Monday December 22nd 2014

What happens when you snort Kratom (Mitragynia Speciosa)?

What happens when you snort Kratom (Mitragynia Speciosa)?

Kratom leaves are the freshest

Traditionally Kratom is used by those in South-east Asia as a stimulant to help increase their energy and stamina, qualities needed to work long, hard days in the fields. The fresh leaves of Mitragynia Speciosa are rolled into quids and then chewed throughout the day.  But increasingly, people are starting to use Kratom in powdered forms and taking Kratom orally or snorting it.  We will review here the different types of Kratom available on the market and why snorting Kratom is more a signs of Kratom addiction than an effective way to get high.

Different forms of Kratom

Since the arrival of Kratom in the West, different ways of utilizing its unique properties have been devised as it is difficult (unless you grow your own), if not impossible, to get fresh Kratom leaves. Dry leaf, powdered leaf, resins, tinctures and enhanced – strength powders have all been processed from the leaf and are now widely available online and in head shops. These processed forms are nearly always taken orally, usually in a tea or mixed with a sauce, in order to make them more palatable as Kratom isn’t the finest tasting plant out there.

Why can’t you snort Kratom?

There were also those ‘psycho-nauts’ who attempted to snort Kratom believing that they would get a better or different Kratom high. However, they were sorely disappointed, as were their nasal passages, because the amount of active alkaloids they would need to get high would mean having to snort grams of Kratom, something that is nigh on physically impossible .

Should all forms of Kratom be legal?

With the arrival of more purified forms of Mitragynia Speciosa on the market, snorting Kratom has become a more viable proposition but it is not commonly practiced as the effects you get from oral consumption are far more profound than you can get from snorting. This is likely to change, though, as purer forms of Kratom, and more specifically the active alkaloids mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine are created. Even more worrying, at least for those who want Mitragynia Speciosa to remain legal and away from the radar of legislative bodies, is that an IV form of Kratom is on the way, that is if it hasn’t already arrived.

Please add your opinion below. We will not post comments that encourage the use of Kratom for euphoric effect.

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14 Responses to “What happens when you snort Kratom (Mitragynia Speciosa)?
Dacey
1:52 pm July 19th, 2011

Kratom has a high medicinal value and is very helpful for relieving stress and pain. But it should not be stigmatized just as a drug that causes addiction.

Sarah
1:03 am July 31st, 2011

what happens after you snort pg tips tea cos i saw people do it on youtube but no one has told me what happens after so i wanted to know

Anon
10:20 am September 8th, 2011

Kratom Powder is not the best to snort anyway. The only reason anyone would try it is if they were addicted to snorting their pain pills and trying to curb it by snorting the Kratom instead.

I posted as an anon because I once got into opiates. Too far. Never heroin, but I would rail an oxy on occasion. It was a great time when I did it but the punishment of withdrawals when the party ended far outweighed the ten hour rush.

My advice to the legislative bodies is this: leave kratom alone. If you mut touch it, leave it for the doctors to prescribe in pill form to help addiction withdrawals. Kratom will help more addicts find sobriety if administered for less than a month along with Imodium and other necessary things your body asks for to avoid grabbing that bag of dope to end those flu like symptoms.

Best,

Anon.

Dacey
5:44 am October 21st, 2011

If someone is taking kratom in snorting way then they must be using it as a drug for addiction and thats not right since when we snort kratom then it snorted in high amount and that may harm our body.

Jess
7:10 pm March 12th, 2012

Snorting kratom sounds like the stupidest thing to EVER do with Kratom. You want to snort all that powder and have it do nothing because you cannot snort enough to give you the high alkaloid count. I took Kratom to get off of Suboxone, it worked, but I became dependent on it fast. I took just enough to feel “normal”. It lasted over 6 months then I decided I wanted to stop, I couldnt afford it and I wanted to drop the opiates for good, I admit, the withdrawal SUCKED. But all withdrawals suck. It sucked enough to teach me a lesson.

5:08 am March 13th, 2012

Thanks for your comment, Jess. How did you manage Kratom withdrawal? Your real life experiences can help others going through the same thing.

