as well. I was so happy to find this site, reading other peoples experiences has helpd me to understand what he has gone through better. Throughout this ordeal I had alot of people telling me to kick my son out of the house, show him “tough love”, let him take care of himself, etc. I didn’t listen to them as I cannot and will not kick someone when they are already down. I love my son very much, and the simple fact is he made a mistake. A bad decision for a 20 year old, but we all make errors in judgement no matter our age. But as his mother, it’s my job to be there for him when he needs me and help him when he cant help himself. He didnt wake up one day and say “Gee, I think I’ll start smoking Spice so I cann induce psychosis, go to the ER every weekend with massive panic attacks and be diagnosed with major depression”. None of the people who smoked this thought that, I’m sure. I’m not making excuses for his drug use, but believe me he has learned his lesson in the worst possible way.
    I wish you all the luck in the world; it sounds like you are feeling better now!

  191. @David Y. & @Christy:
    @Christy I’m really sorry to hear about your son. I went through the same thing. I didn’t think I’d ever be right again. Ever, honestly. I smoke daily since Winter of 2010 to March 4th, 2012. The last time I almost died. I got brain damage & was ‘stuck’ in severe psychosis for 3 months immediately after the damage before I could even get my mind to finally go on auto-pilot without having to think of death & feel like I was in a bad dream. But looong story as short as possible, it did take a while to get out of my system & for me to normalize. Although I almost died & suffered brain damage instead of just using many time like your son did, so I’m positive it’ll be less of an amount of time for him to deal with than what I endured. It’s still no less serious. My moods were up & down & I felt as if I were underwater/in a fog/ in a nightmare for 3 month. It was Hell. But feeling as normal as I do now, I appreciate it & value it so much more than before. Our sanity is something we cannot, absolutely cannot take for granted. It’s everything. If you can’t tell this traumatic experience affected me a bit.. But my point of writing you is to tell you how much better it is now. There’s a little bit of a hard time you(in general) go through after smoking/while detoxing this poison. But once our bodies work the poison out of our system & we see the light for the first time in a loong time, it works pure magic. It just fantastic he’s got a mother such as yourself; you care & love him very much, this is evident. The fact you’ve found this forum is incredible & will be nothing but great for helping yourself & him not only find comfort in the sense you are not alone in dealing with this ordeal, but also in finding manners to deal with it & how others have coped. Two other forums you may be interested in & that may help you do this are: “Does synthetic weed cause death?” & “Smoking herbal incense effects” search these with the homepage search engine on this site & you will be amazed at the stories & insight/perspective/info. you gain. I want you to know that he needs you more than ever right now, I have a feeling you know this, though! Be sure to have patience with his temperament as it’s only the incense affecting him & his behavior. My family for example did not understand nor care about me, so this made it particularly hard to deal with such things. Let him know(if you feel it appropriate) that you’ve done research & found others who have suffered & that they’re now fine, and healed; that they went through a very similar experience & are now normal, healthy & happy. He will be, and most importantly, feel like himself again. Remind him how much you love him! 🙂 Keep being strong & as wise as you are. He’s extremely lucky(& I’m sure thankful!) to have such a mother. You are not judgmental as some people & parents may be, which can only make things harder. Take your time & know time may seem to go slow in the moment, but it will fly by & you all will be wiser, stronger & happier very, very soon! I wish you all the best & I will be praying for you & your son. God Bless you! 🙂 -Jessica

    @David Y I know it’s been a little while since you’ve posted your post, but I’m just now seeing it. I wanted to tell you that immediately following my “ordeal” of brain damage & almost death from this poison, I’d seen many more “floaters” than usual. I didn’t realize this was likely a symptom/side effect from the incense until I’d seen a post similar to yours on another forum on this website. I wanted to inform you that there’s another guy on this similar forum(on this website) who’s been posting very much about the same subject as you have just addressed. There are two forums that he’s possibly posted on, I can’t seem to remember the exact one. It’s either, “Does synthetic weed cause death?” or “Smoking herbal incense effects”. You should check them out regardless, they’re fantastic for anyone going through this ordeal. Another thing, my vision directly following this incident, and 2 years of constant smoking of this poison, my vision is royally fucked. Sorry for the language. That word really describes it though. Before I definitely needed glasses, but could pass a vision test at the DMV or could drive safely without them. Now I cannot! Night vision is terrible & regular vision is insane compared to before. I know HAVE to get contacts in order to even take my driver’s license test! I’ve never been so blind. I don’t trust my driving without vision ‘enhancers’. So once again, loong story short, check out the other forums for that one poster who talked at length on the same subject, I’ve had terrible vision problems following the incense ingestion & lastly, be sure to get your eyes checked immediately! You need to know what you’re working with, if it can be helped & if you’ve possibly suffered irreversible damage. I don’t want to scare you though, since it could just be a simple side effect that can & may work itself out very soon. One last thing, I’ve heard the supplement(Vitamin) “Lutein” is great for eye health, that & “Beta Carotene” from carrots & other foods. Check that out as well, it’s worth a try, especially if it improves your vision or eye health & in turn, your overall health. God Bless you & I hope you feel better as far as vision goes, as well as overall health! I’m praying for you & your health. Stay strong. Much love & again, God Bless you!
    -Jessica 🙂

  192. Hi
    I’m feeling a million times better. My heart is fine and the anxiety has 99.9% left me. I still have the prominent eye floaters eye floaters. The static I see is not visual snow, more like visual tadpoles. I am sure this is just natural eye phenomena heightened by anxiety. The floaters do disturb me and I hope my mind cancels them out again. Can someone talk to me about the floaters? Will they dissipate or will my mind cancel them out in the future?
    Thanks.

    Garret

  193. To Molly, The police took my son to a mental facility as well. He needed to go. He was completely delusional and having auditory hallucinations. This was last year before anyone started talking about Spice, but thanks goodness this facility was a rehab/drug center as well and the doctors were well aware of Spice and it’s side effects.
    I know how scary it is to see your loved one acting like a schizophrenic. My son is now on Abilify and Lexipro it is working very well on his depression and anxiety. He got over over his psychosis, but had to take meds to clear it. Thankfully they worked and the doctors tapered him off with no lingering side effects. I am on a mission to let people know how bad this stuff is. The doctor told my son last week that he is lucky this is all that has happened to him as she had a metting with local ER doctors and they have had 2 kids come in brain dead after smoking it. BRAIN DEAD.

  194. my story starts out as.. i bought what i thought was a real bag of weed. (which i’m so livid about.) it tasted a little weird, kinda like downy fabric softener, i didn’t put to much thought into it. it took a couple of days to smoke the sack but then all of the sudden after smoking a bowl one morning i went into a full panic attack. i knew i was dying, i couldn’t breath right, my head was burning, my vision was blurry, i was so dizzy i couldn’t stand not alone walk. now my story differs because i had no idea i wasn’t smoking real marijuana, i really thought i was dying. not cool. i eventually pulled through this most awful experience, thank god, but afterwards i was sooo nervous, i thought i had a stroke or something? i was extremely dizzy the rest of the day and the next day and had no desire to smoke anything or eat anything. now me not realizing what caused this disturbing episode, i hit another bowl after i felt a little better and drove to get food. i was waiting for my food when it hit me like a ton of bricks. all the same symptoms. i rushed out in a panic because i didn’t want to die in cassano’s. i tried to force a couple of bites in the car because maybe it was diabetes are something, i had no idea? i couldn’t swallow it. horrible feeling. i went to the hospital. i got diagnosed with panic attacks and sent home. wow, but what caused my body to go into a full blown panic attack? i stopped drinking all caffeine, drinking only water, stopped smoking all together, and was beginning to feel normal again. it’s like it just lingered in my body for days making me feel sick and dizzy. i told my friend all my test claim i’m healthy so maybe i’ve been poisoned or something? i still really didn’t know.. until, after a week i was feeling pretty good again, back to my old self, so i decided to hit one of the roaches that was left from the sack from hell. i went into the same trip but this time my brain registered it as the pot i had just smoked. “it’s been laced are something?” i said to myself, “a mofo is trying to kill me!” (haha) i’ve tried synthetic marijuana once a long time ago i thought it was kinda stupid and it just gave me a headache. so to put 2 and 2 together i was telling a friend of mine and she had mentioned that some fake pot was supposedly dangerous. what?!!! i must research this claim and low and behold here are my symptoms to a tee. my point of this testimony is to inform regular pot smokers to watch your, “real marijuana” i think they added it for weight? i’ve been smoking for 23 years and got fooled. if it doesn’t taste like pot.. stop smoking it asap. my lungs keep getting sharp pains (which is a horrible feeling that i’ve never felt before from all my years of smoking real pot.) and i just hope that it didn’t cause any long term damage. i didn’t sign up for this trip and i’m pissed about it. so please beware. 🙁

  195. I only smoked the stuff probably under 20 times and I never had any problems with the stuff during the high… but about 2 years ago (about a month after the last time I used it) I started having major panic attacks for no reason and would think I was going to die… These panic attacks lasted for about 5 months and I’m all good on that now. However, I am STILL extremely sensitive to light and I have to wear sunglasses all day until the sun goes down (even inside). Also, what I am wondering about is if any of you have experienced thousands of tiny specks that move around in your vision? If I look at a bright colored object I can clearly see them, just moving around. The best way to describe it is what your tv would look like when the channel goes out, that “snow”, but not quite as bad. If anyone has anything like this, I would like to know so that I can hopefully eliminate the spice as the cause. SPICE IS CRAZY. Do yourself a favor and don’t smoke it, EVER.

  196. My son smoked spice about 20-25 times. He spent over 60 days in hospitals recovering. He is now suffering from anxiety disorder and depression. The doctors say the spice will take a long to leave his system as it binds to the cells 100 times stronger than marijuana,. They have diagnosed his present issues to the spice. He never had a panic attack or any anxiety beore smoking it. It has been a nightmare for him and the people who love him. We have to watch him struggle every day. This stuff is really, really bad.

  197. Well its been awhile since i smoked spice alot… Back when it was nuts!!! Now its not as strong, but i have to say im not smoke n it agin! Back then i smoked Judgement day and armageddon, that was some stuff… I remember one time i took like 6 hits/bouls to the head/which was a bad idea… all i can remember was pinokio had strings around me and he was controlling me like a robot… he walkd me over to the middle of the room and sat me down… at this point a was on a beach, waves were at my feet/ then i was shooting hydro pumps out of my eyes/ my friend later told me i had two tears come n down my face, which were the hydros… crazy isnt it … then a demon came behind me and ripped my heart out of my body/felt like a black hole suck me in through my heart… after that my mom came into my room and said daniel what the … is rong with you r u smoke n spice agin… my mom in my eyes was so … scary looking you dont even know!!! i melted into the ground after that / my mind turnd scard. so scard that i dont know what was with me. i told my friend i got to get away from my mom shes evil !!! so my mom ran to me and shook me and said wake up, at that time i wanted so far from my mom it was make n a earth quake like fire everywhere . so my friend told my mom what was going on and he took me outside and waited alittle and it wore off … just like that…. the messed up part was after that day my life felt fake like the world was bull, if u know what im talk n about u know cuz all my friends said the same stuff after they smoked it, now its nothing like it used to be weak… thats my trip of my life…..so back to why m here .. i was just ckeck n what the side effects were long term or the day after… i can see that so far i feel sad,my head hurts,like a pressure like feeling,ahhhh mad monkey. i felt like a crack head like i need more… but i dont no body does its going to kill us….. the goverment just needs to kill of some population thats why its here… well need to go to bed haha /by the way i wasnt lie n about my trip some crazy

  198. My friend started smoking spice, and now he doesn’t even smoke weed anymore. It’s really scary, he buys it all the time. He is actually showing signs of addiction. He told me “weed just didn’t do it for him anymore”. It really pisses me off. That stuff is stupid. There is going to be a lot of pissed off people when several hundred thousand people develop Early-onset Alzheimer’s disease, or some other crazy affliction from smoking that crap. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but ban the hell out of it. I want my friend back.

  199. First off, i urge anyone reading this that is cutoous about spice to never do it! If you want somethig to get you high stay with weed! So heres my story, in the beginning, when i was 14/ early 15 i smoke spice very rarely! I didnt like it very much an i would have definately rathered smoking real weed except for one problem; MY DAD DRUG TESTS ME! So i resorted to smokin spice. I started hanging out with two other friends when i was 15/16 and eventually we were smokin three grams a day between us. We had grown such a tolerance to it that we were smoking about every 15 min. I have a week stomach and i would honestly puke at least once a week if not more. I could tell if i was going to puke through a series of various symtoms- very fast heart rate, starting to sweat, lost feeling of reality ( worse than the normal effects of being high) and queezy stomach then BLAHHHHH!!! Puke everywhere.. Sometimes i would only puke once, and other times i would puke for hours, depending on how much my friends and i had smoked. I realized keeping it to one bowl at a time lowered my chances of puking. Also, i hates the taste if spice, it made me cringe every time i even got a whiff of it and jt was very easy fir me to get a bad hit and if that happened i would start uncontollably druling like you do right hefore u puke, and i would have horrible chest pain coming frommyheart. It almost felt as though my heart was rising in my body and it was creating pessure on the other organs if that amkes sense to anyone. After a year of constant smoking i finally realized enough was enough and i stopped. I can easily say that spice is addictive! I definately had withdrawls frim not smoking for a few weeks. Now that ive shared my back story, i want to talk about the long term effects that i think are the result of spice. I am 16 almost 17 amd havent touched spice since that faithful day where i finally realized enough was enough. It has been probably 8 months and i have noticed some effects. I am a smart kid! And i know some people reading this will thinkto themselves ” well obiously hes not that bright i he decided to smoke spice for that long.” but its true! I make straight A’s! But ive noticed im not able to remember things nearly as well as i used to ie. names or facts. Actually, i really cant remember everything that happend in that year of smoking it.I have chest pains from from time to time and they definately do not feel good. I have nausea more often for no aparent reason. But the worst side affect by far is my speech. I sometimes slur my words or or mix up the words to my sentences. I know exactly what i want to say in my mind but the process of speaking what i am thinking is sometimes difficult. It is also embarrassing mixing up your words and sounding like a dumbass. I had never had any of these problems till i started using spice snd now looking back on it.. Its depressing that i did that to my body. I really hope this helped someone and/or answered some questions u might if had. Be smart and smoke weed if u want to get high not something that has killed people

  200. @Kenneth

    I had a similar experience so I feel your pain!!! I’m so thankful to read these posts about similar experiences because now I’m 100% sure it was the “spice” that did that to me!

    The other night my husbands (grown) nephew and his gf stopped by. He was smoking spice and asked me if I wanted to try it. I’ve smoked it a couple of times a few years ago and it gave me the same feeling as regular weed so I didn’t think anything of it. Once I hit it one time my whole world flipped upside down! The room went silent and I felt like I was underwater for a moment. Then it was like I knew where I was but I didn’t know where I was. Then I started to panic and scream. All I could hear was my own voice in my head and my heartbeating really fast. It was like I was outside of my self looking at myself terrified and out of control. I kept trying to pull it together mentally but it got worse and seemed to last forever. I was certain that I was about to die and that is a terrifying feeling that I wouldnt wish on anybody. I was afraid to close my eyes because I thought I may never open them again. Finally my husband came to check on me and was able to get me back to normal. That stuff is the devil! And I will never ever ever go anywhere near it. They need to outlaw this stuff before the whole world goes nuts. I can’t stop thinking about that experience and I’ve been having this blank moments when I completely forget what I’m doing then it will suddenly come back.

    I’m starting a personal campaign to stop everybody I know that uses that stuff to STOP IMMEDIATELY!

  201. I have read your blogs over and over. I have never touched this stuff and will never do it. My husband on the other hand did and he is in a hospital trying to get his mind back. My husband started to smoke this stuff about a year ago. My husband has always had problems with anxiety and depression. He is also a recovering alcoholic and has not touched liquour in years. He is also a diabetic and takes daily medication for all of these. We had a great life. He was a great husband, had a wonderful job and was a great dad. He wanted to smoke the real stuff but didnt want to lose his job with the random testing. A friend turned him on to this crap. I researched this over and over and he wouldnt listen. Finally things began to get worse. His cravings were bad for this stuff. He was spending about $250 to $300 a month on this stuff. He was lying about the money he was spending to buy this stuff. He started to stay up for days at a time and seemed to only be happy and able to cope with life if he was smoking this crap. We were starting to argue about the stuff all the time and he was calling me horrible names and started to treat me different. He had side effects: headaches, horrible nite sweats, rapid heart, high blood pressure, vomiting (he started to vomit in his sleep), a horrible cough, got flashes, and finally a heart attack. Of course I talked to the doctors about this stuff and was told that they didnt know much about it and that they couldnt say if it was the reason or a part of the reason he had a heart attack. After his heart attack his behavior got worse. He was staying up for days and days. He was smoking and smoking. Lying and Lying. This was not the man I married or knew. He was changing right before my eyes. On September 18th my husband left the house mad at me and I didnt see him for days until I was bailing him out of jail. My husband smoked him self to craziness. He picked up a drink and fell off the wagon. He wiped out our accounts, drank and smoked our money away. He also comitted 3 felonies while on his binge. He was arrested for aggrivated robbery. This man doesnt need any money. WTF! He doesnt remember anything. He tried to rob 2 woman of their purses and then pulled a gun on a man and told him to give him his billfold.OMG!!! Eluded the police and wrecked his car.This was not my husband. He is now facing so many problems. He is in a mental/rehab hospital trying to find himself. Once he leaves there he will face charges on three felonies. This crap ruins lives. It makes you sick and plays with your mind. It makes you do things you would never do. If you are smoking this stuff, think of your future. It will ruin your life if it doesnt kill you .

