K2 synthetic weed dangers

October 25, 2011
K2 Synthetic Weed Dangers

Is K2 dangerous?

Getting high on legal herb may sound tempting. But it comes at the cost of not knowing the short or long term effects.  Below, we take a broader look at the dangers of K2* synthetic weed and the potential problems of continuing the proliferation of synthetic, legal highs.

Is synthetic weed a gateway drug?

A gateway drug is one which leads users to try ‘harder’ substances. For many years, smoking (tobacco) has been heralded as the main gateway drug. This is because it is legal (at least for those over 18) and this, in turn, makes tobacco readily available.

The same can be said for K2.

Here is a powerful substance that can give users a high very much unlike the dizzy/nauseous high associated with first time tobacco use. Not only is it powerful but, as with cigarettes, it is legal and readily available. In my opinion, synthetic legal weed is a ‘real’ gateway drugs in so far as they are psychoactive (unlike cigarettes) and can lead users to experiment with other drugs that are not only illegal but that are also far more powerful.

On top of this, the DEA is now banning synthetic weed as and when it can, which means users are being forced to buy their drug on the street where they can be exposed to other drugs. This is cause for concern. There is no doubt that the authorities will continue to ban these drugs as they appear, but you can be sure that more substances will be synthesized in the labs of the Far East.

What we don’t know about synthetic cannabis

It is only in the past ten or so years that K2 has been available to the public at large. That is not a very long time, certainly not long enough to build up an accurate picture of the long term consequences of habitual use. At Addiction Blog, we have spoken of the short term dangers of synthetic cannabinoids and read many personal stories about the side effects, yet there is precious little known about the dangers of long term use. Compared to the data we have on marijuana usage, we have nothing on synthetic weed, yet we are still uncovering facts on the long term effects of cannabis smoking on mental health. This vacuum of information on the compounds used in synthetic cannabinoids, means that those smoking this stuff are playing with fire.

K2 dangers Of prohibition

The appearance and use of synthetic weed has come about as a result of government drug policy and the machinations of the market system. Governments outlaw a substance people want, people still want that substance (or something similar to it), a gap is created in the market, and business moves in to exploit that gap. Government bans the new substance and so the circle continues.  Plus, drug testing for K2 is not yet commercial and K2 does not show up on traditional marijuana drug tests.  So, here we have a situation where  synthetics go undetected and more and more people can get hurt.

The problem with this cycle is twofold:

1. Those who smoke newly illegal cannabinoids will be criminalized. If they do not wish to use a newly banned substance, they will try and find something similar which creates the second problem….

2. New compounds will be synthesized and new K2 products will continue to come onto the market. New compounds that may or may not be as dangerous as those that went before them. Users who move from one product to another in order to stay within the law will be ingesting a cocktail of untested chemicals over the long term.

Your opinions or experiences with K2

Do you have something to share about K2? Have you encountered dangerous side effects? Are you aware of the dangers of K2? Please let us know. Your feedback can help others interested in the same topic.

* I use the terms “K2” or “Spice” to refer to all synthetic cannabinoids.
Photo credit: Lauren Paulsen

71 Responses to “K2 synthetic weed dangers”

  1. Kent Sherman

    9:08 pm
    October 30th, 2011

    The sad truth is, is that Spice/K2 is easier to purchase and a lot cheaper than Cannabis. This makes it more available, and to a wider market, making this product dangerous to many people who already abuse drugs and alcohol. Not knowing all the facts about this “Synthetic Cannabis” makes it unpredictable and even more dangerous to the public. If you know someone that is addicted to Spice or K2 please contact a professional for help.

  2. TA

    7:36 am
    October 31st, 2011

    From the age of 16 I had been smoking marijuana. I am now 31. I never had a bad experience and have never felt addicted as I can smoke every night for months on end and then stop for months on end. My boyfriend who smokes as much as I do feels the same way. We decided to stop completely a last week ONLY because as we are hoping to start a family in the coming year. Thursday last week had been 7days since we had a joint. A friend of ours came past and gifted us a gram of the so called “herbal/synthetic” alternative which was purchased legally over the counter. Within 20mins of smoking the joint my boyfriend had a seizure. It was the scariest thing I have ever witnessed. His eyes rolling to the back of his head, he stopped breathing, turned blue and then stiff as I stood there high, screaming and scared. Thankfully he woke up and after an hour he started to feel better. The image of him laying there has haunted me ever since. My boyfriend refuses to go see a doctor. I have since rung four different government departments to report the product and have not been successful.

  3. ed

    8:49 pm
    November 5th, 2011

    i have been some what a drug addict since the age of 14,mainley conventional weed,i am now 43,and have been introduced to synthetic weed.the first time i tryied it it seemed alright,not bad but since i didnt really know to much about it i didnt use everyday.so iwent about a week without it,finnally i had a really bad urge,so i went to the local retailer and purchased a gram of dead man walking,took two regular drags of it and within 30 seconds i was so blazed and paranoid i thaught i was in some kind of movie or trans,i mean my mind went crazy,as i stood in the shower washing the grease of my body,i had this wierd musical fast paced rythem going through my head,this stuff is ok,but it has sudden side affects that i could go without,kinda scary,i litterally thaught i was going to pass out,i have never been so messed up off ov smoking anything like the way i was the other night.so if anyone has some imput on my comments,please reply.