Jess
12:52 pm March 13th, 2012

I looked up that.. method I hear so much about I wish I could remember it, but it tells you to take the following : L-Tyrosine, vitamin B6, a multi vitamin, ibuprofen, ( I also took B12 for good measure ), if you can get a small supply of klonopin or xanax just for about a week to get rid of that “electrified leg” syndrome thats like RLS but runs throughout your whole body then eventually concentrating on your legs. Ambien for sleep ( but sometimes that doesnt even work), if you can sleep, listen to music thats.. well soothing. Somehow it helps. The vitamins helped me recover faster with no depression, and it gave my energy back quicker. I feel a million times better than I did when dependent on kratom. Ive been an opiate addict since I was 16, Im 28 now. So the withdrawals were particularly harsh. I had to throw my kratom away, because I had a few moments of weakness and just took one to take that feeling away. But then, it would start over again. It took me about 2 weeks to feel 100%, after 3 days I could sleep some, at 5 days I was just weak, got the occasional chills and my legs ached rather than feeling restless. A little known secret.. If you have even a slight disposition to depression, ask your doctor for “Wellbutrin” , take two in the morning, you will be surprised how much your mood will improve after a few days. Also, Immodium is actually a very slight opiate, if you find yourself in a bad way take four. It should help with some things without restarting the clock on your receptors. Oh, I cannot forget, though illegal in my state, marijuana helped my in my head the most. Marijuana has a healing quality by distracting you from your withdrawal. Instead of watching the ticking of the clock. So vitamins, xanax/klonopin, ambien, immodium, and if your prone to depression Wellburtrin. Do be reasonable with the use of the benzodiazapines because they are of course also addictive. Thats my next battle. Hope this helps. Check out the “Thomas Method for opiate withdrawal” on search engines for more information about the vitamin recipe.

jmustang
4:42 pm September 19th, 2012

does kratom really help with withdrawals

jekyl whispy
4:50 am December 13th, 2012

i don’t see how method of administration can be judged as a sign of addiction. if you’re addicted to a substance, you know it. it’s not something that a person is not aware of, and i don’t think insufflation as opposed to oral consumption is an automatic sign of addiction. i’ve never taken Kratom. i have have my own struggle with addiction, but if you saw me snorting cigarettes (silly example), i’d hope you’d lead me back to my live-in caretaker. ok, that was stupid. but i just think it’s a restrictive line of thinking to go down. some people have weaker stomachs than others…

12:36 pm January 2nd, 2013

Hi jeckyl. Thanks for your comment. We appreciate hearing from all perspectives and can agree that insufflation does not necessarily indicate addiction.

Rick
8:00 pm July 14th, 2013

For those who feel they were addicted to kratom and stopped, God bless you. I hope you live a good long life.
But I encourage you not to be a part of the “Reefer Madness” scare that is occurring just like it did in 1935 when Big Pharma wanted to figure out how to isolate THC and the govt helped them by producing a scary movie in which marijuana users are serial killers, and those who aren’t become serial killers etc. It worked, and nobody wanted marijuana in their communities and we all thought (in the 60s we were so cool for finding it and smoking it. We weren’t of course, but neither was Big Pharma who took about 80 years to come up with a drug Marinol for chemo, which is basically useless at $500 a bottle.
I’m not a drug taker nor do I drink nor use coffee. I do, however use some of the strongest kratom for a myriad of pains that sometimes happen with major heart attacks of which I’ve had several.
The medical community was happy to hand out all kinds of very strong opium drugs which worked for a few weeks; then had to take more and more and I could tell it was killing me.

I lucked into finding kratom; it was not on the top of my list of herbs to try for pain. I’d had luck with several before such as scullcap, cat’s claw etc. But they weren’t strong enough for this kind of pain.
After 2 months of study, I decided on kratom in spite of all the “scary articles”. I had seen the National Geographic TV series on Bali kratom and how for 1000+ years it has been used like coffee there and Thailand etc.
There has never been one death or overdose of kratom.
Now let me explain how people die. They die when they buy “kratom extract” which is no longer kratom. It is a mixture of methane gasses etc that change the molecular structure of kratom so that it goes from “healthy herb” to “dangerous drug”.

If buying kratom, I highly recommend the pure leaf strain, never extracts, and find the one that works the best as an analgesic. Bali seems to be very effective for that. Some use it for insomnia etc.
It is in the coffee family and thousands more have died of coffee than kratom.
So when all these 12 step zombies throw their coffee pots out I’ll take them serious “as experts”.
I have quit kratom weeks, months and even a year at a time (when not needed) and I was uncomfortable for a day or so; very much like the times I’ve stopped coffee.