  202. okay i been an on and off spice smoker for a while, I smoked some Bob Marley like 6 months ago and i just recently picked up this new jammy called Johnny Appleseed ERUPTION. its good stuff, the only effect i got was a headache, it you smoke enough youll start tripping and hallucinating. Yesterday I thought my neighbor was getting shot upstairs because she was watching Bad Boys and i could hear her tv and the gun shots, so i had my wife text her and i put on my body armor and was looking through the windows for about 20 minutes. This high last for about 30-40 minutes and then you actually start to feel yourself come down from it especially when u drink water, water is like your EMERGENCY IF TO HIGH switch.

  203. I been using spice and every brand there is availble to me for about 3 years on and off this stuff almost kill me a couple of times thank God that I am alive today. This synthetic stuff is very addictive as nicotine if anyone is still using this stuff PLEASE STOP now because this is legal CRACK!

  204. Hi, my boyfriend has been smoking climax he was smoking some other stuff but now cant find it. He use to be nice and goofy on it. But now he is crabby. We were arguing about him being hooked on it, spending 30 every two days on it! And I told him I was going to get rid of it he needs to quit. I barely picked it up and before I could blink he pushed me on the floor and then I got up to get away and even faster he had my arm and went to twist it so fast if I had not dropped it right away I know he would have broke my arm. Then he has been vomittng alot. Now tonight he came home and I was looking outside to see what he was doing it was 1:30 am and he was outside naked with the water hose. I am not going to lie I am scared! I have been sleeping in another room for weeks now because I have 3 kids and he won’t get a clue I dont want them to see or now about stuff like that and he continues to smoke in his car in the front or with the garage open. I tell him I dont need people seeing u do that because we have kids. We have been together for almost 10 years but honestly this is not worth the safety of my kids and I have tried to get him to leave but he wont unless I take him to court I am scared to keep pushing it because I seen what this stuff did with man eating dog and so on. I mean I am so scared right now I grabbed 3 of my daughters biggest snow globes from her collection because I dont know what else to use if he comes at me. I know he went to his room and shut the door I am hoping he is sleeping but I WILL NOT go to sleep I am afraid for my kids and me. I dont think he would do anything to my kids but he was just outside naked so I dont trust nothing now! I don’t know what to do. Can someone at least tell me how long before they snap or signs of it or any suggestions.

  205. My husband has been a heavy smoker for a while life has gone down the tubes since anywho I’m sick and have been on bed rest we had an incident today I told him if he is gonna smoke use it sparingly because I need him to give our child a ride somewhere later and but he smoked himself out of his mind and could not talk straight and wasn’t making any sense and when it was time to go I was like I’m just gonna take her myself because your not driving in the car with her like that and he’s like we’ll your suppose to stay in bed well I can’t if our kids have places to go and they need rides and your in no condition to drive so I’m taking her myself after that he got raging mad and threw his pipe away and flushed all of the stuff down the toilet and said I hope your happy I’m never gonna touch the stuff again he’s like running around the house raging mad and sweating terribly and being so so mean maybe he’s ready to quit now I don’t know what’s the next step what should I do what should I say or what if someone can help it would be great

  206. hello i have been smoking spice for 4 months and the first time i tired it i thought it was weed, till i noticed i was on a high i had never felt before ( n I’ve been smoking weed since i was 14, I’m 26) at first i would just take a hit or two and i would be fucken sky high then i started smoking it more often it got the the point were i built a tolerance and i needed more and more to get me high. then i started smoking everyday i noted as more time went on i had to keep smoking more and more one time after another, i did noticed i started to get headaches and a horrible cough that won’t go away, but nothing to serious, it wasn’t until this past weekend that i believe suffered an overdose form this shit … i had smoked a joint by myself of some 5x spice then i hit a bowl of what I’m guessing was 10x i took 2 big hits and held them in long, shortly after i felt so fucken high, i felt like a cartoon, like everything wasn’t real, i had an urge to vomit , so i went to the rest room where i was sweating bullets and my heart was racing so fast, my face turned pale and my lips too i felt like i was gona die, i too felt like if my brain was on fire, its a feeling you can’t explain, good thing is i kept my self calm and jus tried to cool down i knew it would go down… but not gona lie i got so fucken skerd.. i really thought i was gona die for a second there … the next day i smoked on the way to work always smoke and drive.. and the weird thing happen to me. i got so high i thougt i was close to my work already i could swear i was on the street then i snapped out of andy realize i was on a whole other street not even close to where i thought it was .. its like my brain skipped and i don’t even remember driving or what happen.. a friend told me he’s heard a lot of bad surf about spice so i decided to look it up and i can relate wit a lot of these comments..

  207. About two years ago I had an experience that can be called a hallucination, but it felt like so much more. I have taken all sorts of drugs, weed, coke, acid, shrooms, ex, oxys, and I have never had any kind of out of body experience on any of them (unfortunately lol)…but when I had the hallucination I had not been on anything except for weed that my friend shared with me. Now I realize that it must have had synthetic in it, because the experience I had was out of this world. I came home after smoking the “weed” and laid down to sleep. I dreamed (or hallucinated) that I had gotten arrested at work. When I woke up, I had to call my boss and check out that everything was okay, because it just felt so real. The next night when I laid down on my bed (after not smoking anything at all!) I felt my body slip into a semi-conscious state. It was almost like meditating. If I focused just enough, I “popped” into this alternate world. It was amazing. My whole family was there, in this weird cartoon. Everyone was happy, in harmony, and I felt so happy. This was my heaven. And I had come to find it before I had to die. In this alternate world, my cartoon mom told me that every night when I went to sleep that I would be able to come visit. It was like this big secret that I was allowed in on because I came across it myself. The thing is, I would have been able to easily pass this off as a crazy dream, except that for the next few nights, I was able to return to this world. And when I woke up in the morning, I believed that this REALLY happened to me, 100%. Now I know that it was this synthetic drug that did this to my brain after reading all these posts. I told my boyfriend about this hallucination and he was scared for me. He thought I was having a nervous breakdown. I had no idea at the time what could have caused it, because for all I knew I had just smoked some pot, no big deal. Anyway…I didnt touch this stuff again until I got put on probation about a year ago.
    This stuff is bad news! I never really thought about the side effects until recently. When I first started, it always gave me a really good high. It was intense, but nothing I couldn’t handle. It was like an everyday thing. The high only lasted like 20 minutes, so I of course smoked more of it. I developed a mild smokers cough. I didn’t even notice I was coughing so much until my mom asked me about it. I realized that I wasnt breathing as well as I had in the past. But yet, I kept smoking it, because frankly I just wanted to get high, and a cough wasnt really that big of a deal. About two months after I started smoking it, I started getting nauseous everyday and throwing up whatever I put in my stomach. I looked past this side effect as well. I wanted to beat the drug tests I was given for probation, and synthetic was the only thing I thought I could get away with. And I liked the high. Watching a movie high on the stuff was amazing, and just sitting quietly I would think about crazy things. I would have these sudden “realizations” that I would have never thought about otherwise. I would get tiny flashbacks of my previous hallucination of my cartoon world. More than a few times, I smoked way too much of this stuff to see if it would send me back there. Synthetic really makes you lose your mind! I thought it was cool at first, because of the trippy highs and all, but then the high kind of turned. I would take a hit, and my lungs would literally feel like they were going to collapse. My brain would feel like it was expanding, and I felt the center of my brain tightening, like I could feel my brain being damaged. My heart would race, and no matter how much I tried, I couldnt get it to slow down. I have gained like 20 pounds for no reason. I feel so stupid at times, and I was always a great student. Almost all the symptoms that are on this blog, I have experienced some time in my usage. I would get so PARANOID. I would hear voices in the wall. I would hear my parents talking in the next room about me, like they knew I was high and smoking in my room, but they werent busting me, they were just talking about it. I know my parents. If they thought I was smoking in my bedroom, they would flip out. They wouldnt just whisper and not say anything to me. I am not religious, but when I was high on this stuff, I would feel an evil presence. I see shadows pass by me when Im alone, I look out my window and see people standing outside in the darkness, but when my mom looks theres no one there. I am so afraid I might be schizophrenic. I feel like my lungs are damaged, but I dont want to get them checked. I dont want my parents to find out Ive been smoking. I am an adult (22) so I shouldnt be afraid of them, but I dont want them to be disappointed. This thread has made me stop smoking this stuff for good. I havent smoked any in two days, and I am surprised that I havent had any withdrawal symptoms. I smoked this stuff everyday (at least 2 bowls, usually way more). But this blog has made me realize all the side effects. I will so rather wait and smoke pot whenI get off probation than kill myself over this poison. I hope someone will read this. PLEASE DON’T SMOKE SYNTHETIC! If you want to get high, smoke weed. If you really want to trip out (although I advise against it) take shrooms! Anything is better than this awful drug. It is killing people. Straight up. Throughout this entire blog, I have not seen ANYONE try to defend this drug. When there isn’t even one stupid person that thinks this stuff wont harm you really bad or worse, that is a big red flag saying STOP AND THINK! I will post back after a while to tell how I am feeling. I really hope these effects will go away.

  208. @Kris I just read this post from way above from July from you. In the ending of your post you state this “fact” about a man who smoked spice once, thinks he’s a glass of Orange juice & doesn’t want people to “tip him over”. I’ve heard this story years ago. This is a rumor that’s been around for at least decades. When I heard it as a teen, it was a man who did Acid & ended up this way. There may be someone out there with this problem, but they didn’t inspire this story. NOT to say it couldn’t happen, just that the story is too similar to the one I’d heard, so it fits into “rumor” category. Just wanted to clarify this.. I’m sure there are many out there who’ve heard this story as well. Spice can cause things like that to happen, I’d just never heard that story applied to spice use before.

  209. Poisoned- Thanks for your information. My son is 32 years old and has been doing drugs since he was a teenager. Five different times I arranged for him inhouse drug rehab. None of the times did he want to go or did he want help. All he has to do for visitation of his daughter, is start drug counseling. He puts his drugs before his daughter and has not seen her for over 5 years. I thought that when he had the choice between drugs and his daughter, he would pick his daughter. But that has never happen.

    Now he is on synthetic drugs. He calls them “mr. Happy”. It smells like potpurri. I have asked him over and over again to stop. His behavior is worse than I have ever seen in my life. And he has been on crack and meth before, but never this extreme behavior. I really don’t know how to stop him. He has never held a job. He is on food stamps and lives in one of my rental properties. Doesn’t pay any bills. This time when i visited him, I offered to give him a car if he would stop the synthetic drug. No response. He would not give up this drug, so he would have transportation. This drug seems to be more addictive than anything he has taken before. His memory is really bad and he shakes all the time. I am almost scared to be around him. In fact, I am scared to be around him. I never know how he will react. He has no insurance which makes it worse. But he will never voluntarily go to treatment. He does see a psychologist sometimes. But it is one of his buddies that really agrees with everything that he does.

    I can’t sleep at night wondering when he will die or have a heart attack. It is easy to say get him off the drugs, BUT how do you do this. He won’t listen to me and all his friends are doing the same stuff.

    IF ANYONE CAN HELP ME I SURE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. I AM LOST ON WHAT TO DO NEXT. He is killing himself and he lives in denial. Thanks for all your help.

  210. Thank you very much for your encouraging words, Jaseeka1986. I really appreciate it. Very kind of you. How long after you stopped smoking it, did it take you to feel back to yourself? And do you feel 100% back?

    @ Loving Mother

    He needs to get off it NOW. PERIOD. Okay? He might be trying to pass a drug test to keep a job, but he may also kill you and end up in prison for the rest of his life as a zombie or dead himself which would be better probably.

    This is SERIOUS.

    The problem with this is that people don’t stop (if they stop) until something BAD happens and IF they can recover it’s hard to return to normal again and when they do stop they go through major withdrawl and anger and are emotionally imbalanced for a while.

    WATCH YOURSELF and your belongings until he is OFF of it. Get him back on natural weed (if you have to go buy it yourself) and get him some psychological help so he can get off drugs period and they can show him how to be a productive adult who’s proud of himself.

    GET HIM TO READ THIS THREAD.

    I’ve experienced this. It AIN’T PRETTY.

  211. Has anyone fully recovered? I read some blogs but all stated the negatives. My experience was terrible as well. I felt like the devil was taking me to hell. I builtt an alternate reality around this in which I was doomed. I am barely just now snapping out its been almost five months. I experienced cold sweats, rapid hearbeat, and a falling feeling like ny brain was exploding. I thought my friend was gonna kill me. It killed all cravings though and I’ve been sober for around four months. I guess my question is if anyone came back from this???

  212. Hi
    Can anyone above relate to have to having very prominent eye floaters after bad experience. I see them everywhere now. I just had a bad panic attack compared to the hell some you you went through. After my panic attack I awoke the following morning with hypochondria. I just could not stop worrying about my health. Especially my eyes and vision. I had tons of anxiety as well which lasted for over 1 and 1/2. Is it a kind of HPPD or just anxiety.

  213. So glad to hear that some of you are actually getting better. I have posted before to tell you that my 27 year old grandson smoked various kinds of synthetic spice during the summer of 2011, The short story is, that he became completely psychotic in October of 2011 and was in a mental hospital for two months. They released him, even though he was nowhere near “normal”. The way it affected his brain was that he became like a child in many ways. He was working part-time and going to college to become a computer programmer. He was unable to function in any capacity that would allow that anymore. I have never seen such a complete personality change. He became very sweet and concerned about me and his mother and others. He found just about everything very funny and laughed out loud, even when it was inappropriate. He was very paranoid and anxious and went everywhere his mother went. He is bipolar so that may be why this stuff hit him so hard, but that was under control when he started using it. We are now ten months out and I can say that he has started acting more normal. He is far from well and still unable to work. He is taking a computer class now so we will be able to see if he can concentrate and learn again. It has been a long, slow road back, but hopefully he will eventually be whole again. It definitely damaged his brain. He takes several meds plus he has to have some kind of shot every three weeks to try to control his anxiety. Please listen to the stories posted here and stop or never start before you do terrible harm to your mind and your body. Good luck to each of you.

  214. ive ben smocking spice for about 3 or 4 years now never had anything happen to change my mind untill here recently i smoked some stuff and it was easily the scariest nite of my life i would promise that god was speaking to me i was so terrifified i thought he was goin to send me to hell for all my sins and all i could do was pray for mercy i wasnt really a believer until then now i believ in good 100 percent.i think everyone needs to stop smokin this stuff before something like this happens and trust me it will sooner or later its easier to just quit then to have something this tramatic happen.if you arent stopin because of the withdraws all you have to do is put the fake stuff down and switch to reall for about 3 days because the reall thing isnt addictive.

  215. EVERYONE PLEASE READ:

    Me and my friend used to smoke this everyday all day.. I was going through a rough time and had nothing better to do and hated my life so why not i thought.. DONT DO IT! Yea at the time i hated my life and needed something to pick me up but dont let it be this incense… I tried so many different brands and it really mentally messed me up in the long run… For those of you who had a bad high from this drug which i know a lot of you had.. imagine a year down the road your mental state starts to slowly turn into the panics of the bad high.. Recently after quitting this for just under a year i been getting panic attacks. and they get worse and worse.. and the only thing i can relate the panic attack to is the panic attacks you get when you have a bad high… unless you wanna be stuck with the bad high of the spice for the rest of your life i suggest you STOP NOWWW, im just warning you all.. everyone says im fine but im not. I get panic attacks, i feel like im gonna die, i get sharp pains in my chest, i constantly think im seriously ill as if i have cancer or some hidden serious medical problem.. paranoia gets really bad.. the way my brain works is obviously different. im not as smart. i forget things really easily. dont ruin your life for a 20 min high… please. coming from someone with experience..