  4. Addiction Blog

    4:13 pm
    November 7th, 2011

    Hi Ed. I’ve seen people comment on similar side effects of herbal incense spice on another recent post at Addiction Blog. Maybe you can check out the discussion for a little more piece of mind. But it seems that synthetic cannabinoids have the capability to bring on almost psychotic episodes for quite a few people.

  5. Jenn

    3:06 am
    November 8th, 2011

    My son who is now 19, was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia. In the past seven months leading up to this, we was not sure what was going on with him. When he would come over he would just go in his room, and basically not talk to anyone. He wouldn’t let us know what was going on. Just recently, since the medicine has been helping him he had told me that he had smoked a lot of this k2 drug that is readily available in the gas station near me. I feel that this schizophrenia had to of come from this, he is anxious about everything. He was having hallucinations and hearing voices, and giggling out of no where. Since being on medication it has helped him recover somewhat, but it seems that he will always need that medication now. It should be illegal, I honestly cannot believe it is sold in any store.

  6. Jill

    4:04 pm
    November 8th, 2011

    My 20 yr old son is now in protective custody – hallucinations/paranoia from using this ‘legal weed’ for 2 weeks… not knowing if he has damaged his brain permanently is the worst feeling for a mother ! Just because it’s legal does NOT mean it’s safe !! DO NOT TRY THIS STUFF !! EVER !!

  7. Jill

    4:55 pm
    November 10th, 2011

    Jenn- how long do you think he was smoking it? What kind of med did ‘they ‘ put him on … My son is 72 hours out of his last ‘hit’… and he’s still not who he was prior. He is safe at an inpatient facility, I have only gotten to visit him last night, so maybe it’s too soon to expect him to be ok. My son also heard voices, he just knew that everyone was talking about him on the radio, and he would just ramble and talk to himself.

  8. Billie

    2:39 am
    November 15th, 2011

    Hey guys, I’m glad to weigh in on this subject. I had smoked the synthetic weed for about a month and was looking for new brands that were both cheap and powerful. Honestly, it made me feel better, and I thought it would be a good substitute for marijuana since I didn’t want to pop a drug test. Everything seemed fine. I had seen a few articles of the danger online, but I had convinced myself that it was a small percentage of users. This past Friday, I bought a new brand, and after two hits, I felt it and it felt immediately too strong. My vision changed, my coordination went out the window. I thought I just had too much. After spending two minutes trying to screw the cap on a 2-liter of cola, my boyfriend walked me to the couch where I kept repeating the same phrase, “I’m fine, I’m fine, I’m fine.” It sounds like a normal reaction when you are too high, but I repeated phrases out of the need to repeat them, like a broken record. All the sudden, I grabbed fistfuls of my jeans to steady myself and the pain took over. According to my boyfriend and the paramedics, it was a full grand-mal seizure coupled with a dangerous heart arrhythmia. All I knew was that it felt like my skin had been ripped off and I was sitting in an electric chair. I seized for two and a half minutes, screaming at the top of my lungs the entire time. Sadly enough, I was conscious for it all. Near the end, I felt myself pushed from my body and I watched it all from above. Near death experience or hallucination, who knows, but I was sure I was going to die. When it finally ended I was being strapped to a gurney and I had never felt so happy to be alive. I wouldn’t smoke it again for all the money in the world. A high isn’t worth the beauty of life and I nearly found out the hard way.

  9. Jill

    3:48 am
    November 16th, 2011

    Thanks Billie for giving a first hand account of what happened to YOU ! Glad to know you aren’t going to do it again… my son is now 7 days from his last hit- doing better, still on meds for hallucinations -and is much more calm and let’s just call it ‘self aware’ ! Ready to come home and start his adult life drug free !!!

  10. Dawn

    1:26 pm
    November 16th, 2011

    My son… back in July smoked some of this stuff… it was called Black Widow. He was 15 at the time. Now 16. He had the scariest reaction… He called me thinking he was having a heart attack. He had 2 friends with him… I panicked when I saw him, he was hallucinating, thinking people were trying to kill him… magnified sound of crickets and a feeling like he knew things were going to happen before they did…. He layed in bed for 4 days… holding hands with his Grandmother. We were on vacation and sent him home to be evaluated by his family doctor. His family doctor told him the effects can last up to 2 weeks.

    Well we’re 4 months into it…. he is still not normal and I do not know what to do. We’ve seen every sort of doctor. He has panic attacks, his vision is blurry… he gets numbness in his arms, he feels like he’s tripping when he’s not…. He’s been referred to a psychiatrist… but I don’t want to put him on any more mind altering drugs. He obviously has a sensitivity! I do not know what to do for this child…. He’s depressed. He has 2 other friends… who smoked similar stuff at different times… and they are feeling the same way. We’ve done research after research trying to find answers for these kids. I’m worried it’s going to end up badly for one of these children! The two boys who smoked the same stuff with my boys are fine…. they had no adverse effects from it…. Only him. However, this other boy… apparently smoked from the same batch, but it was at a different time.