I’m told there are those who buy kratom for recreational use. I feel more likely they are buying “kratom extract” which, is not kratom. It is a dangerous mixture of chemicals (that I’ve been told by experts can be very addictive). I think these people do nothing to help the cause of keeping kratom legal for those of us who must have it for pain in which the strongest opioid meds will not help.

I have always preferred herbal medicine to allophatic; yet I know herbs don’t work for everything, and imagine my surprise upon learing how effective this herb is, even for the most severe pain.

I believe users are going to be quite disappointed if they are expecting a high from it or any type of euphoria. I’ve never noticed one; but then again I don’t want to take, nor do I take “kratom extract” because the molecular structure is not that much different than the medicines that were killing me. Pure kratom leaf is helping me. A lot. Kratom extract could kill me (and I’m a fairly “tough guy” whose run marathons and taught martial arts). I’m not Bruce Lee but I’m not a wee little man that cries a lot either.

But drugs are dangerous. Responsible use of kratom for severe pain is a LOT smarter than taking hydrocodone etc which doesn’t even work well and clouds the mind.

Be very clear. When you are in a 12 step program, you are an expert. But you are only an expert on how to get yourself sober. You do not become an expert on medicinal drugs.
You do not become an expert by thinking that if all the world acted “like we do in 12 step programs, there would be peace on earth forever”; in fact that common 12 step philosophy has caused more slips than every banana peel in the Caribbean.
Know that AA is wonderful, if you need it, but it’s success record is no better than the 6 or so other major programs for drugs and alcohol.
In fact it is dismal (as are the others). 96% or so relapse at least once, most much more than once.
Since using kratom to heal my wounds (severe pain that you can only imagine unless you’ve had what I had), you cannot pray this kind of pain away….promise.
Kratom is not a drug, it is an herb that happens to have some weak mimicking of opium type drugs because it attaches to some opioid
receptors.
But this shows what “experts you are”. So does coffee, so does chocolate, so does cassein in cows milk, so does most fatty foods. It’s why they’re called “feel good foods”.
There are plenty of other ethneos much more dangerous than kratom. And kratom is much less expensive than my copay on expensive real opoids. And I don’t wake up with a hangover, no feeling of toxins in me, and I usually go mountain climbing or parachuting..
With my wife. You see kratom did for me what AA did for many of you. I also went back to college at age 46 and received my masters. I had been a dismal student in my youth.
I own 6 businesses which I started after discovering kratom since I could focus/concentrate now without severe pain.
This is not a 1 size fits all world. AA is not for everyone. Neither is kratom. I’ve tried both. AA nearly killed me by having horrendous “sponsors” who “played doctor” and just KNEW what step(s) I was doing wrong which caused the pain.
They refused when I asked if kratom was okay. I nearly died.
I have accomplished more than I ever imagined and one of my businesses is #1 of its kind since Jan 2005.
I was relatively useless before then.
I know, I know “Dry drunk”. :) I’ll take dry drunk anyday over AA.
But..by the same token, I bless that program for the people’s lives it has saved, who truly need it.,

BOB
4:28 pm July 24th, 2013

i was addicted to opiates for 10 years. went to rehab and that worked to a certain extent………in recovery you will still think of those addictive years…….they will never leave your thoughts………being introduced to kratom was like a new beginning……….i use 1 capsule a day and i do not and i mean do not ever think about opiates. its a truely amazing natural product……….all that is said about it is true………..it gives you an almost feeling of taking an opiate product, a great replacement……….legal and totally tolerent in any situation…………rather pricey……….but sure beats the alternative !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mu-ziq
7:18 pm July 25th, 2013

When you SNORT KRATOM, the Divine Hand of Darwin reaches out from the ethers and PLUCKS you away.

Kristen
9:43 pm December 6th, 2014

This is the absolute stupidest thing I’ve ever heard! I guess people really do try to put anything up their noses. Why the heck would you try to snort a herb?? You don’t snort Kratom, you might as well snort some coffee grounds while your at it….honestly I guess people can abuse anything but I would assume it would be like snorting cinnamon but way worse lol. Your not going to get any medicinal benefits or any other benefits for that matter snorting a herb, it’s not meant for that and it won’t work

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Charles Somerville is the writer of The Alcoholism Guide, a website that looks at alcoholism in all its forms and the effects of alcohol abuse on mental and physical health.