  216. @POISONED I’m so sorry to hear about your experience. After I was poisoned by it all I would call this substance was “poison.” It’s not anything close to a drug. I will not refer to it as a drug. I smoked daily since Winter of 2010 until March 4th, 2012. I will never forget that day, the month preceding it & the following 3 months after. I went completely insane for a total of 4 months. My life has been ruined because of this(Can’t get into how, it’s embarrassing). I’m all about taking responsibility for your actions, but I had no wherewithal, no idea what was going on. Was in Hell daily. But I don’t want you to think for a second this will happen to you. It’s all about how much you smoked. It built up completely in my system, so of course, it took forever to get out of my system. I wanted to write to you to give you hope. I am my normal self again. Trust me please, when I tell you you will be ok. I want to answer a couple of your questions you ended your post with. First, no, you have not screwed your brain for good. Any effects you are feeling right now WILL go away. I promise they will. I used to get angry(when I was suffering from psychosis from this stuff plus the withdraw from it on top of it) when people told me “It will get better” or “I feel great now, life’s good” – also completely opposite of my normal behavior to get angry over anything! I was suffering so badly from it it made me hate life & made me not have a grasp on reality. As in, I was just “not there” or “with it”. So I couldn’t & wouldn’t believe them. I felt like I was in a bad dream 24/7(while smoking the poison & directly after quitting), like I was underwater as far as my brain & thinking ability. So when people told me these things, I didn’t believe them & could see no way things could get any better. It screwed me & my thinking up for a while, but I got through it, it did get better, SO much better. It’s night & day comparing then to now. I went through the absolute worst of the worst of the psychosis induced by this poison & subsequent withdraw symptoms, that I know exactly what I’m talking about, I’ve been there, POISONED(Don’t know your name). You will recover from this, and very soon! It will not take you anything near the amount of time I spoke of earlier, that was caused by doing this poison all day every day for about a year & a half. Thank God you were smart enough to have stopped when you did. So you don’t get hurt anymore, I’mso sorry you’re in pain & suffered those injuries. You will get your cognitive back. It took me a while to be able to laugh again, think objectively, and problem solve, but it DID come back. You must know this & know I’m telling you the absolute truth. I didn’t think I’d ever be “right” again, but I’m back to normal now, my intelligence is back to what it once was. As for you saying that a co-worker looked at you & said, “Where are you at?” I went through the SAME thing! I had co-workers look at me & ask me a SIMPLE question & all I could say was,”Uhhh, ummm..” with a completely blank stare on my face. Wtf? How embarrassing is that? I wasn’t even smoking at this time, I forgot to tell you I’d suffered brain damage from the last time I used, almost died(not just a bad trip – it’s insulting that people would assume I don’t know the difference, I’m very experienced with drug use & trips), so this coupled with the withdrawel, I simply could not function, let alone think. But I can, now! 🙂 So you must know that it does get better. You will love life again, and very soon. You will feel love & happiness very soon. Your memory WILL return. I thought the same exact questions you have just asked! But no one was there to tell me things were going to be better, especially someone who’d actually been there. This is why I try & help people as much as possible, who’re going through this, because I know exactly how helpless you feel while going through it. I’m sure you’ve gone through the worst of it already, the fact you’re as articulated & what you’ve articulated in your posts speaks to this. It will just get better & better every day. The main thing to focus on now is what you’re doing as stated in your posts, getting healthy: Drink plenty of fluids, keep juicing, cut all the garbage out of your diet. Try the AyurVedic diet, people have been following it for thousands of years & they know what they’re talking about. It will speed your recovery time exponentially! The garbage(junk food & any processed foods, any food/meat with GMOs, anti-biotics, hormones et cetera) we consume weighs our brains & bodies down, slowing recovery. On top of it all, fresh food TASTES better! ..Imagine that.. 🙂 You can let this become your new obsession. Getting healthy & creating a better body & mind, a purer body & mind. I hope your head & knee are feeling better. Did the doc check them out? Is the prognosis good? I know knee injuries can be extremely painful & can affect daily living. I hope you’ve not sustained too much damage, so you’re not in pain. Thank God no one got hurt while we both were doing this poison(physically at least, emotions, as you’ve recognized as well, can be out of whack & affect others, but if they’re understanding they’ll know we weren’t in our right minds, and they’ll forgive us)! We were fortunate it was only US who got hurt. I don’t know about you but I’ll take myself getting hurt over others anyday. Your emotional balance will return. The withdrawel process causes emotional imbalance. I was SO happy to find out the psychosis I was suffering from was mainly caused by withdraw(otherwise from the brain damage from this poison), because using logic/reasoning this means it has to get better, it will get better(because it’s soon out of your system for good). The fact you only did this for a week is great in the withdrawel aspect, because the time you’ll suffer imbalance will be significantly shorter than many out there who’ve done it for extreme amounts of time. Try to meditate, this should help as well. It will bring you peace. I love different Indian Raga(you ended your post with Namaste, so I thought you may be particularly interested). A night raga from Shruti Sadolikar is one of my favs to listen to while meditating or just trying to relax.
    If you use YouTube & are interested search this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQBSkESiuZI
    It’s absolutely gorgeous. I recommend that link to anyone who likes art..
    Some good advice that helped me, or would’ve helped me had I been thinking clearly.. would be the following. Watch funny things on the TV & Internet, surround yourself with trusted & loving family members. This helps with the comfort level. Watching & surrounding yourself with good, peaceful or funny things will help with the attitude that comes naturally with going through this. Having hope & knowing in your heart – which I need for you to believe & know in your heart is completely true, because it’s fact – will help with everyday until things are more apparently getting better. You’ll regain your natural thinking process & happiness very, very soon. I’d say in two weeks tops you’ll be feeling SO much better. The month point was a milestone for me, as many others, I actually could smile & laughed for the first time. It was just out of the blue while watching something funny on the internet. That gave me such hope! Man, how we take things for granted! I was so grateful to have only laughed. So was my father, he told me he loved it when I laughed, because i hadn’t for soo long because of this. This stuff had done such a number on me. Now, I can perform my job well again, I can think fast as I could before, I can LOVE again. Love left me during my psychosis. I had no emotions. Very scary thing feeling no emotions, I’m pretty sure that is the definition of a psychopath, one who feels no emotion. Though I knew it was wrong, so I was ok as far as not acting upon any wrong thoughts. I no longer have bad thoughts or think of death constantly, other side effects from this poison. Don’t feel ashamed, ok? We didn’t know this would happen. No one can fault us for that. I can tell you are intelligent. We are both smart & this still happened, therefor it can happen to anyone. No one knew to warn us, no one knew of these side effects to have warned us. We thought this was an alternative to marijuana that wouldn’t show up in drug tests. The fact is, which I know you know now, too, that this stuff isn’t anything near Marijuana. It’s a complete falsity. It’s ruined many people’s lives because of this marketing technique. We know better now, and are spreading the word to others, if anything by just telling our story & experience with this poison. So I just had to write you to try and give you some hope. Sorry if I was a little dark here & there, I just wanted you to know I’ve been there & know what I’m talking about, & that I care & made it through & so you will, too. I had to let you know that you WILL be better, you will feel better very soon. I promise it will. This tough time only lasts for a short amount of time, it’s the withdraw process.
    You seem to be very intelligent, and you will not lose this, ok? You will get smarter & smarter. And going through this experience has made you wiser. We’re both now educated on the dangers of this drug & have learned important life lessons through this experience. This will & has made us stronger individuals. God bless you & take it easy, get rest. Plenty of rest, get good exercise in when you can. Just being active is great, because many suffer from low energy going through this(Especially before they quit & directly after because many don’t eat well or at all – I got down to 98 lbs!! I now weigh a healthy 118(I’m 5’3″)) Try to surround yourself with love. Love is what it’s all about. It’s the reason we’re here. It’s what everyone needs to sustain their lives & existence. This whole Universe is about love. Love is what’s important. Always remember this. 🙂 Again, God Bless you & I hope this letter/post finds you feeling well, or better. I’m sending love to you that you feel better & receive strength for this. Much, much love to you, -Jessica 🙂

  217. Well I’d been a weed smoker and a kinda go with the flow kind of guy but a few months ago I was at a party with my girlfriend and like usual was tryna get messed up. The whole “ima teen” “you only live once” type attitude and an old friend passed me a bowl of what I thought was weed. So I hit it ridiculously hard because at parties you often don’t get a second hit. I immediately started saying “Man im fucked up” but still was in control at that point. Then I went and sat next to my girlfriend and thats when it set in. I don’t remember getting to the point of losing myself but I remember when I was gone. All I could do was yell to my girlfriend of my distress. Continuously yelling her name grabbing her face and hair as she cried over me and everyone around looked in terror. I then was picked up by the arms by friends as they tried to control me but to me all I could see were arms reaching out of darkness trying to grab me. And I was not about to let em touch me so I fought for my life and finally came to and threw up. As I came back to myself I started remembering my friends as id forgotten them in the trip. Id forgotten my entire life. I remember at one point I wasnt in my body. I was just watching myself freak out from inside myself. I was completely calm but my body ,which id lost control of ,was screaming in terror for help. I now know without a doubt that our bodies are mere vessels and we are something greater. But I don’t ask for anyone to believe me as you’ll all see one day. And In one last statement as this whole remembrance has been painful. Some people will say that people like me who have freaked out are “pussies” and “just couldn’t take it”. Well this message is not for them. This message is for all those fortunate enough to not have experienced it yet or people looking for someone else who had a bad experience like them. No matter if you can “take it” or not, your body is taking a beating and you ARE slowly driving yourself insane. Spice messes with your brain and WILL cause problems. But if you don’t want to listen, dont. Try it for yourself and experience a pure hell that makes death look like a relief. You may not get it after the first time you smoke it. Or the second even, but one day you’ll experience the terror that I describe and you will be infuriated with yourself for not heeding my warning. So smoke, toke and fall right into your own trap of pain. But for those who may listen. Please, please, please know that this Drug is not a person and will have no mercy when you’re at its effect. I’ve seen people beg for the effects to be lifted as if the drug is negotiable. After you smoke it there’s no turning back. Months of handicapping agony that nobody can help because spice is so new and has no treatment set up. It’s not worth it and every part of me is telling whoever reads this to NEVER put yourself through this. I made the idiotic mistake and now cant enjoy a simple trip to the bathroom without stopping myself from having a panic attack from the memory of the spice. I even doubt reality sometimes. Might have to see a psychiatric professional. But if after all that (and I swear I exaggerated nothing at all), you still want to smoke any brand or variation of it? Go ahead. You may have already smoked it and now are under its control subconsciously and thats why you still want to. But some people just need to be burned before they see why not to touch the flame. I would NEVER have stopped smoking but after that I will never touch a mind altering substance. Heed my warning or don’t and see for yourself. That is all.

  218. Can anyone help. I have never done drugs, so I am at a loss for the effects on individuals. My son is smoking Happy Hour. He has smoke pot for over 15 years. But since he is on probation, he must take drug tests. He started smoking Happy Hour about six weeks ago. I have never seen him so high. He is totally confused with severe memory loss. His body shakes and his eyes are dilated. He can not carry a good conversation with you. He is totally a mental wreck. However, he does not believe me. He thinks it is fine, since it is legal. I am afraid of the brain damage already caused and the future affects of this drug. I don’t know how to get him to listen to reason. Please give me suggestions to help my son. He is 32 years old and has never had a job for more than a week.

  219. Hey guys. I tried this for the first time last week with my boy. We only took a hit each every like hour or so for just a bit to get a vibe while playing Madden. It was kind of meh, it was far from enjoyable but it wasn’t crazy. Well 2 days ago I rez scraped my bowl and was taking rez whacks. All it took was one fat rez whack of this to send me spiraling into an alternate world. About 5 minutes in my heart started beating abnormally fast, I’m talking I couldn’t feel any stops in it, it just felt like a machine gun. I went on my bed and curled up, a minute later my whole body felt like I was rolling off Ecstacy, my heart was racing on coke, and I was hallucinating like I was on PCP all simultaneously. I thought my eyes were closed since I was hallucinating but they were wide awake. I kept hearing a dark voice in my head saying to kill myself, and to kill my mom. Now keep in mind I am a very mentally structured individual. I read about a book or two a week – all insightful material. I couldn’t move – I couldn’t stand. I had to roll off my bed to get my phone off my desk to call my mother. She was 2 hours away so I had to stick it out – after an hour the full fledged effect went away but I was still really messed up, just able to walk and think a bit better. My pupils covered my whole eye, I saw no blue whatsoever. So tonight, about 12 AM. This starts happening again – and I didn’t even smoke it. I started having cold sweats, heart beating insanely fast, chattering of my teeth and shaking hardcore. I went down stairs and had my mother bring me to the hospital. I had no control over my emotions, I didn’t know what was happening to me. I wanted to die. When she brought me tonight, I got blood tests, and there where traces of Methamphetamine as well as other substances. I don’t understand how a legal substance can be this messed up for you and put actual hard drugs in it. I’m afraid this new found paranoia I have won’t go away. My mind doesn’t think I am paranoid but I constantly find myself jarting my eyes left to right left to right and chomping on my nails. I strongly urge never to try this EVER. And will this paranoia go away? I am scared what brilliance I have is being replaced by a melted butter plate.

  220. There is no FDA, USDA okay-ing this product. It’s hard to illegalize it because it is sold as “Incense”. The packaging clearly says, “DO NOT INHALE”, “NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION”, but was invented in a college chem lab by someone with the initials JWH with the intention of making a cannibis off-shoot.

    Now John W Henry gravely regrets creating this chemical because he’s seen how badly it has spiraled out of control. This is what the naked Miami man was on when he ATE another man’s face. He smoked so much of this stuff he lost his MIND and was enraged.

    They spray it with all kinds of deadly chemicals for us to consume.

    I’ve done my research now.

    My Update:

    Well, my reasoning is still messed up. My motor skills are still not completely returned; I find myself losing balance on my feet. My emotions are still up and down. One day awesome, next day not so good. Sounds like bi-polar..great.

    It’s been 2 1/2 weeks, my voice is still gone, I’m still coughing so hard that I shake and have to spit out brown phlegm.

    My head is scabbed over. But, I twisted my right knee somehow during that episode. I don’t remember. I do remember it being swollen, but now it’s cracking whenever I move it.

    After people eating other people, people running around crazily and naked, losing their minds, the ER reports, the government is cracking down on this.

    The packaging is what is so messed up. They make it seem so harmless. Smoke that for a week straight, hitting it every 10 minutes. You’ll know what HURT is. You will find that you NO LONGER feel like yourself again. Your thinking is different, you’re angry, you wanna rip someone’s head off for walking in front of your car or bumping into you; WHATEVER.

    Or…do yourself a favor and take it from us and DON’T. There’s nothing scarier then thinking after just a week episode and you will never be the same……

    Empty, rageful, poisoned body mulling through life.

  221. Hey all, after reading everything here, I decided it was time to weigh in. As a natural substance only smoker for close to 10 years, I recently moved to a new town, and found out that my younger brother has also started smoking. I was unaware that he was using synthetics, as I had been maintaining an ‘anti’ synthetic stance since their conception. Deciding that I cannot make claims without factual evidence, I joined him and a friend of his one night when they were headed out to smoke a bowl of Gorilla Dro/Armaggedon mixture. I should note here, that I have also tried salvia once, when it was legal, and that the hit and subsequent exhale of smoke was almost identical to that of synthetic bud. A massive depression of respiratory system, followed by a feeling of emptiness in the lungs was the first thing I noticed, after the first hit. As I forced myself to regulate breathing, I took my second hit. As soon as I began exhaling, the substance found its way into my system, and everything took a massive downhill-turn from there. My heart rate increased higher than it has ever reached in 24 years of life, and the resulting blast of heightened color-awareness I can only assume came from an increased strain of blood oxygen to the brain. I immediately regretted my decision, and began losing my grasp on the world around me. I could hardly speak, I felt as though I was having a heart attack, and immediately began considering dying from this absolutely stupid stuff. Deciding against pursuing such thoughts, I began walking, pacing, more like. This was an effort to again regulate the blood pumping and frantic pounding of my heart. My hands and fingers were shaking like leaves, and I knew that if I died, I needed to have my brother and his friend near the car to take me to a hospital, or at least make it home. In a moment of sheer stupidity, I headed back to the truck, and attempted to unlock the door with the key. I make no exaggeration in saying that I was physically incapable of getting the key into the lock due to my shaking hands and lack of cohesion between my brain and visual centers. Finally after unlocking it, we all climbed into the truck, and prepared to go. Somewhere from within the depths of my mind came my conscience, which was screaming not to drive, or even move from the area. Thankfully I had enough self control to listen, and told them that we wouldn’t be going anywhere. At this point I was almost 90% lost, I couldn’t remember anything, I couldn’t focus on anything other than my impending heart attack, and what the consequences would be for the other two young teens in the truck. In a final attempt to reign myself in, I caught sight of myself (accidentally) in the rear view mirror. I studied my pupils, which were normal, if not slightly dilated, and somehow connected this fact with my reality. For some unknown reason, I felt instantly soothed, and knew that I would be okay. I removed myself, and the other two from the truck, and told them that we would be going for a walk, as long as it took, for me to come down. About halfway back to the spot we had smoked at, everything relaxed. My heart rate reduced, my blood flow felt normal, and I actually seemed to enjoy the high. I know now, that this was simply my brain again receiving natural oxygen flow, and because my muscle contractions were forcing blood back to my body. The heightened colors, headache, and mild anxiety continued until the next day. This is bad stuff. Horrible stuff. And children and teens are using it as an accepted and trusted substitute to naturally grown marijuana. It is NEITHER. I HIGHLY recommend an intervention-type scenario for everyone that knows ANYONE regularly using this, because the long term effects from even MILD usage are going to be completely negative. For all of you that experienced even 25% of the symptoms you’ve all agreed upon, and yet continued usage for up to or over a year, I am seriously questioning your judgement. The first signs of bodily harm, especially if the harm is only alleviated after continuous use, should have told you to back the fuck off. We may be ‘guinea pigs’ for this trash, but it is only because you’ve convinced yourselves that it is worth continued use. My recommendation is that you immediately quit, or find some professional or family help in doing so. And never allow ANYONE YOU KNOW to continue using it! I have made it my goal to stop all of this activity, in every person I meet. And will only advocate naturally grown herb, or no intoxicants at all. Nothing is worth what this is doing to our bodies. Nothing. PS=To the idiot children claiming that it must be useable because the ‘government okays it’… You are completely ignorant of the truth. The government does not need to okay, much less test, any of these products. The FDA does not even test a massive percentage of the products that people eat and drink, as testing these products is a multi-year ordeal, and they are not REQUIRED PER FEDERAL LAW to test the products bearing their seal of approval. Educate yourselves, beyond reading blog comments, before you potentially harm or kill a reading passerby.