    They say… life doesn’t feel worth living. Not that they are suicidal… but they don’t care about anything.

    I’m scared to death… it seems there is NO help out there!

  11. Dawn

    1:40 pm
    November 16th, 2011

    Also… he’s had stomach symptoms and headaches… he’s seen a GI doc… for this gray stuff that comes out of his stomach…. constantly. They cannot find anything physically wrong. He had an endoscopy, ultrasound…. I just want some answers for my child! I fear for him…. but at the same time if I take him to a psych doc… they are going to diagnose him with something that will label him for life…

    In my own research, I have found…. K2 attaches to the receptors unlike weed that just makes a fogginess between them…. and it can take months to get this “sludge” off these receptors… I keep telling my son this in hopes that it will just go away on its own… I found another kid who had the same thing happen and he said it took him 6 months to return to normal…..

    Good LORD… 6 months!!!! My son is not seeing improvement which is what is scaring me….

    Anyone…. with answers…. anyone with similar reactions… please share your story!

  12. Jill

    12:08 am
    November 17th, 2011

    Dawn- I certainly would be more concerned with mental/physical issues than having a label for the rest of his life. Take him in to a psych…. before there is any more time wasted on just hoping he’ll come out of it, while all the while he is suffering…. My son is taking risperdol to help with hallucinations/paranoia…. doesn’t mean he’ll have to take it forever, but for now it is working…. Call a local mental health clinic and ask if they can refer you to a doctor who has already seen patients with issues from the use of synthetic weed… Keep in touch, and my best to your son !

  13. Jean

    4:10 am
    November 19th, 2011

    A few weeks ago my brother, two friends, and myself were driving around smoking K2. My brother had a seizure in the back seat of my car from the K2, and it was honestly the most terrifying thing I have ever seen. His eyes rolled to the back of his head and his body was convulsing. We pulled over and called the paramedics, who arrived and put him on oxygen than took him to the hospital. DO NOT TRY THIS. My friends, brother, and I agreed that it should 100% become illegal, and we will never smoke it again.

  14. nm

    5:22 pm
    November 20th, 2011

    We have lost our daughter to this POISON, we tried to help her, took away her keys, her money, her phone: she walked away with nothing due to this addictive substance. Recently, she stopped going to school, work, church, associating with any friends or family. Her friend, INCENSE, replaced all these things (2 weeks of use – $800.00). We forced her into our car after she walked away and turned her over to the police, because she threatened to kill herself, because we wouldn’t give her back her car (she had been sleeping in it, to avoid our detection and intervention). She had vomited and peed in her car, and yet could not see her own folly. She was fine, we were crazy. Due to the fact that she is over 18, we have no trace of her and of course have no right to know. Thanks HIPPA. So we drive around hoping to find her, not the life we had envisioned for our college graduated, sweet, and previously sensible child. KEEP away from this trash. Boycott, or OCCUPY these entrpre”sewers”. They are rolling in the dough, blood and tear stained. Don’t ignore this legal evil. Protect your progeny. God help us all.

  15. Terese

    12:24 am
    November 21st, 2011

    My son is in hospital right now for what we suspect is the effects of k2. Sounds a lot like what I am reading here. He appeared to have the symptoms of schizophrenia. He keep saying he was fine. His friends were very worried about him. The doctor put him on Zyprexa and it seems to have alleviated some of the symptoms. He is coming home tomorrow and I am very worried about him because he says he is fine and he did nothing wrong. He thinks I put him there in hospital but he is 18 and they felt is was necessary for safety reasons and the doc suspects K2 also. ???? I am scared for him.

  16. Addiction Blog

    5:42 am
    November 26th, 2011

    Hi Terese. Thanks for sharing about what’s happening with your son. Some parents implement drug testing in a “contract” with children who have been suspected of drug abuse as a condition for staying in their homes. This is one way that you can be sure that your son is clean or not. There are some specific drug screens and tests that you can buy to test your son’s urine for the presence of cannabinoids. Please let us know if you’d like more information, or not. K2 and its cousins (herbal incense, legal weed, etc.) are dangerous and possibly habit forming, so I’d suggest that you deal with your son’s use head on.

  17. Justin

    6:34 am
    November 28th, 2011

    I decided to try this new thing called 6.0 for the first time this past July. I smoked half a joint and felt pretty good. So a few weeks later i called my friend again and he said he had some so i went and met him down at a campground and started to smoke it. After we finished i then realized we smoked almost a whole gram on my second time and knew i was going to be really high but thought i would like it like the first time. Not even 2 minutes later i started to shake and couldnt move and spilled my tea all over me and my car and made sure i threw my keys so i didnt have any urge to drive in the state that i was in. As the high was coming in i just “let it happen” and i felt like i was engulfed in a wave and was stuck floating there in my seat. Time slowed and as i watch each drop of rain come down it hit the hood of my car and burst into colors. I was all fine until i concentrated on my heartbeat for not more than a split second and i heard/felt it beating faster. Then my chest got hot and i instantly thought i was having a heart attack. i clasped my chest and closed my eyes,which was a bad idea because i instantly thought that i was falling into hell and dying. Then i forced my eyes open and felt instant relief from the horror. I started to look around and out of no where i was standing out of my car and watching myself go through it all. I was back in my body again and started to see something walking around outside but i didnt know what it was. I felt nausea and opened my door and threw up and looked and the edge of my car was right in my face but the ground looked like it was miles away from me. i threw up two more times after that and started to look around again. I saw a dark figure standing next to a tree and thought that it was the grim reaper coming to take me away and i started to think about my mom and how big of a mistake it was to ever smoke behind her back and started to think about how much of a piece of shit i was. I started to pray for, what i thought was, the last minutes of my life. I felt that God could actually hear me. Then i started to speak out loud hoping my mom would hear me saying i loved her and that i’m sorry for doing this to her. As the grim reaper got closer i accepted that i was about to die and was just going to let him take me so i shut my eyes and seriously started to see light. Then i was waking up at 4 a.m. looking at myself, thanking god that i was still alive, and happy that i would see my mother again.

    Ever since then, since i was alone when it all happened, i can not stay at my house alone.
    I dont feel fully connected to my mind, i will wake up and not be sure if im in a dream or not but then i just convince myself that its real life and i go on with my day on edge, paranoid, getting flashbacks and get the same feelings of dying.

    If anyone has a method to keep their minds off of those feelings or knows how to feel like me again please let me know! I’m so desperate to feel normal again!!

  18. Kjack

    6:22 pm
    November 29th, 2011

    I am 18 and I have smoked marijuana for 2 years and was recently put on probation therefore i tried K2. It can be a great high, but it is also a very unhealthy feeling, I have smoked K2 for about 6 months now and last night i had an experience I do not ever want to feel again. My buddy came over my house and brought with him the “strongest K2” called “Smokin Camel 10XX”, he said it was a great high so I was excited of course. I took 1 single hit and for the next 40 minutes i was on the worst trip of my life. My main problem was my heart, I was having heart palpitations like you wouldn’t believe. My heart was beating so fast that i could not stop twitching and shaking. It felt like i was on a Hard Drug of some sort. I honestly thought I was going to die! K2 is so dangerous it is unbelievable and I will never smoke it again! The fact it is legal blows my mind, and MARK MY WORDS, people will die in the future due to K2 whether it be long term effects or due to the high K2 gives you itself. The government better do something fast before K2 does it for them…

  19. Dawn

    1:57 pm
    November 30th, 2011

    Justin,

    This is exactly how my son felt… he said he knew things were going to happen before they did… He could not get enough water in him…. He felt like he was going to hell… He was also paranoid for for the longest time… and would not leave his grandmothers side and would not stop holding her hand. This is a 16yo boy… who had 3 friends on vacation with him…

    It’s been 5 months… my son still complains of these same feelings… STILL! But, there are times I see him resurfacing to his same ol’ self… so I think it’s getting better.

    I’ve been explained… that unlike weed that creates a fog between your receptors… the K2 attaches like a sludge and until that sludge wears off… you will live in what they call a “fishbowl” effect… slow motion, fuzzy…. like you’re high.

    My son said the same thing… to me. Actually he told me I was the worst parent at first because I would not take him to the hospital and he was dying… :( Now… he feels quite the opposite.

    Hang in there…. do not give in to this drug! It WILL get better. Tell whoever you need to about it…. PLEASE tell your Mom… and tell her she needs to have an open line of communication with you about your feelings, because despite the fact that everyone will think it’s crazy…. and the effects of K2 cannot last…. They DO and they CAN!

  20. Daniel

    2:57 pm
    December 5th, 2011

    I just wanted to relate a story. I have smoked this a few times but I can’t anymore.
    Yesterday I smoked some of the pure chemical they put in this stuff. First it felt really good like a release almost like weed mixed with an opiate. Then I started getting paranoid, realized it was too much and tried to calm down. I ended up puking twice. And I was washing out my mouth experienced some of the “craziness” people are talking about. I thought it was a good idea to brush my teeth so I started, but halfway through it I was just spreading toothpaste on the toothbrush making a mess.
    Luckily I snapped out, realized I was doing something crazy and had to retrace my steps. I realized I had been wandering all over my apartment and had missplaced my phone as well.
    Everything went back to normal fortunately but I won’t be using this stuff again, ever.

    I also wanted to comment on the people saying that it caused schizophrenia in their children. I am the son of a doctor and I’m training to go to medical school and I guarantee you that this, nor any other drug, can not “cause” schizophrenia. What is far more likely is that your son or daughter already had latent schizophrenia, waiting to come out. It usually appears around age 20 so this may make sense as some of them may be around 18 or so. While it may have triggered the schizophrenia in them, they had it anyway and it was going to come out one day, in some form or another.

  21. LT

    3:48 pm
    December 5th, 2011

    I tried this with a buddy of mine and i felt completely dead. I couldn’t believe that this stuff is even legal. My parents and I have had conversations as well as my brother. Never try this stuff. This should be illegal! Marijuana is like pepsi compared to this coke! Honestly, this stuff is terrible for you. I was pretty much having mini strokes.