  222. I’d like to share my experience. I tried this synthetic poison a few times, but just a few puffs, half a joint and then pass out high as hell. I would wake up fine. That was about 2 years ago. Haven’t touched it since 2 weeks ago.
    I have had issues with addiction, but I’ve been fighting to be strong and change my life. I’m more accomplished now, making more money, bettering my credit, really just climbing the ladder in my life.
    A week ago exactly, because my girlfriend doesn’t like me pounding down beer, I decided it would be a GRAND idea to get that ‘fake weed’.
    I smoke cigarettes (which I’m so ready to quit especially after what I went through). I smoke outside. So I got this stuff and some papers. My girlfriend noticed I was smoking what she thought was cigarettes every 10-15 minutes. She said she would look at me and I would be sitting on the couch looking up at the clock like a fiend. And she was right. The high was so short and the withdrawl BIG.

    ********1st night – Saturday
    I smoked just a joint and ate about 15 trail mix bars and then threw them up outside.
    *******2nd night – Sunday
    Same thing, just smoked MORE, vomited outside again.
    ****FASTFORWARD………Wed/Thurs/Fri/Sat
    Girlfriend leaves because I’m ignoring her and she reads up on this stuff and doesn’t feel safe because my behavior was like a crackhead, like there was NO soul in my eyes. I didn’t CARE about anything, but smoking the stuff.
    —-Woke up on my side on the concrete with my head split open. I must have passed out. There was blood everywhere. I didn’t care.
    My clothes were dirty. I looked like a crack addict. My back and leg were badly bruised. I DO NOT know how it happened.

    NOW – Monday 8-13-12
    Last Monday I was rushed to the hospital. My girlfriend had mercy on me and my anger and addiction and was compassionate.
    ***I couldn’t BREATHE. I had almost no lung capacity, I was so, SO mentally out of it. Coughing SO HARD, hyperventilating. She took me to the ER.

    They rushed me in, put oxygen on me immediately, took blood and told me “That stuff, “Spice” is poison, did you know that? We have been seeing an insurgence here with these cases, but mostly when it’s too late.”

    My mind is SLOW, MEMORY IS GONE. I can’t remember what someone said in the conversation I’m having. I had someone say yesterday at work, “Where are you??”. My girlfriend will say something and I will forget or not EVEN hear what she said and create my own reality.

    My cough is horrible. A week of constant hacking my lungs out. Spitting up phlegm constantly.

    My stomach muscles are just aching from the coughing.

    I feel SO TIRED. I STILL have dark circles under my eyes and I haven’t smoked that rat poison in a week now.

    I have been juicing and eating so healthy just to help rid this out of my poor body!!! I feel so bad that I did that to my body.

    I feel scared, horrible about how I’ve been acting around my girlfriend. I’m ERRATIC!!!!

    The other morning, my emotions are messed up, my vision, my gf said one thing and it hurt my feelings and I cried, which turned to anger and I punched the wall and tore down the shower curtain flipping out.

    POISON

    I will **NnnnNNEVER touch any of that AGAIN.

    BROTHERS, SISTERS DON”T TOUCH THIS STUFF. YOU WILL LOSE YOUR M I N D

    I am doing everything to get myself recovered from just a WEEK with that stuff.

    I’ve had to lie to people saying I have a respiratory infection.

    When I woke up on the concrete with blood all over, I sat up with dirty clothes, a big cigarette burn on my knee, and I felt a warm drip on my ear, it was blood leaking from the top of my head to the back of my ear and down my neck and I didn’t EVEN CARE. I stayed out there.

    I finally went to sleep and threw a shirt on my pillow to catch the blood. It leaked the entire night through the shirt and all the way through the pillow.

    $5,000.00 hospital bill. Embarrassment on how that turned me into a crackhead in a matter of days, embarrassment that my GF SAW me like that, that I let myself get to that point!!!!

    And the whopper: have I screwed my brain for good? Can I recover from this? Can I get my full cognitive back? My memory? My FOCUS? My emotional balance? My calm?

    CHOOSE LOVE AND HAPPINESS and SOBRIETY, HEALTH

    DUMP THAT STUFF IF YOU HAVE IT

    SMOKE WEED if you have to..

    Just wanted to share. I feel mentally retarded. I’m just hoping sooner than later I return to normal.

    Namaste –

  223. I’ve been smoking this stuff on a regular basis for over a year now. I’ve had anxiety fits and bad headaches, but last night something very scary happened. I woke up out of a dead sleep and I was completely lost. My vision was messed up and my whole room was wiggling around. I couldn’t remember who I was or where I was. I had a strong feeling that I was in hell …or rather, I was about to be taken into hell and I was waiting. I was completely confused and terrified. My roommate and my friend were sleeping downstairs and heard me screaming. I didn’t even know who they were at first. I had a paranoid idea in my head that they were demons (sounds dumb, I know) and that they were trying to trick me into letting down my guard. They talked me through it with simple questions (what’s your name, where is your house, etc). With their help, I started to regain composure. It was possibly the most terrifying experience in my life. I never believed anyone about the weird side effects, but I can ignore what happened to me. I flushed the rest of the stuff down the toilet (the brand was called K4 and it came in a beige baggy). I’m nervous about the withdraw effects. I have tried to quit before, but could never do it. I’m hoping that after last night, I won’t have too much of a compulsion to do it again. I NEVER BELIEVED THE WARNINGS, BUT NOW I WISH I HAVE. TAKE MY ADVISE AND STOP BEFORE YOU HAVE A TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE.

  224. I think this substance is very toxic. My husband started smoking it . about 6 or 8 months ago. He was coughing alot and acting stupid. He denied it over and over, but I knew something bad was happening to his health, and several times I found the empty packages hidden in his room. He has lost about 35 pounds and vomits almost every day. He could be just fine and in an instant just start vomiting and couldnt eat. He would wake up and vomit. He looks like hes been in a prison camp for a year. He has this awful cough that wont go away. He has kidney stones frequently and pains in his stomach. His teeth have turned all brown looking with cavities between even his front teeth. He has frequent toothaches and his teeth have started breaking off and abcessing causing his face to swell. I swear, he was a healthy looking, normal 33 year old man before this stuff and now he has gone all to hell. I have never seen such a sickly person with so many ailments. He said he doesnt smoke it anymore and I havent found anymore packages but of course he would throw them away now instead of hiding it from me. I DESPISE any type of substance abuse and he knows it. I hate to see him destroy his health, but all I can do is ask him to stop. Anyone who messes with this stuff is going to pay a big price in the end. It will make you sick.

  225. Please. if you are thinking about smoking it. Don’t. I smoked pot probably every other day for a year or so. I had many friends who
    Had tried spice and said it wasn’t that bad so I decided to give it a shot with a buddy. We went to the headshop and had some guy buy us “coconut dreemz” . We went home and packed a bowl. After one hit. I was gone. This drug isn’t like weed. I felt like I was in a cartoon video game. Like I was somebodys puppet. Being forced to laugh. My heart was beating faster than ever before. I thought my friend was evil. A demon for letting me try it. I was thinking about calling 911 but decided to just drink a couple glasses of water. I kept forgetting to breathe. I felt like a ghost just here to observe earth. Every thought seemed to hit me at once. A Min felt like a week. My friend was repeating The same sentence” I’m thinking about it” for a legit 10 mins just staring. I hallucinated tiki face things everywhere. I decided to go drink more water and lay down and wait it out. After i came down. I was scared to go to bed. Not knowing if i was gonna wake up or not. So I prayed. And I’m very happy I did. I still don’t feel the same. I look at things differently now. I’m still scared to go to bed. Like I’m still observing like a ghost. I feel phychotic. But I believe I will be normal in due time. It seems like time is the only answer by reading
    Everyone elses comments. Wish me luck. And keep me in your prayers as I shall with all of you.

  226. spices long term affects are loss of appitite, liver enlargement, damaged esophagas, bad withdrals if trying to stop, and heart problems i know because i did it for a yeay 10 times a day and i have(had) all if these. sorry for the spelling.

  227. I did want to add,,,,,, my worste wd’s from the synthetics was from jwh 210,,,,, the high lasted for hrs….. I would smoke sunday night,,, go on the road monday and be sick all week until i got home to smoke again,,,
    The ur 144’s wd’s are just like mj wd’s for me.
    I smoke sunday,,, i feel crappy in the am until wednesday,,,then i feel fine,,,i can eat, sleep, work, laugh, smile, and even have intercourse,,lol
    AM 2201 killed my libido, and so did am 2201,,,,,
    I think since Ive been through opiate and benzo wd’s that the wd’s from synthetics are tolerable.
    I need to quit though and will…. Everything that I have done in my life runs its course, ,,I get sick, and dored, and feel guilty for what I am doing to my mind and body,.
    I thought I would never stop smoking glass,,,,,
    Havent done meth or glass for 9 years……
    I did do a weak hit of E last saturday,,,,,,,, i was surprized that it was real mdma,,,, not mpve,,,,
    Proper nutrition, and hydration are VERY IMPORTANT in recovery.
    Supplements and vitamins help.
    Speed walking, jogging, or any cardio really helps to get the endorphines flowing,,, do this my friends and you will feel soooo much better,,,
    Also talking and sharing experiences with each other helps to educate us in the does and donts in the world of research chemicals..
    They are not ALL bad,,,,,, but they are not all good either….
    Do your research,,,read all you can before you consume…
    If i only new benzo wd’s were so bad, ,,, way worse then opiate wd’s,,,
    I never would have started them,,,,, benzo wd’s can last for months,,,, and will,,,,,,
    Take care everyone,,, and thank you again for sharing,,,
    JUST THINK OF HOW MANY 1000’S OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WHO ARE GOING THROUGH SYTHETIC HELL????VERY!VERY! ALARMING?
    if the world would leagalize weed it would stop this epidemic,,,and start to repay the usa ‘s 16 trillion $$$ debt….
    Overgrow the world…. spread the seed!,,,
    Plant 1000’s of seeds,,,,,,, 🙂

  228. HELLO Everyone, and thank you for sharing your experiences w/ synthetics…..
    Ive been using spice since 2008….. I am in a safety sensitive job and take random drug test….. I found a way to beat the system,,,, like 1000’s of others like us who are paying the price for useing spice.
    AM 2201 pure powder tripped me out morethen anything I have ever done.
    I built up a massive tolerance….. I would smoke a gram of powder a week…..
    I at times didnt know if it was night or day,,,, if I had togo to work,,, or was it time for bed….. I at times didnt even know my name.
    My feet went completely numb once and I thought my brake pedal was missing….. Im 53 and should know better,,,,,, but I have always been thrill seeker, and have done from heroin, to acid, to, DMT,
    Shroom, x, meth, glass, etc.
    I am sick every morning, ,,,, know appitite,,,,, lost over 60 pounds the past year.
    Thought I might have cancer,,,,, 18,000 in medical bills,,,, cat scan, mri’s, tube shoved up my phallus, ouch,,,,, test after test.
    When I was the sickest,,,, last fall,,,, I switched to jwh 210,,,,,,,
    I wasokay until I switched to 210. Thats when I started vomiting ever morning,,,,weezing BAD!
    Had pnuemonia winter before last,,,, now I know it was from synthetics.
    The comment above about heavy metals being found in some synthetics is 100% true…..
    After 1000’s of dollars of testing,,,, I ask to be checked for heavy metal poisoining,,,,,, mercury, benzine, and lead were found in my blood.
    I quit all synthetis in December,,,,,, broke my arm, ,, had surgery,,, was on pain meds,,,, so I lost the desire,,,( for a month or so) to smoke synthetics.
    One day I found a bag of am 2201 powder I had stashed,,,,, smoked it when on oxy’s was so out of it,,,, I couldnt remember that 911 was the ER hotline…… it passed,,,, and Im still here.
    I am still smoking synthetics,,,, most addictive drug I have ever done.
    I was detoxed off of benzos twice,,,,, synthetic WD’s is like a cross between opiate WD’s and benzo WD’s
    I now use f 5 ur 144.
    Ive based,,,, jwh 018, 073, 250, 210, am 2201 am 694, ur 144, and now f5 ur144.
    I really need to stop….. I will…..but when?
    Its getting to the point where I am finally bored with the short lived high.
    Its like smoking crack or glass,,,, that is a fact.
    Now alot of the RC’s being used arent even cannabinoids……
    Tryptamines are being used,,,,
    Could be why you got a positive amphetamine drug test from spice.
    This is just the very beginning of the RC epidemic,,,,
    Thats what it has become…
    There are alot of deadly chems available,,,
    Google bromo dragonfly for some horror stories,,,
    People dieing and having to get body parts amputated.
    Its chemical warfare people…
    And I am going to stop using this once I ween myself off,,,,I have 3 grams of f5 ur 144,,,
    Once that is gone,,,,,im clean,,,,,
    I dont even have the desire to enjoy a beer,,,,,
    I am spinning every time i close my eyes,,,,,
    I know I know,,,52 and I sound like a teen ager…
    Pathetic,,,,,,, I know we will all kick the habbit…
    If my state paases med. mJ this year,,, I will run a grow op,,,and smoke mother nature only,,,,vaporize that,,,,my heart goes out to all that suffer.
    Please excuse typos, grammer, etc using my galaxy tablet with big fingers,,,,, and for the grammer,,,, synthetic cannabinoid sponge brain syndrom lol

  229. I know exactly what you guys mean about the panic attacks! I had a really scary incidence after smoking a blunt of spice and as hard as I try I will never be able to forget it. I felt as if I lost complete control of my body and then the devil started talking to me. I got so scared and paranoid that I literally physically couldn’t move! This is coming from someone who is 6’3 230 and plays football at Wisconsin! The scariest thing about spice is that you can go from relaxed to terrified in a matter of 1-2 hits! Hope everyone thinks twice before subjecting themselves to being our governments guinea pigs anymore,

    Peace and Love

  230. Thanks Enigma,

    Appreciate the post, I feel as if i am already past the worst part right now, and starting to get less cloudy and more back to reality. Drinking is not a bad substitute as long as your use it in moderation too!

  231. @ B or anyone whomever is interested….Calcium D-Glucarate is one of if not the best detoxifier of the liver. Once you do that, your body is then free to process the toxins within more efficiently. I sware by this stuff, it helped me so much. It also helps to take it if you have consumed a bit to much alcohol as it assists the liver in processing those toxins as well.
    Calcium D-Glucarate includes the patented compound glucarate which has been shown to enhance the major detoxification pathways in the body. Calcium D-glucarate, the calcium salt of D-glucaric acid, is found naturally in the human body and in a variety of fruits and vegetables. Animal studies have shown that high doses of calcium D-glucarate inhibit beta-glucuronidase, thereby enhancing the process of glucuronidation, in which foreign organic compounds, fat-soluble toxins and excess steroid hormones such as estrogen are detoxified and excreted from our bodies. The best & least expensive place to get it is Swanson’s Vitamins. It truly works wonders…remember to drink plenty of water with it. I hope this helps.

  232. @Oscar Hey there. I know what you’re going through I swear. Many of us have either gone through it or are going through it right now. I quit on March 4th, 2012. I had to quit cold-turkey or I would’ve gotten even worse brain damage, gone irreversibly insane or died. I did go insane. I smoked all day every day for 7 months almost. I had a mental breakdown. but even after going completely insane & never thinking I’d be right again, it got better! Slowly but surely. And it actually does go by faster than we think. After smoking for 7 months all day every day, it still only took me 2 months to get better. I’m guessing you smoked way less, hence it will take you way less to feel better. I swear you’ll be feeling good very soon. Watch good, funny things on the TV & the internet. Eat organic foods & fresh fruits & vegetables. Junk food weighs down your brain & body so it takes longer to get this poison out of your system. Also, Drink much water! This speeds it up as well. We love you, Oscar, and feel free to ask us any questions AT ALL. Nothing is embarrassing or shameful here, as long as it’ll help you, we’ll answer it. God Bless & like Lisa said, try to stay busy & rest if at all possible anytime anywhere. Sleep as much as possible, it’ll make time go by faster & you always need your rest. Stay positive & good, funny or happy TV & Internet helps SO MUCH with this! Watch Family Guy is you like it & it’ll make you laugh & help build up your endorphines & serotonin! Those are the “Happy chemicals” in your brain! If you build them up it’ll reward you with more happiness, better mood & better feeling physically & mentally. God Bless you & write back soon about your progress so we can help & be there for you, ok? Mu, Much, love, Oscar! 🙂 -Jessica

  233. @ Jaseeka1986

    The dream thing you are speaking of is something i noticed when i tried to quit a while back the first time. this is something that i am almost positive a lot of people go through. A majority of my friends smoked this stuff and upon quitting we all talked about how cool it was to have dreams again. I think it might have something to do with the receptors finally being a bit cleaned off and they can actually work now. but i am not an expert and this may have been just what we smoked but i can’t wait for my dreams again!