  22. Nick

    1:13 am
    December 11th, 2011

    Daniel, you are not going to medical school and you have no right to say that “What is far more likely is that your son or daughter already had latent schizophrenia, waiting to come out. It usually appears around age 20 so this may make sense as some of them may be around 18 or so. While it may have triggered the schizophrenia in them, they had it anyway and it was going to come out one day, in some form or another.”

    You are wrong and need to stop lying to yourself. I am sorry to those who read his post and took it into consideration.

  23. BJ

    5:30 pm
    December 12th, 2011

    Don’t believe this new drug is a real killer? It is a known substance to kill you. This new drug will slowly kill you after you have smoked it. Be educated and stronger. Do not lose your faith. Peace and Good Luck! BJ

  24. Lynn

    9:14 am
    December 14th, 2011

    I smoked last night a synthetic drug with the name “Faust” on it…i guess its another type of spice
    Until now I feel numbness and heaviness in my arms and legs, i feel like i am so slow and heavy
    last night was the worst…tongue rolled back, electric emotions throughout the whole body, started in my legs
    heart was beating like crazy
    i just want to feel normal again…when will this feeling go away?

  25. whit

    4:55 pm
    December 14th, 2011

    Daniel is actually very correct and right on the button about schizophrenia. I have a masters in abnormal psychology that I recieved from Cal Poly Pomona in california (suck it); anyway, schizophrenia is a genetic disorder that has to be “Triggered” by some sort of trauma. An individual may have it and not know it because it hasn’t been triggered yet and its possible that it may NEVER trigger. If you talk to people who are medicated and have been diagnosed with schizophrenia, I promise you each one of those people has experienced some sort of trauma in their life. Your brain determines how severe the trauma is to the psyche. Usually the trauma is from abuse of any kind, but it can also be caused from a severe accident. Those are just a couple of examples and there are so many scenario’s but like I said its up to the individual’s psyche to determine how traumatized they were and then you get various effects to the body as a result.

  26. Dillan James

    2:34 pm
    December 16th, 2011

    All, I have had a handful of bad experiences from smoking different varieties of synthetic. Mostly a brand called “Aztech Warrior”

    I have been smoking off and on for a period of 3 months. From the research I have done, the side effects seemed minimal. I dont believe any extensive research has been done as to long term use/effects.

    Over the 3 months I have had a handful of bad experiences, the last of which has directed me to stop smoking synthetic.

    Overall in these bad experiences I have felt nauseous to the point of vomiting, elevated heart rate to the point I felt like I may have a cardiac problem/ arrest. Intense and extended feelings of “discomfort” / Alienation from my body. A feeling of non control of my body. Intense shaking. Intense mental activity and attentuation ( awareness of the present moment, past, and future simultaneously. My brain attempts to process all of these things at once, including my surroundings. At times this is overwhelming and is uncomfortable. And sometimes renders the inablilty to communicate effectively with others.)

    My most recent experience smoking with my girlfriend was interesting /terrifying. We smoked less than normal, through a water pipe as usual, using the same brand. Both of us had intense negative moments of the trip. At one point I felt as though I was told I was “going to hell,” reality and my surroundings appeared to be fake or “plastic.” I truly felt within myself that I had made a bad decision by continuing to smoke synthetic. The only way I can relate this to you is that at this point, it feels as though you are a swimmer in the ocean and you have wandered out too far. I believe at this point in my case and similar cases, this is when reality “tears” for the user. After all this is a pyschoactive drug, our brain regulates all things in our body, and if we disassociate mentally from ourselves and our body, then that control is lost and in my opinion can lead to cardiac arrest, seizures and paranoid /psychotic episodes.

    A few days later I decided to smoke again to find if this particular experience was unique or would happen again. I smoked the same amount (2 hits), and it did not. To me, this proves that it doesn’t matter how much / regularly you smoke, you never know what you are going into.

    Personally, I will not continue to use synthetic. There is not enough research that has been conducted to fully understand what it does to people using it. I don’t recommend it, and if you do continue to use it please be safe and be aware of yourself and surroundings.Make sure someone is there to care for you in the case that a medical situation should happen(Cardiac arrest, seizure, etc) Remember love, and positivity, light be with you.

  27. Paige

    3:19 am
    December 27th, 2011

    I work at a mental health unit, and I have my masters in social work. I have not seen any drug more devastating to mental health in a very long time; kids (teenagers) and young adults are coming in every day with psychotic breaks, schizophrenia-like symptoms and complete mental break downs from this drug. They DON’T come out of it most of the time, and when they do, it takes weeks/months and they are never back to baseline completely. I am sickened by the destruction of lives that this drug has caused; I am not an anti-drug campaigner by any means, but this drug is ending lives mentally if not physically. Please don’t try this, or continue to use it, it is not worth your sanity for one more high. I have never posted on anything before but I feel so strongly about what I see every day that I had to reply to this article.

  28. josh

    10:14 pm
    January 3rd, 2012

    wait … so this stuff is more dangerous than normal weed, heck what am i saying its more dangerous than skunk and its legal ?

    thanks for the heads up

  29. Nick

    1:04 pm
    January 17th, 2012

    My brother starting smoking spice toward the end of last summer when he had to give up real cannabis for job security. Him and his gf smoked it every single day until they both quit around new year’s. They were smoking at the very least 3 grams between the two of them daily and sometimes MUCH more. Well, about 2 weeks ago he started acting very anxious, which quickly deteriorated to psychotic symptoms. They were convinced it was just withdrawals as his gf experienced anxiety and convulsions for a few days before leveling off. But he wasn’t getting better, much worse in fact. He became paranoid and delusional, covered his apartment in nonsensical notes, had random fits of laughter, burst into tears unprompted, and wet himself often. Hes 21 with a very solid mind, never had any problems with anxiety and no family history of any mental illness. He was hospitalized about a week after symptoms appeared and has yet to receive a diagnosis, though the symptoms are identical to paranoid schizophrenia and thats what the psych is leaning towards. Hes responding well to Risperdal but hes still very far from “normal”. Much of the staff believes the chemicals should have been out of his system by now and its possible the large, prolonged exposure brought about a dormant psychosis. They also suspect many of the products he used were laced with various chemicals similiar to pcp and other unregulated research chemicals. His progress has been slowing down and he seems trapped in between his world and ours. Idk if Ill ever have my brother back.

    This stuff is unbelievably dangerous. PLEASE consider the risks and warn your friends and family.

  30. JP

    9:01 am
    January 18th, 2012

    I have a lot of experience with synthetic cannabis. Ive been smoking it since 2008 when I was placed on five years probation. Back then most people I knew never heard of it and I could only find it online. The stuff has actually changed a lot since then. The products that are out now are so much stronger than the ones I was smoking back then. I know for a fact ive become so addicted to this substance but I can’t even put forth any effort to stop. I smoke it every day and as long as im not at work,driving,doing important things etc.. Im stoned on it. Recently Ive mainly been using one specific blend called SYN Mean Green. Mean Green is like the strongest weed high Ive ever had but its kinda short lived 25-45 min and then I want more everytime it wears off. Basically what im trying to say is this stuff is not the same as marijuana and that the potential for a serious addiction problem with synthetics is real. Ive lost interest in life all I care about is getting high. I can’t even get help cause if i go to rehab My PO will kno and Ill get locked up again. I got locked up for violation already once last year and I don’t wanna go back to jail which is the reason I started using the Synthetic blends. By the way I have experienced withdrawals starting a day and a half after my last use. This stuff has ruined me. I would tell anyone never to try it.

  31. ts

    7:06 pm
    January 20th, 2012

    Ive been smoking K2 for a while now mad hatter is really good so is blueberry sniper and kush and trainwreck there all pretty good so is green cobra. the say K2 is 50 to 400 tines stronger than pot thats so true this stuff has mess me up. Its a really wired high but also great. nothing has happen to me yet altho every time i smoke it my right lung hurts im only 17.

  32. Kathy

    9:51 pm
    January 22nd, 2012

    I can relate to you and everything you say Dawn. My son smoked what he called Diamond back at the very end of June and for a few months prior. The day that took him away was at the end of June. He smoked cigarettes filled with the stuff continually. I had no idea what he was smoking. I thought it was a plain cigarettes and told him to quit chain smoking. He started out with the muscle problems and physical pains that kept him bedridden for weeks and then he began holding his breath until his eyes nearly popped out. He still does it today, almost 7 months later. He calls it pressure in his head. He has been hospitalized 4 times and just for a few days each time. There is never anything they can do. After a month he went in to psychosis which he still comes in and out of. He has gotten a hold of pot a few times during all of this and doctors have told me that this turns the clock back on his recovery. He is 21 so we have no way to commit him to a place where he can be safe to recover. We do the best we can at home watching him as though he were a baby. He can’t stand it and thinks he is fine. Nearly everything you said Dawn, I concur with. I do believe he has gotten somewhat better and pray all of these kids will be and that this poison will be removed from the planet. At the very least we need to educate as much as we can so parents and kids know what this is, pure poison.

  33. Kathy

    9:53 pm
    January 22nd, 2012

    And I should mention that he was on risperadol but is now taking Zyprexa.