  234. @lisa I felt the exact same thing. It was non-stop for a month or two. Hell is what I called it. But it did get better, it honestly did! I’m now my normal self again. I didn’t think I’d ever be “right” again. Thanks for replying about the night jerking. I thought others may’ve felt this, too, but wasn’t sure. I was sure however that it was from this poison. If you’ve got and questions about how to handle the detox or build life & happiness again(It’s finding your “swing” again), I’ll help. God Bless & Everything’s going to be alright, It gets better, honestly. Much, much love, -Jessica
    @Oscar, I’m replying to you next, below so you’ll definitely see it. I replied on another forum similar to this, to you, too. Look below!

  235. hello again,

    Wanted to give you all an update on how its going. The good part is im still clean from this, but it was not an easy few first days.

    In the first few days I noticed a few changes. It was very hard to sleep sober (because i smoked every night to “help me” sleep, i went 2 days with about 4 hours of total sleep. Last night i got 7 hours in and it was amazing. I just recently started to get my appetite back (lost about 6 lbs, when i use to smoke all i did was eat constantly so this was actually needed, but it could have been done healthier). I have noticed that that constant bloated feeling is gone now too.

    My mind is more focused now, i am able to remember things that happened a couple hours ago, which is always nice. And i have also been having more meaningful conversations with people instead of the patented “let me use closed-ended questions and one word responses so i can hit this bowl “. It was probably the best when i talked with my family this week and just caught up, i haven’t done that in about 4 months. For those of you out there thinking about quitting do it for at least one week and talk to the people you care about and see how good it feels to listen and remember their voice it is a double sided sword because on one hand you relaize how much you missed that feeling of running your life, and the other side sucks because you let it get this way.

    Overall i have been doing well at quitting, being busy and being positive is the most important thing you can do. I have not gotten any headaches yet and i know lots of people usually complain about the headaches, does anyone know if there is a pattern to the detox or if you don’t have headaches when you quit then you wont get them when your back?

    Long story short, i am so glad i quit and am moving on with my life to things that actually matter instead of just getting numb for the day.

  236. Oscar44 im here with ya buddy i been thru all that the night anzity is awfull feels like ur heart is gonna explode or stop u can talk 2 me

  237. My prominent eye floaters just came on me; like a shower. My trip was not as bad as some peoples. More like a panic attack and when the high peaked I had a kind of an image in my mind of something like a complex structure being damaged or a link in this complex structure being damaged. People who have developed HPPD from smoking a lot of strong marijuana have felt a kind of twang in their mind; as if their brain was telling them that the receptors had too much. The following morning I had major hypochondria, especially concerning my vision. I was aware that it might cause short term vision problems previous to smoking the stuff. I read somewhere something about it causing vision problems on the internet. I was stupid to still try it, I know. So the vision thing was more than likely in my subconscious the following morning. All my energy was directed towards my vision. If I saw a dark spot on a wall for example my eye and psyche would gravitate towards the dark spot thinking that it was a defect in my vision. just totally a hypochondriac concerning my vision field. Underneath all this fear about my vision was horrible general anxiety about my health and a pounding heart. I was anticipating any kind of horrible side effect, i just could not help it. My anxiety has left and I don’t notice my heart anymore thank GOD. It took almost 2 years for the anxiety to leave me, and remember I only had few smokes. When you have a bad experience the human body goes into fight or flight mode and some people notice the floaters only then. A lot prayer works folks. Prayer works. Sometimes horrible things happen to people and it opens our eyes for the good.

  238. Hello all,

    This is my first time here and i am so glad I found this place because I need some help.

    I have been an on and off closet case smoker of K2 for 2 years now. I use to love it and only do it every once in a while but just like many on here as well i got sucked into it. Tolerance got higher, the amount of money i spent on it kept increasing too. For about 3 months i would always say “I’m done with this stuff” but i didn’t really have a support network.

    I smoked myself stupid everyday for the past month, I became the most important thing in my life. I could not stop, i would smoke before work, work my 8-5 and came back and blazed till i passed out on the couch. When the big ban happened it really pissed me off and I tried like hell to find more.

    I am only a couple days in and this shit sucks. I have a really hard time sleeping because i told myself i needed it to help me sleep. I am having trouble eating because i am not hungry, because i always blazed before meals. I am expecting a few more long nights of rolling in bed, but do the other symptoms kick in immediately, or is that what i have to look forward to?

    The hardest part about quitting for me is that i am a closet case smoker. The people i love and care about don’t know i smoke because i keep those things very apart, unfortunately that is also why i am having a hard time quitting because my support group is down to zero. My friends that don’t smoke would be angry if they heard i had been smoking and lying about it for 2 years. One the flip side i am slowly realizing my stoner buddies are not helpful to talk to or be around at all.

    I have heard success from many of you out there and i want it too, I am tired of feeling like i am handicapping all of my abilities, and i feel like a horrible person to my family and friends. I just want to be the me i was 2 years ago.

    I will come back here in a couple days to give you updates. I am quitting this time and i am doing it cold turkey!

  239. @Tom H. Hi, I’m glad to hear from you. I want to say that I can completely relate to you situation. To clarify, my incident where I last smoked was different than my other “bad” trips. This is why I stopped then but not the other times. This last time on March 4th, 2012 I’d been pushed to a mental breakdown & it was because this stuff had built up so much I guess, and that I’d had major stressers* in my life. I couldn’t handle any type of stress anymore because I couldn’t deal with it properly, and was just breaking down. I don’t want to scare you, though. So I did something terrible & completely out of character because I allowed a “friend” to put me in the worst situation possible. I couldn’t deal with what had happened so I smoked one last time, to feel “What normal was again”. I was on a permanent high from this stuff & just wanted to feel better again. So I smoked this last time & something unlike any other time happened. I wasn’t able to keep standing, felt & heard rushing water in my head, and my brain got very hot. This is the scariest part & what told me brain damage was taking place: I heard very loud crackling & thundering in my head. I even remember looking up into the sky to see what it was & it was a beautiful clear, blue sky & was very sunny. It hurt very badly, and I had to scream at my father to take me to the hospital. It was hard because he was high, too, and wasn’t “with it” & told me I was just freaking. Long story short he just didn’t want to get in trouble. Shame I could’ve & almost died because he was high & didn’t want to get in trouble. Hence why I yelled at him. I won’t get any more into it just needless to say a very unpleasant experience at the hospital where they treated me like I was crazy & a legal mental evaluation was completed in my hospital bed with a Charter Ridge worker. It was all extremely insulting since they knew what was going on & my father being fucking high & not acting as this was not normal behavior from me I’m sure made them wonder. So this is how I relate to your wondering of why you haven’t quit despite many scary incidents. I literally HAD to quit because my brain hurt so badly & if I did again I surely would’ve suffered even more painful experiences. There’s a difference with scary and painful. We can’t talk ourselves out of painful. It honestly did scare me & still does. I’ve been close to dying 3 times in my life & I’m only 25 yrs. old. The first time I was tripping on Coriciden Cough & Cold & it was a little scary(would’ve been more if I hadn’t been mostly out of it), and the second time I can’t remember but bits & pieces. but this last one I just told you about was terrifying to say the least, because I was completely aware of everything but out of control of things. I just wanted you to know so you’d know you’re not alone, I kept using until this happened, but at the same time I was so far gone I had no idea it was the incense doing it to me. You at least have a “leg up” while dealing with this because you’re now aware of what this stuff is doing. Do you feel like you’re dying a lot? Even when sober? Do you think of death constantly? What about fast heart-beats or chest pain, thinking negatively 24-7 & worthless? This poison is the culprit, so don’t think for one second this is your normal thinking pattern. I remember in a post saying “I used to be sunshine, now I’m cloudy.” There is so much hope, Tom. I think you should cut down little by little (and if you only smoke a couple of hits a day that should make a major difference). I usually don’t recommend this, I usually say to quit cold-turkey because the sooner the better & this stuff builds up in your system so it doesn’t really matter if you cut down, but this may be a little different because you’re not losing it even while sober, when it gets to that point you must stop immediately. I recommend getting some pot, honestly. If you’ve got pot you’ve got something healthy to replace this poison with. Marijuana won’t work as well at first because this stuff “super-glues” to your THC receptors & renders them not as viable as before, it’s like you’ve got to give them time to re-cooperate* or get this stuff out of your system more so they’ll work better. The pot will work for helping with the withdrawing massively. It’ll help physically with the eating, sleeping, pain and emotional detoxing off this stuff. It’ll help mentally with the emotions & the mental aspects of having something to use or do to replace the poison(that’s just what it is). If you’d like another scare-tactic that may help in quitting this stuff(lol, I know I’m full of them..)you should go to rc-supply.net & take a look at what they’re selling to make this stuff with. Then google the ingredients & you’ll be astounded. They’ve all got the skull & crossbones placard that represent them. But some good advice I can give you is to watch good, positive things on the internet & TV while detoxing. Stay busy if possible, rest as much as possible, take it easy & EAT HEALTHY – that is a big one, which is why I capitalize it. This stuff makes you not eat or hungry at all, so many of us lose inordinate amounts of weight. I got down to 98 lbs. & am now 116lbs.(just weighed myself at the office yesterday). I wasn’t eating anything! And had no idea I was missing meals or losing such weight. Eating was just cut out of my routine. That’s another reason why I think you’re doing well at this point, because you have seen these types of things, you know something’s wrong. I was so gone I was defending this stuff while it was killing me & driving me crazy. I honestly thank God everyday & every chance I get that I’m sane, now. Once you’ve felt insanity even while sober, that’s something you’ll never forget. It was like a bad dream, or like I was in the clouds or in a fog 24/7. I can’t explain it properly, but I don’t ever want to experience this again. You’re not at this point yet so you’ve got such a great chance. But anyway, eat healthily. Take this opportunity to become healthy, direct all your energy to doing this & only smoking pot if you have/want to get high. I believe there’s nothing wrong with getting high! Even after all I’ve been through I feel this way. If I’d stuck with pot I wouldn’t be in this position/have gone through this. Life can be hard & God gave us marijuana for a reason. Did you know that Hemp oil supposedly cures Cancer? There’s a documentary called “Run from the Cure” you should see. I’m planning to see it. I’ve seen videos giving advice from that documentary. Taking half a grain of rice amount orally, daily is supposed to help your Cancer immensely & any other ailments. THC slows cell development so this makes sense. While getting older many would find this helpful/applicable :). So don’t buy propaganda about pot being harmful or wrong. That’s people with monetary gains at stake or just people who are idiots who obviously have never tried this medicine before. As I said earlier, Marijuana is life in a bag & this stuff is the opposite. One last thing, the major reason besides obvious ones why you should start eating healthy is that it helps your brain while detoxing this junk, it helps you so much in so many ways. Makes you feel better everyday & helps battle anything in your body that shouldn’t be there. Also, unhealthy food weighs the brain & body down, making it harder or slower to detox. God Bless, Tom. I hope this info helps at all. Stay strong & you’ll do great getting through this chapter(more like a mini-chapter :)) Hope to hear from you soon concerning your progress or how you’re doing! God Bless,
    -Jessica

  240. Im 17 years old and ive been smoking herbal incense, for the past month as an alternative to marijuana, i realized theres legal alternatives that are not dangerous, mostly are pure herbs just like cannabis, for example leonuros leonetis ( probably not spelled right ), but the best alternative to cannabis is a plant called american waltheria, chemical free, it comes from nature so it probably doesnt have negative side effects, stoped synthetic weed when i started getting bad trips, my kidneys felt like they were gonna burst and my brain felt like it was getting cooked by electric shocks.
    i hope it helps 🙂 remember mother nature doesnt fool you

  241. Is anybody still on here that I can talk to I need help I’m 14 my names oscar I’m from northern California I smoked spice about a mont ago and it feels like I’m in a dream all the time with headaches and a little more ad vision. I will givi you details if someone replies just need help….. And also bad anxiety at night time. Any help Is highly apretiated and will help me so much I just need to talk to someone somebody that’s been through this stupid crap I don’t recommend doing this at all ever. Thank you. Oscar.

  242. Jessica, I’m glad I found this site through your suggestion, there are so many things that now come to mind, and I can’t believe I have not scared myself straight, there have been times when I’ve gone out to my porch late at night while everyone is asleep, and I’ve had maybe twice where my mind and body was taken over, now by what, I have no clue, but it seemed extremely paranormal, I literally was at this things mercy until it would subside, I said OMG this thing has crossed over to possession, I know this sounds absurd, but one time I felt the contents of my stomach literally churn on it’s own as if by command of this “thing”, usually I can control weird things, but I truly felt possessed a couple of times and it scared me like nothing else….I never knew myself to be any kind of daredevil, but why on earth have I not taken this serious enough to stop? I mean I know it’s bad for me, I know I could die and felt like I almost did, I’ve had chest pains that felt like I was having a heart attack, why do I continue my routine, being scared to death is not enough I guess, so I feel doomed and all alone, I really think I’m going to succomb to this crap and I wish I can be free from everything, I want to love life again, I know it’s out there (happiness) I just wish I didn’t have access to this!

  243. Im 25 done every drug out there- love getting messed up- stopped doing all drugs but marijuana two years ago because i found out i was gunna be a father- about a year ago i started spice so i could find a fancy job and it turns out everything people say is mostly true- this is by far the hardest drug i have ever had to quit – never had emotional or suicidal problems in my life i used to love life -got phyisical problems now feels like my throat is on fire- ive been off for a week now but thanks to this site and myself realizing how ive been i know this will be the last time i quit spice- DONT EVER SMOKE FAKE I PROMISE LONG TERM USE WILL RUIN UR LIFE MORE THAN SHOOTING HEROIN INTO YOUR VEINS!

  244. @Jaseeka1986, i totally know what u r talking about when u say u would jerk after u dose off 2 sleep cos i was doin that every night as well so u r not alone but my worst episode was the constant feeling of dieing my heart would sumtimes feel like it wasnt beating at all or my heart would race so till it would feel like my heart was going 2 explode in my chest i have been off the spice now for 1 week after smoking it 2 1/2 years i dont advise any1 2 smoke it everything that shines aint allways gold but it is hard 2 kick the habbit u just have 2 find sumthin 2 do i would also have the numbness and tingleing down my arms and pains n my head

  245. Me and my GF smoked spice for the first time when my buddy came back from the ARMY.

    NEVER AGAIN! It’s nothing like a weed high, I took one hit and knew it was fucked up. My GF had a total panic attack, I have no idea how my buddy smokes that.

    I’ve smoked some kind bud over the years but this high was fucked up. Id strongly advise against ever smoking it and I never will again. That’s an honest warning… YOU DONT WANT NONE OF THAT.

  246. @Garrett This is why I love this forum, people like you say things like that & make me realize new side effects I haven’t caught on to. When you talk about eye floaters, it just clicked that I’ve been having more than usual. I usually notice them like once or twice a year, but now I’ve noticed them like once a month or more! So you’re not alone with that, I’m sure many others will speak up if they’ve felt this, too. These are two other side effects that I’ve put together I’ve had, one from reading this forum & one from self experience: the first is violently shaking at night time, someone mentioned this about their husband & someone else chimed in, too. I’ve experienced this, usually right as I drift off to sleep I get a violent jerk ..along with a bright light I see at the moment of the “jerk”. This has happened less frequently but still happens fairly consistently! The next one is one that I’ve noticed & another girl on here said she felt it as well, I’ve been getting constant thoughts of old dreams. It’s so clear when I remember them it’s as if I’d woken up the next morning & gotten lucky to have remembered my dream from the night before, which rarely ever happened in the first place. But here recently after my near-death experience with this stuff – it wasn’t a “bad trip”, this was full fledged almost dying, my body was shutting down & I almost had a heart attack, followed by brain damage(classic brain damage markers) & insanity for 2 whole months – so anyway, right after quitting, having smoked all day every day for 6 1/2 months, I’ve been getting old dreams popping into my head, they’re so vivid & it happens almost constantly. So maybe you’ve experienced some of these. One more, my vision was messed up before but now it’s really bad. So bad I’ve got to get contacts before I even think about taking my driver’s license test, the driving one. I’ve heard many people say they’ve gotten way worse vision form this.
    God bless everyone!
    -Jessica

  247. well i have been reading all these posts about spice and i have had a bad experience as well im not blaming no1 cos i was the 1 buying it no1 was making me buy it but i have been smoking spice for 2 1/2 years now and over the last 5 or 6 months i have had sum bad episodes like i would smoke a blount and my heart would feel like it was tryin 2 stop beating and i would jump up and walk fast around the house 2 make it feel better or make that feeling go away it would last for about 45 seconds or so then i would smoke again like i said this was goin on for 5 or 6 months but i have noticed a change in my health like my lungs r allways conjested and i cough up grey lookin flem outta my lungs and a wheeze and last year i started having a stomach problem i dont know 4 sure if the spice was causing it or what but my stomach started burning real bad i couldnt hardly stand up let alone walk vomiting gagging much much pain n my stomachwent 2 the hospital several time and they couldnt find nothing wrong i wouldnt tell them i was smoking spice cos i was shamed 2 say so but then they admited me n the hospital and still said nothing was wrong but after months and months it stoped but sumtimes it flares up but like i said im not sure the spice is what caused it but i think sumtimes it was but i have had the sharp pains n my brain and the headachs but this leads me 2 my last episode i had on july 15, 2012 again like allways i smoked a blount and then the episodes started real bad this time like my heart was beating hard and really fast so fast that it felt like it was trying 2 explode angzity was bad i thought i was about 2 die all i kept tellin myself is i guess i fucked upim bout 2 loose my life i really thought it was over it lasted for about 45 min 2 an hour the longest 1 yet so i havnt smoked any since then i promised myself i would not but it it so hard cos its all i think about sumtimes i thing i smoked a little 2 much but im not 4 sure but i havnt smoked any since i am going through the depression, withdraws, angzity not wanting 2 eat im just goin throuh hell sum of the spice i was useing was, icky sticky, mallow, bird of paridise, wild sex, dank, mad hatter, kush, kushie kush, blossom, the list goes on and on i would love 2 talk 2 sum of u that has the same problems so please feel free 2 message me @ i would really like 2 chat with u all ill post again later

  248. All I can say is if you smoke spice, please stop. The effects become very very bad if you become an addict, and yes this is a very addictive drug. I’m 18 years old and already my body is showing me how much it hates me.