  34. vickei and dustin

    10:32 am
    January 23rd, 2012

    Hi, my name is vickie….i just wanting to get my story out there about the 7H here in bowling green ky where in from….i am merried with no kids but iv been with my husband cents i was 12 and he was 14….well heres my story…..back this time last yr we had everything a hosue he had a job which he’d been wroking there for about 2 yrs we jsut closed on our first home and we had what most 20yr old and 22yr old didnt have where im from we had everything we were happy well in or around feb of last yr a friend come over that had this 7H he was liek its better then pot and its legal.. we were liek NO WAY!!!….so we tryed it at first it was pretty awesome… well 2 weeks went by and we wanted more..so we went to our bank and got a small loan jsut a 200$ loan is all we went and got a 10 gram bag at the local hokua lounge…we smoke that whole bag with in like 3 days…and we went and got more….we got so hooked to this stuff that we were selling our things ask for money from people and useing his checks to get it we even made friends with the owner of the HL…well in may everything went down hill….we were 2months late on our house bills…the lights got turned off the water got turned off and we were getting the house taken from us and he was about to lose his job…well he lost his job may 1st of last yr…we kept smoking it we were living in our car and smokeing 7H everyday we did this till around sept…well my mom step ina nd made us moving with her and made us quit smoking it…..he hasnt had a job cents were still homless we have been living in our car all winter long…but we have learned our leason i guess….his had real bad heart issues and i have had other women issues…last month i found out i was 3 months pregnant well 2 days befor my birthday i lost the baby….they doctors said it was due to my organs not working with my other organs to help the baby stay alive…..but thats jsut one thing out off and million things going on im ours lives we r homeless our familys r mad at us and we have no where to go…..im not asking for a hand out….i just wont my story to get out there..theres some ladys that i no that r doing this all becuz they wanna be rich and famous they dont care about anyone its really sad…but plz keep us in ur prays and everyone this stuff is bad stay the hell away from it

  35. cindy

    3:47 pm
    January 27th, 2012

    Hi everyone. To start off with im 27 yrs old and I dont use drugs but Last summer I tried this synthetic weed, just one hit is all it took (in the moment kind of thing). It all started with me breaking into this laughter. My sister got so scared she asked me if I was ok. As she was walking torwards me, the way the room looked, what was going to happen, the people that were going to be there, the things that were going to be said I already knew! At that moment I felt as if I was going to die. All I keep telling my sister was that GOD IS REAL! I heard all my prayers that I would pray every night. I felt gods presents. I heard people praying in the background. I only had seconds left… I was scard at first. I started to ask god for forgiveness, I was getting my breath taken away from me. As soon as I felt forgive by god,I blacked out. I had and out of body experience. I was floating, seen my body and my sisters n friends figuring what was wrong with me. I thought about them how they were going to freakin out, I thoight about my family and my life. That after all these years I have done nothing with it. I asked god to give me life back. I needed to do something big with it. next thing I know I open me eyes gasping for air, BAD!!! All I wanted was air in my lungs. After I got my breathing in order, all I craved was water. I prayed and thanked god! God is real and this “weed” is no joke. Please stay away!! Theirs only one cure moms/users get closer to God….. Period! Im fine now. Only side effect I had for 1 week was shortness of breath. Im good now. :) hope this helps. My prayers are with all of you.