    My friends and I began smoking this stuff once it came out and at first I only smoked it when there wasn’t pot around and sometimes I even rejected it. I thought I had control at first but I soon found myself selling things to buy this stupid drug. We would smoke it and I would feel like I couldn’t breath and as soon as I felt my heart racing I would go into panic mode but I knew in my head that everything was going to be alright. Every day after school we would load up in our friends truck and get as high as we possibly could. After awhile I got used to my heart beating so fast and I just didn’t care anymore but then weird things starting happening during my trips, it felt almost like I was on speed or cocaine(I’ve never done these I just know they make your pupils big and you are wired).

    One of the worst trips was when I smoked alot with one of my friends and we were sitting up in his bed. We talked and bullshitted and then I went to my house and slept, woke up, went throughout my day, slept again and then went throughout the next day, then my friend and I went to a friends house pretty close to mine. We were smoking in his garage and talking then all of the sudden my vision starts flashing and I’m not sure whats going on. As it flashes it starts forming into another picture, I start going back to sitting up in my friends bed where we were smoking and I look at my hands then look at him. I tell him not to freak out because at this point I was scared out of my mind, and I ask him what the date is. He tells me and I realize that all of these events that occurred over 3 days never happened and it was all in my head. He then told me that my eyes were only closed for 20 seconds. After I got done freaking out we smoked another bowl and passed out. This happened multiple times and I got used to it just like the heartbeat.

    Pretty soon my friend who was addicted was telling me that I needed to slow down because everytime I would smoke, my pupils would(this is literal) get so big that you couldn’t see any color and I would be screaming when it sounded to me like I was whispering. I felt like a meth addict or something.

    So far I am 3 months clean of everything right now and feeling great for the most part. I am still addicted because the second I saw an empty bag the first thing that came to my mind was I wonder if there’s anything in there. I won’t smoke it again though. My major side effects are scary though. My heartbeat is ultra irregular and all of the time I fear having a heart attack. When I am sitting down it runs about 130 bpm and when I run about 160-180. I can tell that it was frying the left side of my brain because my right eye is more closed than the left one and when I smile the left side is regular when the right side is kind of droopy. Also the right side of my face looks swollen a little bit.

    Everytime I look in the mirror I am so ashamed because I can see the damage synthetic marijuana has done to me and I can feel it at night when I try to sleep but I cant because my heartbeat is keeping me up. Please do not do synthetics, they will hurt you in the long run and completely destroy your brain.

  249. Last night i smoke this stuff from a blunt and i had the worst trip in my life . Blurred vision and i was psychotic which made me wanna kill myself. I realized how addictied i really am . I just go out a rehab for this stuff and now im still spending most my money on it .. This stuff is so evil and yet im still smoking it .

  250. Christopher that was almost the same experience I had my whole life was like in a rollercoaster before my eyes in pure darkness I thought I was in hell but didnt see fire or demons justdarkness and all I could say was please God dont let me die

  251. Hi
    I didn’t smoke much of the stuff; several hits from various blends. Anxiety for about a year and prominent eye floaters. Still have eye floaters all over the place. Anxiety has almost left. Having eye floaters don’t help with the small amount of anxiety. Will I get better?
    Has anyone fully recovered? The side effects and the worry about long term problems depresses me. Please help, I need some advice. Would you reckon the the floaters were caused by the anxiety and the hypochondria concerning my vision.

  252. I had the worst experience yesterday evening after I took a singal Bong hit of ” Mr. Nice Guy relaxinol “. After I blew the smoke out and locked my shed I began to feel the effects as if I smoked a couple bowls of some danky dank. As I entered my home behind my friend the only thing I could do was plop down on the couch. After laying there in an akward position the whole room began to violently shake. The next thing I know ( all jokes aside ) from the minute I was born up to the point when I followed my friend in my home flashed before my eyes. Everything went dark, darker then anything I’ve ever seen something so strong it felt like it was taking me. I spoke and heard it as (Slowmotion Deep Speech)
    I MESSED UP MY LIFE….pause
    I MESSED UP BARBARA….pause
    I’M SORRY BARBARA…..pause
    PLEASE FORGIVE ME…..pause
    I’M FIGHTING, I’M TRYING TO COME BACK….pause
    I’M FIGHTING BARBARA….pause
    I CAN’T COME BACK……pause
    …..I’M DOOOOOONNNNE……………..
    I felt nothing but scared and lonely. I think I was between life and death. I began to hear my wifes voice in the far distance but she was right next to me. I was coming back slowly, I was still fighting after I thought I gave up. I truely felt there was no more Christopher C________ and I had fought to the bitter end.
    I finally was back in my living room on my couch in a puddle of sweat from head to toe and as pale as a corpse. My wife and my friend put me in a bath of cold water as I was curled up in a ball. Slowly but surely I was me again but I wasn’t me. I have a new found appreciation for my life. I didnt see god or jesus or light just bitter over whelming darkness that felt as if it had a hold of me sooo tight I couldnt escape. I didnt feel hot or see demons or fire, just darkness. Life doesnt exist after death, theres nothing. we are in heaven everyday we wake up and take another breath. This experience hasn’t made me religous or find god. It’s just made me realize whats real and important. I will never try something thinking its safe just because its legal and you get a reciept for it. I’m out!!! Thanks for letting me share.

  253. @ Devastated- My husband has been smoking this fake stuff for over a year and a half now. It is ruining our marriage. He will stop smoking it for a few days, then begins hiding it behind my back. My life has been surrounded by addicts of all sorts, so it is hard for me to wrap my head around this new type of addiction. It really is like a heroin-type addiction. He smokes up to three of those bags a day. He smokes it worse than cigarettes (which I can compare, because I am a cigarette smoker). He says he will quit, but then just finds excuses to leave the house for a few hours and comes back high and with a bad attitude after it wears off. I feel like he makes me feel like its me that is the cause of our marriage problems, but I am starting to figure out- its this addiction that is sending us down the divorce-road
    🙁

  254. Hi
    I smoked this crap and had a negative experience. I only took a few hits of the stuff several times. The last time was horrible. I awoke the following day suffering from anxiety and hypochondria. For some strange reason I taught I had damaged my vision, because it seemed blurred, that morning. I had tons of anxiety/hypochondria. Three months after the experience I developed prominent eye floaters. Do you know anyone who has recovered from this stuff? My trip was not as bad as some peoples described above. Are the eye floaters caused from anxiety and hypochondria.

  255. Okay so its been about 4 months after that ithink im dying trip and im experiencing some side effects still to this day. Im depressed all the time, lack of focus,a little memory loss, and think ive grown dumb because i barely got out of school in may and i couldnt remember how to run a macro on excel which i did plenty of times last semester…. if anyone have or has had these effects how long did they last and if u still do feel these effects how long have u had them. .i enter back to school in august so im praying that i get my head together by than or else im most likely going to fail next semester. Or worse the rest of my collegiac life….help

  256. i have been n everyday user of the pure evil (spice) since the first batch of k2 was released in my state back in 2008. Since then i have smoked about 3 grams a day and have been to the hospital 5 times just because of it. Its mainly from vomitin spells one of which lasted for 6 hours straight just recently and now im on some kind of medications for many things includin tremors, twitchin ,high blood pressure, and nausea. Its gettin pretty bad im a really fit lookin kid but cant yell or even walk outside without breakin a sweat and i used to wake up and vommit every night this literally eats the lining of your heart and stomach and causes a lot of problems in the long run im having all these problems with it and i just turned 18. If ur not a constant user of the stuff some people go into a short bad trip but its a really bad trip which still randomly happens with long term use just randomly cuz of how used to the drug your body is there are reports of people diein almost instantly on a bad trip one of which was my best friends found on the sidewalk where im from just a few weeks ago from smokin a bad batch of synthetics. it seems hard to believe after all the problems ive had with it that i still smoke it and am still having problems. If u know people strugglin with this stuff try to help they are startin to compare it to heroin in terms of addiction cuz of how hard it is to kick and how bad peoples withdrawal symptoms are.I used to smoke real budd but then found this stuff and the high was way more intense and its cheaper then real weed is here so i kept smokin it ive been incarcerated in youth prisons for charges related to the drug and also many treatment programs for c.d. issues with this and many other things. If u havent smoked it already i wouldnt even think about smokin it you might think im jokin about it all but after even 6 months of use youll start to notice things changin with your body i hope noone wants to be a lab rat and try it out cuz it will make your life miserable. If u dont die sometimes youll get sick to the point that u wish you do. None of this is stupid text book the things there sayin about it online and on tv are true it is really bad for you and does have a potential of killin you even from takin one hit all it takes is an increased heart rate to take someones life and when people start havin panic attacks or hallucinations your heart rates through the roof ne1 whos had a bad trip will tell u that. All you have to do is take a hit feel your heart and think to yourself maybe this is not good for u and just you thinkin that could throw you into a psychosis and youll get your own heart rate goin juss by thinkin bout that some ppl get really lucky get scared and think there diein and some people dont get lucky and do die. All it takes is one hit and theres no turnin back its all absorbed so quickly . That one hit has the potential to take your life it juss depends on how your body takes it that time im to the point where i feel normal when i smoke and im sick shakin sweatin and throwin up if i dont get at least a bat in the mornin. They see me at the store everyday buyin it cuz its legal and dont think bout wut it does to the people they sell it to . Just think our governments what started all of this had they made real harmless marijuana legal years ago noone would be in this mess. If u think about it all the legal mj is mor harmfull to your body. I mean look at all the drunk drivers killin or severly injurin someone or destroyin there liver then think about how many people you know that smoked a joint and ran over someones family or gave someone a heart attack or anything like that cuz i cant find anything in recorded history about anyone diein from smokin real weed. its actually proven to help many people why do u think they medicate some people with it. The fedz need to figure there stuff out b4 more ppl die and hurry up and throw some real weed on the market like they shoulda done b4 the synthetic drug outbreak across the U.S

  257. I’m 41 years old and have been using variety of different brands daily for 2 years. I’ve smoked pot for years and it is the ease of access to spice that got me hooked. Even though it’s illegal here it’s still not hard to get. I thought I was being careful taking one hitters and not a whole bunch at one time. Turns out I just ended up taking more and more little ones without realizing impact of the poison. I never had problems controlling pot use and this is clearly not in the same league. It’s addictive.

    First sign it is poison was my urine was cloudy from my body doing it’s job of flushing out the toxins. Justified continue to smoke that my body was cleansing and didn’t see the harmful effects.

    I went to the doctor Friday with migraines, chills/sweats, and overall body aches. Took some X-Rays of my chest and Dr diagnosed Bronchitis. I found an older post where Dr diagnosed the same thing to someone. I didn’t mention Spice to Dr because didn’t want to get documented as a drug user on my record, even though the whole time I kept mentally linking all my issues to it.

    I’ve had migraines in the past but could tell these were different. It knocked me out for a good 3 days. Worst part was my body unable to control it’s temperature. First day headaches were so bad I went back to the poison to see if it could help me get thru the night but it didn’t help.

    Short term effects of increased heart rate and memory loss didn’t matter to me because of the awesome high I was getting and didn’t worry about it until I started feeling these long term effects. Going to be a struggle but it’s clear it’s an addictive poison.

  258. I had the same kind of experience happen to me. i had been staying in the hospital with my little niece after she was in a bad go-kart accident and took one hit then went into the bathroom. next thing i know it was like I was on a rollercoaster floating all through my life I remember hearing a crash which was my head hitting the wall and next thing I know I felt like I was my little cousin screaming for water my lips felt swollen like hers and I was in so much pain I thought for sure I was dieing I had no clue who I was or what my life was. These voices slowly started coming to me and when I opened my eyes my sister was holding me and there were 10 nurses standing above me. My sister didnt know I was in there at first she thought some woman had lost her child and was mourning and she said I was begging God not to let me die screaming in a different voice that didnt even sound like me. I have never gone through anything so terrifying and still have nightmares from it. Its such a shame that real weed which has never impaired anyone or caused anyone to hallucinate or have psychotic states is illegal and they are so determined to give you a ticket or put you in jail for having some but they are handing this stuff out and now people are eating other people and dogs from it? Our nation needs a reality check thats for sure!

  259. Well, I’ve read alot of the comments here and felt I needed to add mine to the mix.

    I’m fifty, a very light “real thing” user, but don’t know anyone to get it from, so usually do without. My cousin gave me some of the synthetic stuff a few times, and it was OK, but no big deal.

    Yesterday, he comes over and I smoke one toke off of what I think he said was spice… it was red. Well, I quickly developed a serious pychosis. I was so high I became scared… I thought to myself that this drug was so powerful, it was created by aliens to take over the world, and my cousin was an agent, along with his girlfriend. I tried to act non-chalant about it, pretending to listen to the conversation, and perhaps ease out quietly before they figured out I was on to them. Well, they quickly saw I was in trouble, and being the gentle and kind people they are, quickly came to me and held me. They didn’t know I was in a delusional state. I decided to confront them as aliens and scare them off from what I thought as a takeover, since their cover was blown. I had no clue who they were. So, I did the gorilla thing and tore off a branch, and threatened them with it. I clearly thought out a pattern of attack on them. My cousin is an incredibly smart guy, and was able to defuse this whole episode. I hate to admit it, but I might have turned violent on them. I was scared to death, and my life was at stake; thats how delusional I was at the time. I have no idea what I said to him, but eventually they left (though they kept and eye on me ) and I came down. It felt like it lasted for hours, but it was only about 20 minutes.

    I thought I had just got out of bed, and had dreamed all of this, until I saw the torn branch. Alot of it came back to me then. I had been reading a science fiction book about an alien conspiracy, and I somehow became emeshed in the story line.

    I was fortunate I was with someone who was looking out for me, and was willing to talk me down.

    Folks, stick with the real thing. We don’t know what’s going in that stuff, but we can be sure that the people who are making it are not our friends; they just want to make money on our desire to step out of reality from time to time. From what I can tell on this forum, it can happen out of the blue, and you can hurt yourself or others. It’s just not worth it.

  260. @Expert Needed Which state are you located? I’m in Kentucky but would be willing to testify in a surrounding state. In my experience I smoked daily, heavily for 6 to 7 months. I went completely insane by the 6th month, had a terrible sexual experience as a results of the complete insanity. I almost died from the incense 2 days following the incident. I smoked to try and “feel normal” again.. It didn’t work but I felt extreme & horrifying pain along with “rushing water” sounds in my head/brain. It felt as if my brain was being over-heated & I couldn’t walk but barely. I stumbled into the car & had to scream at my father , after falling into his arms saying “I don’t want to die, dad.” Chilling is the word. My heart was irregular & beating to speedily I thought it would genuinely rupture or give out, whichever cam first. I got to the E.R. & they laughed at me. Then yelled at me to sit down. They gave me an ECG 30 whole minutes after the initial ordeal, so of course it came back “normal”, but who knows they could’ve been lying to calm me down or shut me up, or both. They then contacted a representative from The Ridge(Formerly known as “Charter Ridge”) to give me a legally required Mental Assessment. I passed, only because I’d calmed down somewhat & had been through Ridge as a teen(parents being both abusive & not wanting to be parents), so I knew the “correct” answers. Being “locked up” in a facility such as that drives any sane person insane IMO. It nearly did when I was younger. So I suffered from terrible migraine headaches for at least 2 weeks afterwards. Could retain NO information which was critical to functioning at my job. Have no idea how I still retained my job after being clearly insane. I guess they hoped it would pass, which thank God it actually did. I never thought I’d be right again. Ever. I still have some Neuro & other problems after having quit that very day of almost dying from it on March 4th, 2012. I am more than willing to be an “expert” witness. While going through this ordeal I’ve tried to help many people who’ve suffered from this poison. Let them know my ordeal & how different things helped while recovering & how to deal with the withdrawing & mental psychosis from detoxing or continued use. i think I’d be good for the part since I can now think rationally, and can function again. So I’ve got background & plenty of memories/experience to compare it to reality with. It was like I was in a terrible nightmare. I told my father the only word I could use to describe how I feel now compared to then was now I’m in “attendance”. Before I was not. God Bless & I seriously hope I can help. I hate being a warning story but if it’ll help anyone else form going through this tragedy again, or bring awareness to another’s story, therefor bringing insight, more purpose or forewarn others, it’ll be such a worthy cause. Thank you.

    @Daniel Mccoy I grew up with a best friend with the female version of your name, so your post particularly stuck out to me. You mentioned not having or wishing to do Heroin since this was a bitch to withdraw from. I can tell you hands down, that this is hands down the CLOSEST thing I’ve ever withdrawn from that compares to Heroin/Methadone. I’ve been taking Methadone for 5 years & I could’ve thrown it out the window. I could’ve quit smoking cigarettes, too! It was insane. My body was completely out of whack, but I was searching for any normalcy to cling to, so I persisted, plus i didn’t want the withdraws to become even worse than they already were! But anyway, I withdrew from this incense JUST LIKE HEROIN & pain pills! I had the cold & hot sweats, the agitation from Hell, the general psychosis(You’re emotions are all out of whack coming off of opiates) which led to thoughts of suicide if just to make the insane feelings physically & mentally, stop. I was in complete & utter pain from head to toe, got nauseous, completely and had terrible digestive troubles! All of this at the same time for almost a month. Anyone who’s gone through it will tell you that’s the exact same symptoms people go through while detoxing from heroin & other opiates. So what you went through(which I read your whole post, classic withdraws & hard time from quitting these poisons!) was exactly comparable to opiate withdraw. I just thought someone should tell you that you went through one of the roughest things you’ll probably ever go through. So God Bless & I hope you feel better, everyday will be better & better. Read my other posts on this forum & the other incense related ones on this website, there are many recent ones where I listed good advice that helped or would’ve helped me while going through this. Much love & if you’ve got any questions, I’m here, I hope you feel better & this is all just a memory, soon.

    @elizabeth edwarrds Klonopin or the generic, Clonazepam, helped me tremendously. It helped me “snap back into reality” after the first month of being sober 7 going through Hell. I smoked everyday for 6-7 months. Daily. And it’s taken me 3 months in total to feel anything liek what I used to before this poison. You only took one toke, so it should be a bit faster for you. Just be sure to stay hydrated, take your Klonopin(Clonazepam), eat healthy – I suggest eat Vegan or vegetarian at the least, there’s completely too many additives in your food, but you say you’re a hypochondriac so I woun’t get into all that 🙂 – I was the SAME way before & after this experience. I thought I had everything wrong with me, which I did have some serious problems afterwards, but I smoked all day everyday for 6 months straight! Can you imagine that? I never thought I’d be right again. If you’ve got any questions feel free & comfortable to ask & I’ll try to answer as quickly & to the absolute BEST of my ability. Having the anti-anxiety meds I think puts you at an advantage as far as having something to reach for when you need it if it gets too bad, at least then you can sleep. It also gives me an appetite, does it do that to you? God Bless & I hope by now(I think it’s been about a month since your original post) you’ve gotten some relief. I seriously hope so, I don’t underestimate just one toke of this poison. We’re all here for you & hope you feel at 100% asap! 🙂 God Bless everyone! Much, much love to you all & your recoveries! -Jessica

  261. I had two to four seizures on some pure evil as well as vomiting and hallucinations. Also had short term memory loss and yea no beuno. never again will i smoke this again.

  262. well i read this whole thing and my husband smokes and acts like yall are all lying cause he is really addicted and smokes 10 grams a day.

  263. hey i just wanted to ask since you ppl now more and better about this synthetic weed. well 1st of all the 1st time i smoked it was 2 days ago and i have been smoking it for 2 days now since i havent been smoking this synth. weed what happend was skin peeling i was wondering if anyone else here has experienced the same as me and if they know when it will go just i need to be brightened up about this. ty.

  264. Once again, I can only advise you to stop smoking it while you still can. More deaths and viscious attacks in Georgia from people smoking it. I have posted before that my 27 year old grandson had a complete psychotic break, was in a mental hospital for nearly two months. Has been living with his mother since he got out seven months ago. His brain has been damaged, most likely permanently. He now has many issues and also has the mind of a child. He can no longer work or go to school. His life is ruined as well as his family. Please, it can’t be worth it to risk it all!

  265. People are dying from this stuff. I’m working on a case right now related to a death which resulted from Spice use and a episode of psychosis.

    Just reading some of these testimonies is truly chilling. This stuff needs to be taken off the shelves. This is not the way to legalize a drug.

    Without going into details, we are looking for an expert “spice user” who might be willing to testify and explain to a jury exactly how real and harmful the psychosis effects of this substance can be. Prolonged experience with the drug will would be needed.

  266. @Josie, it’s not good if his health is getting worse, I’ve been off now for a month and the effects are long lasting. As of recently, I now have High Blood Pressure and my blood suger is off the charts. I’m not saying that this stuff had to do with any of what I have now, but I was a very healthy person before i started smoking this stuff, and now I’m really fucked up.

    Please tell ur husband to quite soon, or he will die eventually. Good luck.

  267. @Terry Thanks for replying so well to the fresssh person. you said it for me so I didn’t have to. “Dead people don’t make blog posts” and subsequent statements were just Perfect. Thank you. 🙂
    To everyone, Stop this while you’re ahead & haven’t done something that ruins your life. It happened to me & is so bad I can’t post it.. at least under this name.
    1. Continued use drives you insane.
    2. While insane you will ruin your life & others aorund you, mainly those you love most.
    3. It takes your spiritual side & love for anything/anyone away.
    4. The health problems or resulting death are not worth getting a buzz. Find another way if you must get high.

  268. Can SOMEONE who has smoked this stuff for 4 months or more (preferrably closer to 4 months) tell me what the first three or four days sober were like and what will help alleviate some of the withdrawal symptoms. I am addicted to Brainfreeze and want to quit. Today is day #1. After reading people’s blogs, I realized I have a long road ahead of me. On the drug, I am experiencing dizzyness, increased urination, ringing in my ears, joint pain in both knees that started just in the last few days, irritability, and a serious lack of motivation. ANY advice will help. Thank you.

  269. Ive been off incense for about 6 months and let me tell you. This has some LASTING effects. Every once and awhile I’ll have these moments where my brain just stops working for few seconds. There is no way to describe the absolute horror you feel. It’s the same as the extreme paranoia you feel from a bad trip off of this. Also sometimes Ill have a thought in my head and ill be unable to vocalize what I am thinking. The thought is there but I just can’t get it out. Incense made me go absolutely crazy. I was sad and angry and o found myself crying almost every night for no reason. It really fucked with my emotions. My girlfriend broke up with me, I lost a lot of good friends and I had no money. It ruined My life. But trust me when I say this, if you stop now….IT WILL GET BETTER!! The symptoms will stop or become less frequent. You will get your life back Together. BECOME RELIGIOUS!! It will help you get over this Soooo much. Hope I helped.

  270. I have a question. My husband has been smoking this stuff for some time and i am very worried that he is dying. He has all the symptoms everyone has talked about but there is one more that is driving me crazy. When he sleeps his legs and arms jerk like crazy. I cant tell you how many times i have been woken up to being hit in the face or kicked really hard. He never remembers doing it at all. He always promises he will quit but he never does. Does this happen to anyone else?

  271. *can’t

    I really hope people stop smoking this stuff, coughing isn’t anything compared to my lose in the message I wrote above.

  272. I started smoking this synthetic pot about two years ago (I live in Missouri). I never noticed problems with it besides the typical cough, headache and cravings for more. But now, I wish I never did it. I can’t blame the pot yet cause there’s no evidence, I can ejaculated like I use to. And if I do, I’m wore out. I can’t keep it hard always now either. Mind you I’m 23 years old, male, and have ALWAYS BEEN FREAKING AMAZING DOWN THERE. But now, I hate myself.

  273. Okay I was recently introduced to this stuff I am 28 years old and tried real marjuana at 14. I didnt ever actually get high from this stuff but felt weird. Point being, the guy i am datin is 34 sometimes he has a problem keeping or getting it up. lol But he smokes spice like its going out if style….. I think this has something to do with it? I am attractive and this relationship is fairly new so I know its not me but could it be the spiced he smokes all time. He has smoke it for about 3 years as well. It has kind of put a damper on our situation. I dont care if he wants to smoke it but I can’t marry that. Impotent at 34???

  274. I use to smoke spice everyday I was addicted I could not stop. Even the pain in chest, cough that would not go away, nausea , vomiting could not make me stop. After many times of trying to quit I finally realized that I had to stop because I started having horrible thought of hurting others and hallucinations on occasion scared me. I did not even realized some of the things I was doing or saying. I would forget things in general. If you are smoking spice or know anyone that is you should stop. Being high is not worth going crazy,losing your life or hurting others. I still struggle with this addiction , I feel like smoking now but I know that its not worth it. I think should be banned because so many people are getting sick.

  275. Let me attempt to describe the effect the drug had on me. It was my first experience, and evidently, I got a pretty huge hit. As far as I can piece together, the effects went as follows. First, I noticed a very strange and regular wavy sensation and intense heat in my muscles and skin. This grew and began to affect not only my vision, but also my spacial awareness. My body felt like it was rippling with everything else. All the while, at this point, my conscious thought was not affected. After a few minutes, my balance was apparently impaired, and I began to fall forward. This is where it got really screwed up.. I transitioned into a sort of mental state where I only knew one thing: and that was that I existed, and I was moving through time. As far as I can gather, my perception of events following were scrunched into incredibly small, self similar iterations. At its worst, I remember being only a consciousness; locked in a rapidly shifting, fractal based spiral. It seemed to repeat for ages. I remember mentally coping with my new fate. I didn’t have any memory at that point. I thought in an abstract way that I must be some manifestation of thought existing in an eternal loop of endless self similar iterations. Long story short, the rest of the trip consisted of the iterations gradually (perhaps parabolically) increasing in length (or decreasing in speed). I literally had to relearn who my friends were in those moments. I had to gradually piece together the events. I WOULD STRONGLY DISCOURAGE ITS USE. The only possibly beneficial things that came from this were, 1) that I now have the most intimate knowledge of what it might be like to live inside of the Mandelbrot set, and 2) what it means to be utterly and completely hopelessly lost in fractal iterations of reality. AGAIN, I WOULD STRONGLY DISCOURAGE ITS USE.

  276. i have never had a bad trip on spice, but have heard so much bad stuff bout it i am preparing to quit by taking a vacation to Georgia with my sister. i am only fifteen, and i started using this just because i found some of my sisters and got hooked on it. im a little smarter than the average guy, and i know something up when the only sotre miles around that sells spice is run by two indian men who try to sell me tobaco when i look well under age. i have had some pretty harsh trips, but ive never lost it, but when i smoek alot i seem to hear something talking or weird screaming noises, and have the visions of completely random stuff that will pop into my vision of real life, and i will see it IN FRONT of whatever i am looking at, so its not just me thinking it in my head. its not even stuff i voluntarily think of, it just shoots right into my head. theres something darker than to what meets the eye behind this drug, and im nt sure i really want to find out what it is

  277. im an addict,currently clean from everything,i know for a fact,this is highly addictive,i smoked it for 3 days,and now ive been clean from it for 3 days,its still on my mind,i got 1 more thing to say,if u are a pot head,like myself,u will fall in love with this,dont do it, but if u choose to. do urself a favor,right ur WILL out,and give ur family a kiss good bye,u will die,maybe not today,but soon enough.these new chemicals are bieng traced back to osama bin ladins ppl,what does that tell u,in my opinion is no worst then anthrax,just kills u slower,and gets all ur money before u die.think about it who the hell sells this crap,i know in philadelphia and surrounding areas,its all arabs that sell it,u mise well just go under ur sink,grab the bottle of drano,and guzzle it,atleast u wont spend all ur money. U WONT EVER HEAR FROM ME AGAIN,I LOVE MY LIFE AND A QUICK HIGH ANINT WORTH LOOSING LIFE AS U KNOW IT.

  278. So let me start off by saying this stuff is BAD!!! And i agree with everyone else in this blog who said so. My roommate sold the stuff for about a year and we were putting the chems on ourselves. You never know with “store bought” though Mr. nice guy has been confirmed to have METHAMPHETAMINES in it so god only knows. Thats another thing, you never what your smoking. Not just chemical wise but the material they spray it on, it could be leaves, cabbage, flowers NO ONE KNOWS and no one knows what the effects of those are on your lungs long term. I’m not 100% sure but im pretty sure if you were to go outside and smoke leaves everyday you might have some health problems. I have had to this date 4 of my friends almost die on me. Its not worth your life or the people around you. Because this stuff changes you. I NEVER used to be paranoid if anything i had no fear and now i cant even be alone because im afraid i might have a panic attack. It was REALLY tough to break the addiction because it matches many of heroines withdrawl effects. No sleep, vomiting, not being able to sleep or eat,etc,etc. But you can and must do it for yourself and the people around you.

  279. i agree with you yo. My bf smokes this stuff all the time. He looses his temper all the time. worse now then in the past few months. Its really starting to get outta hand.

  280. wow.i started smoking this stuff 3 days ago,and i already feel addicted,im fortunate to find this site. at first i thought finaly something legal to get high on,im glad i know the truth now,i think about fake weed
    constantly, ive been addicted to herion,and its no different,its actulaly worse,cuz its easier to access.i cant beleave that this is legal to sell. i now think its a dirty arab drug,thats gonna ruin are youth,it is a new epedemic,and if its not nipped in the butt soon,it will become worst then crack,because most of the ppl doing it are good citizens,that are bieng tricked into thinking,thats its ok to do.

  281. I need help pleaseeeee!! My 18 year old is addicted has probably most all these symptoms that everyone has listed. I am watching my baby die right before my eyes. She loves it, says she can’t get high off the real stuff. What are ways I can help her? They say you can’t help anyone who doesn’t want to be helped. I feel so helpless sitting back and not doing anything. I have talked to sherriffs, councilmans, you name it, trying to get it off shelfs. She lost her job, her apartment, has nothing to do with her family and is basically homeless. And a boyfriend who is supplying and hooked too!!! So please tell me what can I do????

  282. Ive just been forced to quit.
    Apparently I’m mean or agitated easily without it.
    But it is a drug. I can say for 4 years I have been smoking this synthetic weed and I’m a lucky one that hasn’t had side effects.
    I have vomited from bad batches but at the same extent I haven’t hallucinated, blacked out, I still have a 3.5gpa in college and I’m 20.
    So I guess it’s pick n choose Ur poison.

  283. fresssh… regarding your comment, “Ever notice how everyone THINKS they’re going to die, but yet, they are obviously still alive…”, you are missing something obvious.

    DEAD PEOPLE DON’T MAKE BLOG POSTS!

    We have no idea how many people are dying because of Spice because the stuff is not detectable the way marijuana or alcohol is, so when the cops come across a corpse, they and the medical types attribute the death to other things — a weak heart, brain stroke, etc.

    Since the stuff is legal, sold everywhere, and people die every day, there is no telling how many people had the same sensations so many of us reported — and actually did meet THE MAN.

  284. today i looked at my calender. i have been sober from everything for nine months:) i had an expirence today. i got really hot and it felt like i was falling into one of my trips. only this one was way worse. but im so glad that i quit. i would probably be in lockup or dead if i wouldnt have. and my baby wouldnt be heathy like he is now.

  285. i was never really much of a marijuana smoker. it was fun, but i was always so busy and it made me so lazy. few years ago is when i was introduced to spice. worse experience ever. idk if i just have a weak tolerance or what, but EVERY time i smoked my world got soooo effed up. I know it’s going to be hard to follow, but just try and hang on.
    My first weirdness was a major hallucination. to me it looked like my life, the real world, was a cartoon. like clay cartoons ya know? i had to keep telling myself its ok its ok, youre gonna come down.
    The second one was i literally felt like i wasnt breathing. i know that sounds weird, but i couldnt even feel myself breathing. then i tried to reason with myself saying if you werent breathing youd pass out. so i eventually calmed myself down.
    Then I had the second worst one. I felt like i was watching everything. like an out of body experience. some people think it’s cool, but everything felt fake. kinda like the Matrix. like we were pods, dreaming about everything going on ya know?
    And the ABSOLUTE worst…i though i had gone crazy. idk if i had for a short period of time or was just extremely paranoid. me my boyfriend and his friend were all smoking on my balcony, his friend started playin a song and the beat of it like filled my world, thats ALL i heard and it seemed to me like everything was going in slow motion to the beat. i know its weird. and then i felt REALLY REALLY high up. i had a table out there and when i looked at it i felt like i was looking at it from MILES away. thats when the panic set it. everything moving slow motion and idk….i flipped. i stood up so fast and grabbed onto my boyfriend and kept saying tell me im alright tell me im alright. wtf is going on, holy shit. i think ive lost my mind. and once that thought got into my head its like i couldnt shake it. i felt like i went insane. it was horrible.
    after that i quit. call me a chicken, idc, it scared me. i am now scared of the stuff. i got in so many arguements with my bf cuz he kept smoking. then it happened to him. we have both stopped. thank god. unfortunately, sometimes i remember it, and my heart starts beating faster and then i remember that last night and its almost lke i get a TINY little high and i can feel what it felt like again. idk, ive messed up beforein my life, but never this bad. please trust me, anyone who smokes this stuff, you need to quit.

    **Rumor has it the originaly creator is in a forever high. It constantly seems like he’s walking on top of water. Everything ripples when he takes a step**
    **FACT: A college student tried spice ONCE. His friends found him hours later huddled in the closet. He screamed at them to get away from him. He is permanently stuck in a hallucination that he is a glass of orange juice and everyone wants to drink him. May cause you to giggle, but he is in a psych ward and is terrified**

  286. The problem here is that so many people are smoking spice thinking it’s like weed, & that they should smoke the same amount as weed. The stuff is concentrated, who knows how many more times powerful than weed, so try SMALL AMOUNTS to begin with! I have a tiny pipe, the bowl is about the size of a pencil eraser. I take 2 hits off of that, not even using the whole thing up, and I’m STONED. Yes, the high has some similarities to weed, but it also messes with your head a lot worse, & a lot quicker. It’s almost like salvia divinorum – a small amount = huge head trip. The spice I smoked was Dragon, maybe it’s a little different than what other people have tried, but it made me numb all over but not real bad. I’ve lost feeling in my limbs with weed worse than spice. I do not get bad headaches, although a little too much does end up making me feel lethargic after the fast heartbeat wears off. I can’t say it’s a “pleasant high,” yet something makes me want to keep going back to it. It does make you feel kind of at a mental loss for words, yet I don’t feel STUPID like weed makes me feel. After smoking spice I did not have chest pains but I did have a cough, but weed gives me a cough too. Even after the effects of spice wore off, I felt a bit more ‘spiritual’ about life in general. I never felt like puking but it does seem to have an appetite suppressing effect.

    I think the majority of people posting here with horror stories have, in effect, all overdosed. Even the ones who smoked spice every day, they maybe just did a little too much one day, or maybe it has a build-up effect…but more likely, the concentration of chemical on the spice is not under strict control, & you just got some extra-potent stuff but there’s no way of telling. With weed that wouldn’t be a huge deal, but with stuff like this that is very borderline between a good trip & a horrific one, you can never tell. A tiny bit more could mean the difference between a pleasant headtrip & a visit to the ER.

    I’m not advocating this stuff, I’m just saying if you’re going to try it (or ANY substance you’ve never tried before) then use with extreme moderation! It hits you all at once, and if you’ve overdone it, it’s going to feel like you were hit with a ton of lead, hence the “OMG I’M DYING!” effect. The way it raises one’s heartbeat & blood pressure, it seems like it HAS to have killed someone already. Which is sad because people have mostly turned to this drug as a legal weed-replacement, either because they get drug-tested frequently, or because they can’t get weed. Even if the gov’t makes the chemical in spice illegal, people are just going to make some other kind of replacement drug, on & on, until the gov’t finally lets people have their fucking WEED. The “war on drugs” is & always has been complete & utter BULLSHIT…ever since the war on drugs started, drug use has gone UP in amount, use & frequency. One would think that the gov’t would recognize this as a losing battle, but guess what? It’s LUCRATIVE for them to keep going! They make money doing it! The gov’t doesn’t really give a crap about the health of the citizens…the only motivation of anything the U.S. gov’t does is based 100% on whether they can make money or not.

    So the poor slobs like us who just want to relax after working hard with a little weed, we end up paying the price.

  287. Hi just had to drop in an experience, maybe some one else has had this happen too. My bf has been smoking k2 for awhile now and his anger has taken over him. He gets sooo mad at nothing. At first it started with him hitting the wall out side or stomping off. Now he throws stuff at me and bullies me.then the next second he is nice to me. He smokes like three to four packs a day of k2. I was wondering has anyone else had this experience? He wont admitt that he is smoking it. But i find the packets or containers. What do i do? Any advice at all would help.

    Also your guys testimonials have helped a ton too as to what he may be experiencing.

  288. I just found an organic herbal plant website that lists plants around the world that are used as tea or as something to smoke, and they are all natural. I went to the head shop today to get the MJ brand spice I like called Primo, and I look at the back to see the ingredients which are plants, and I happen to have found the same plants on the organic plant website. So yeah, it’s possible to get non-synthetic, cannabinoid-free spice, and it’s really mild. You won’t have a seizure, or freak out, it’s very relaxing and makes you sleepy. I don’t feel like crap when I wake up after smoking this stuff. I knew I was onto something with it there. It isn’t sprayed either, it’s pretty hairy itself lol, and these types of blends are used to replace maryjane, without being harmful and full of chemicals. Of course, no one is at discretion to tell you to smoke it, so on all spice packages, you’ll see the same not for human consumption, however, by the FDA’s standards, I’m sure they probably have to say that.

  289. Ok, well after reading this, I pretty much flushed what I had down my toilet! Truth is, I agree with “Guy” I live in Europe and when I do go back to the states, it (synthetic Weed) is sold in every gas station in Michigan, so just about everyone I know Michigan from my son’s friends who are 19 and up to people I know in our 40’s smoke it. Personally, what scares me is that no matter WHAT BRAND you smoke, you can OD, and the effects at that moment are just not worth it.

    1. Smoke to much, and you get the “HELL” effect. It’s not cool and I swear, you’ve read this already in this thread a few doze times, but there’s no other way to describe it, you feel as if your soul is being ripped away from your body.

    2. After smoking it on a consistent basis, you really start pondering on things other wise you’d never ponder. DEATH!! Your death, the death of other people,ect… It really fools you into a depression.

    3. Pain in your chest, and pains occurring in the back of your arms. Simply put, if you have heart problems,high blood pressure, or heart disease of any kind in your family DON’T SMOKE THIS!!

    4.This stuff is Addicting. You can disagree with me all you want, but I don’t have addictions, and have never had em, but this stuff had me looking around here until I found a shop that was “low key” giving samples away. I was hooked!!!

    5. Loss of balance. I was smoking out of a one hitter, maybe about one good hit, no more then that, and at one point while in the shower, I fell out backwards. Screwed my back up and my head. But it was a loss of balance like I’ve never experienced before. I didn’t realize i wa on my way down until it was to late and them BAAM!!

    6. Even on days that I don’t smoke, sometimes I start to experience the same chest pains, not to mention the paranoia of death.

    7. Losing my temper. Man, unlike weed, this stuff makes you cranky on off days. Now maybe I’m wrong to blame this stuff directly, but if it is screwing with your heart, then that means your chem levels( Sugars,Vits.Circulation) in your body are being stressed as well, and that can cause a whole host of personality problems starting with anger and depression.

    8. Sleeping has become a serious problem too. Dreams, again about death and dying. DRY MOUTH like real bad, which again is the begining signs of Heart and Circulation problems. A serious lack of sleep, and feeling tired ALL DAY.

    9. Audio hallucinations along with time (brain) skips. Someone ask’s you a question and you answer it in what you thought is real time, but instead the question was asked about 5 minutes prior. Not cool. And sounds of alarms going off in your head.

    10. Eventually, my wife has had enough.

    Truth is, this shit is not cool. STICK TO WEED. If you can score a MJ card and smoke legally, then do it, other wise, this stuff will eventually KILL YOU. I know I just threw my stash away, but I doubt I’ll go back to it. Your life should mean more then dying over a “Legal” untested drug. Thank God or this thread!!

  290. Oh, and, one really important thing to remember.
    EVERYONE is DIFFERENT, no one will have the exact same experience.
    Green makes me sick.

    And as for the suicidal thoughts thing, my friend went through that and she explained how she felt, and it makes sense.
    When people are sent into a state that is different than their normal being, they spook easily. She did, and she thought the only way she’d be able to escape is if she killed herself. I’ve never experienced this, but I could see where being REALLY messed up would make you feel that way.

  291. I’m actually pretty excited to put my input here about spice. This is going to be extremely long, and it still won’t say all of the stuff I want to say. I am a 20 year old girl. I have smoked cigarettes since 14, off and on, I really don’t look to cigarettes as an addiction. I don’t NEED them. Right before I started smoking cigarettes, I started smoking weed, and kept that up until November of last year. Weed always makes me feel soooo bad, I feel unsettled and weird, and I become agitated because I’m vulnerable and I really hate that. I have dropped acid, when I was 17, as well as did coke at 17. Asthma is the only respiratory problem that runs in my family. My mother has chronic bronchitis, but that’s brought on recently from cigarette smoking. (Another reason why I don’t really look to cigarettes)

    The first time I smoked anything was around December 2010, I had just turned 19. I didn’t like it, it made me feel like I had to pee every 2 seconds, and I was really really messed up. I was scared that if I got up to go pee, that I would fall over, or stumble, or trip. Not a good first experience.

    Well, a couple of months go by, and April 2011 rolls around. My friend comes over one day and wants to take a drive and smoke spice, so I agree, and I liked it that time and smoked it maybe once or twice again after that.

    I began dating my boyfriend in May of 2011, he had been smoking spice for a bit of time, and was the one that provided the spice for my first time experience, actually. He had stuff like Mr. Nice Guy, and Barely Legal. We then came across Cloud 9, and Down2Earth Climax. D2E is one of those kinds you don’t give to first time users. It’s way too strong, but damn, I will miss what it did to me. We would smoke a good bit of stuff during the day, but it didn’t get really bad until a couple of months down the road.
    I can’t explain to you how we are when we can’t have this stuff. I know it’s addictive, I see that for myself, I can feel it for myself. He’s so anxious and everything makes him mad, and everything makes me mad, and I feel so bored. I live with him in PA, and I moved away from where I used to live in MD, so obviously, I never see any of my friends or do anything because all there is to do around here is go through the woods. I’d rather not get lyme disease, though. Ticks are bad around here. I would freak out if I had to be here alone without anything to smoke. I would begin scraping my pieces for res like a maniac.

    Of course, within a few months time of smoking it everyday, I had a really bad cough, and I still do. However, the severity of my cough is highly led on by allergies now at this point. I have analyzed the hell out of everything. I only got tar when I would cough stuff up, when they still put Cannabis in it. The last known spice around this area to have that in it, was the Down2Earth which I know for a fact sent a gooooood bit of people to the hospital. That is entirely illegal, and I have not seen a Cannabis spice since they cracked down on it.

    I purchase my spice from a headshop, not a gas station, that knows their stuff. No offense to anyone here, but they aren’t Indian or Middle Eastern, they are regular white guys that we have befriended from being in there just about every day. They even smoke the stuff too. And the stuff they sell comes guaranteed to not show up in drug tests, or have any traces of drug material. Their entire headshop is based upon the idea of natural smoking blends, so you tell me what you think.
    The ones we use now are two different brands – MJ and Black Lotus Blends. Black Lotus Blends has 3 different one gram bags that I know about- Wet, Black Lotus, and Drenched, and I will type what a couple of the back of the bags say.
    Now, if you read the back of an MJ bag, it will tell give you the plant names of the different material in the bag. They are really plant names, they do not list any chemicals.

    Black Lotus WET bag says:
    “NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION. WET the Original Potpourri is a blend of dried naturally fragrant plant material as wel as other aromatic properties. Wet is lab tested and does not contain any banned or illegal substances. Recommended use contents of one package per 1,000sq ft area. Must be 18+ to purchase.”

    Don’t take my exact word on this, but I believe the Drenched bags list the two different plant materials it uses.

    Honestly, I feel a bit better now. Yesterday was the first day that I started feeling alright again. I have just felt like … drained for the past year. There were so many new things that I tried to attribute to it, but I know what’s really up.
    The allergies are on-set from living in a house with three cats, when I’m in fact allergic, and during the worst allergy season EVER, but there’s nothing I can do about that. I am not going homeless over some fur, and the flowers finally have died out.
    Now, as for the Doctors. I went to my doctor twice. I told her the things that were affecting me, and at first she said it was Bronchitis, gave me inhalers and medicines which did nothing but make things worse. She then put me on a steroid inhaler, I had two discs that equal to one full month of dosages. About a couple of days into that and I was coughing up blood from inhaling powder. But that’s a given, and I would know, being that I have a colorful history. But anyway, the whole thing didn’t seem right to me, the inhaler just made everything drier and worse. I left a message on her machine, only to not get a reply and I haven’t seen her since. That was in January.

    I have been seeing a lot of posts about nausea and stuff, too. I think that’s because what happens is, the spice irritates the air passage, causing a postnasal drip which ends up causing a cough, and mucous drainage into the stomach. Obviously, we all know how that ends up. I can’t tell you how many times I have just randomly gotten sick. My boyfriend is worse with it though. Sometimes, we have to stop on the side of the road. It’s always directly caused by mucous though. The first initial vomit contains a lot of snot and stuff, and his and I’s stuff looks different. He coughs up black and gray stuff, and I cough up white/clear stuff. So as you can see, I don’t see the alarm in mine at least, but with his, I know that has to mostly be because he wolfs cigarettes down like they’re nothing.
    I have coughed up blood without the steroid inhaler, but it was only a couple of droplets and it was regular red blood, which I found was only from coughing and blowing my nose too hard. God, does it bring up memories of being 17 again haha. Be careful when you cough and sneeze by the way! It’s so easy to rupture something.

    I’m not sure how I feel about spice really. I won’t defend it anymore, nor will I be against it. I do not hallucinate, ever. I don’t hear things. My memory is a bit shot, but it has been since I first hit my teen years. My heart doesn’t go racing when I smoke it. I can still eat and sleep without spice, although I prefer having it. I’m still a functioning, able-to-communicate-with person. I don’t do stupid crazy stuff. I’m still really really normal, trust me haha. I think the people that go into seizures, or cardiac arrest are having those problems because they let their minds over-exaggerate. Anytime I have ever seen anybody freak out while smoking spice, it’s because they freaked themselves out. You really have to inform people to keep a good, clear mind. If you think the devil is getting you, you’re going to act like the devil is getting you. Make sense? Same thing. It’s absolutely crazy what the human mind can do. Just look at stigmata, that still just… leaves me speechless that such thing is possible.

    Now, the thing I have been so hell bent on researching was influenced entirely by the show My Strange Addiction. It really is a nauseating program, but it made me think.
    There was a woman on there who ate couch cushions. For years. Ever since she was a little girl, and she was a full grown woman when she was made to face her addiction. For the first couple of years after she started, she was getting stomach pain, so she went to the doctor and they did an xray and said that it’s only going to get worse from there. Well, years and years after, they make her go back, and it turns out she has no problems, at all. Her stomach looks like that of a person who doesn’t each couch cushions. A lot of people on these shows don’t have any signs of physical problems, but maybe because of their mind, and thinking what they’re doing is nothing out of the ordinary because of their addiction, their body maintains a healthy standard.
    So who’s to say what’s really ACTUALLY bad for us, and what’s not. Being someone who has been smoking bowls throughout the day for almost a year now, I can tell you for a fact that you don’t want to overdo it. If you need your couple of packs throughout the day, before eating, or when you feel sick, do it. Apart from the boredom, I have always had pretty bad stomach problems, too. That’s why I like smoking spice. It keeps it away, considering marijuana doesn’t work for me. Literally anything can trigger nausea in me.

    There is so much stuff I have found out spice because of my constant need to know everything about stuff directly involving myself lol. I’ve decided maybe, since I’m already a Guinea Pig, to try a test myself. I want to see if using a waterpiece collects more of the bad toxins out. I actually find that when I do use a waterpiece, it works better and doesn’t taste bad like wet dog with chemicals. It’s just… cool-feeling smoke at that point. Sometimes this stuff can really smell like cigarette smoke, and sometimes, I’ve been curious as to where the hell I’m smelling weed from, only to find out it’s the spice.

    Another bad consequence spice is having, is that people are now robbing for it, and going homeless for it. If you go to certain city places, you’ll see homeless people begging you for money so they can get potpourri. I have heard of so many robberies of spice, and it sucks, because I always saw that as a couple of bad eggs ruining things for the rest of the population.

    But I mean, I’m 20, what do I really know yet? lol.

  292. My husband and I have been smoking pot for over 20 years, we have played with other drugs recreationaly on and off over the years.2 years ago we found “spice” how awesome we thought, we can get high and not get into any legal trouble! Well…we found out how poisonous the stuff really is. After about a year we started to feel diffrent, both mentaly and physicaly. I had a decrease in appitite, which, at first, I thought was great. But after a while I could not hold down any food at all, shortly after my husband began having the same issues with eating.Extreme paranoia set in after a few months.It got so bad that we started having issues in our relationship.I stopped using the stuff a few months before my husband did. I started feeling better after about a week, but he started getting worse. We went through some very serious issues….things got really bad. My husband was commited for a few months due to a psychotic episode. The doctors told us if we would have continued using “spice” My husband would have gone completly mad…..It’s been 3 months now and my husband is just now returning to normal. I understand that this does not happen to everyone who uses “spice” but we have found we are not alone. This drug is a man made poision, not any diffrent than Meth, Ice, Crank or Bath Salts. I would never presume to tell people how to live but if your going to use drugs, keep it natural….