  36. fsb

    11:51 am
    January 29th, 2012

    My story is going to sound somewhat different than the rest, as I am a grown adult. I have stopped smoking synthetic at this point, and thought that I had come away without issue. My husband and I were not avid pot smokers, but had found our selves in possession of some weed, and had participated in our youth and were willing but had no smoking devices. We headed to a head shop, locally owned and operated. They were known for selling pipes and such, and new stuff(salvia) we never tried this, but they sold it, we werent frequenters of the store but knew of the place, as we live in a small town. We looked at all the different pipes and the lady who owned the store asked us if we had tried the legal marijuana(we were like what?) so she pops open a bag of serenity now, and encourages us to try it in the store, it legal. So we try it in the store, it was a mild weed-like buzz, we bought our papers and left(we did not purchase any synthetic stuff). We smoked over the fourth of july weekend, and everything was cool. We went through a tough time with family illness and death, several months later and i honestly didnt want to goto a doctor for some type of medication or advice, I had self medicated at times, be it a headache or allergies, i felt confident that marijuana was a seritonin actor, and would take the edge off. I live in a pill head town, taken over by oxycontin and soon learned that our summer fortune would be difficult to repeat. I called a couple of friends( the friends who still plays in a band in his 30′s and will be an eternal pot smoker) to be informed that everyone, everywhere in our town was dry and no one was able to get anything(legalize it). So deseperate for some type of relief from my grief of losing my mother and father in a few short weeks, i wanted to heal myself and rid the anxiety and depressions that was looming like a black cloud over me. I found myself back at the head shop, asking about the legal marijuana, she had the stuff and it was cheap. I took my treat home, it was still weed like, and it lasted longer and I could relax and laugh and be myself, I wasnt consumed with this stuff, it became a night time routine, before bed. It helped and it had strange sexual side effect, it intensified everything, now it had two purposes. Helps with anxiety and makes sex more pleasurable. Win, win. I had told my brother in law about the stuff and he eventually tried it and was hooked instantly, all day, all night, looking for something stronger. He found something called spaced. I had never ventures from my original formula and was still only smoking at night, in the safety of my own home. We tried his “spaced” and it was not the same, it was much to strong, it was hallucingenic, and just bad. I did not have a seizure, but felt like i was going to, and did vomit repeatedly. My husband was terrified and afraid, i was going to die. I was scared and wanted to just get home, fearful of driving, we walked home( about a mile). I was ok, and had no effects of the space episode the next day, and vowed never again, but continued with Serenity for about a year until it was banned by local officials. I didnt fret, and went about my business for several months. One summer afternoon, my husband came home with a small container of a different synthetic weed, it was called white spice. I was up for a try, we were leary, it was not what we started with, and we had bad results from the other product. The white spice was ok, a little bit stronger, but the same, a weed like high. Once again, it is fourth of july, 2010. My loving brother in law cannot be outdone, so he has to go get something that will be better and stronger than his brother, he gets something called headtrip. We have our day planned, we cook, swim, and went to watch fireworks, and come home to let off our personal fireworks, and sample our smokes of choice. He tried ours, we were all giddy and swimming again. He wanted to smoke again, so we tried headtrip. I took only one hit, and it started from there. I was unable to talk, walk or function. I sat in a chair and didnt move for several hours, wondering how everyone was functioning, and they had smoked way more than me. It was scary strong, and it seemed it was very unpredictable. Had i gotten resin from the white spice, mixed with the headtrip, i was afraid to smoke for months. As the anxiety and grief crypt back up around the holidays, i found myself back at the headshop self medicating, skipping the possibilty of trying to find marijuana. They had white spice, and i was back on the smoke. Both of my parent were born in November, so not only their birthdays, my birthday, thanksgiving, and christmas and their anniversary was coming up, and so my problem begins. I am hooked full on, i cannot quit smoking the stuff, cant get enough, still conducting a normal life by day, and going home to melt into the couch and smoking until the minute i fell asleep each and every day. This has continued for a year, and now the synthetics have been banned again. I am beside myself, having fits of rage and anxiety, I have not had any of the bad side effects while using the substances, but I am feeling not myself now. Seeing my doc, he says, i doubt very seriously that you are chemically addicted to this stuff and blows it off, and tries to give me some new and great ssri, in which i refuse to take( as my sister commited suicide at 18, shortly after starting an ssri medication). I am very fearful of what these medications do, although i was not fearful of the synthetic marijuana. I dont wish to go looking for something else foreign to heal the pain and mask the reality of life without a family to support me, and a medical community that ignores the mentally ill, sending them home with a bag of magic pills. I have a better question? Why do we have these dastardly cannaboid receptors? Not a single person can explain this on a medical or a spiritual level and nothing acts on these receptors except cannaboids, as if god had intended for us to discover the wonders of marijuana. I wont go as far to say that these receptors have ruined my life, but have enhanced it. My situation is very aggrevated by circumstance, and a large percentage of this has been my own issues, but coping with the loss of my sanity drug, that has gotten me through these rough spots effectively has proven to be difficult. I am very saddened by the issues that parents are having with young persons’ who may not have known what they were getting into, i knew and was willing and it helped me to get through some very dark times. It has been about 6 weeks and not a days go by that i wish for one more night with my choice of synthetic, but i am not freaking or having any type of flashbacks, just sadness. I hope that everyone has a positive outlook and learns to accept that America has a large population smoking and condoning the use of marijuana. The general public has not put two and two together yet, we could cure the national debt with the legalization of marijuana, people will pay the price, regulate it, tax it, and ship it to the masses. The effects are far less mild than drinking a bottle of anything, and doesn’t contain anything that our bodies cannot handle naturally….just sayin

  37. ap

    2:09 am
    February 7th, 2012

    I have been smoking k2 like products for about a year. I do not feel paranoid, scared, or stupid. I feel relaxed. Maybe the heartbeat is a lil faster after smoking, but the same thing occurs after real weed. I am not a stoner, only a full-time student working two jobs trying to have a fun,legal time.

  38. grace

    7:12 pm
    February 13th, 2012

    i have been researching synthetic weed for a class im takeing and i have heard almost nothing good about it from the kids at my school. i have never smoked befor because i am to scared. why is K2 getting so popular if its so bad? why isnt it illegal? but if it is banned/made illegal then most likely kids will do it more. its just how teens are… they want what they cant have.

  39. Ashy

    2:22 am
    February 21st, 2012

    My brother has been smoking spice and cigarettes for the past two years. he smokes at least 4 times a day. he fiends for the stuff. he is experiencing all the side effects listed above as well as SEIZURES from it, uncontrollable periods of black-outs, loss of consciousness. His ability to function. We’ve found him just standing up somewhere rocking back and forth next a pile of vomit. He didn’t even know we were there. he lost his job over it. his girlfriend over it. He doesn’t think he has a problem because He can’t remember the things that are happening to him. He uses it as an escape from his problems but he doesn’t realize that smoking this herbal incense stuff has now become his problem and it is killing him. After his latest seizure the doctor said that he developed a hole in his brain…the poison in the K-2 is killing him. His memory is shot. This is from 2 years smoking the stuff… I keep praying for him.

  40. Kathy

    5:04 pm
    February 21st, 2012

    My gosh Ashy. The stuff is HIGHLY addictive and I hate to hear that your brother is still smoking it despite all of this. I know how hard it is to get through to someone who is not all the way there. Who is caring for him? You need to try and get some people together and have an intervention. Tell him doctors say that he is being poisoned. Get him away from his current friends some how. Treat him like a baby if you have to since that is about his level of thinking now. Where does he get it? What is his name? I want to pray for him. Lots of love to you Ashy!

  41. Chris

    4:21 am
    February 24th, 2012

    When I was first introduced to this stuff, i smoke a whole ciggarete filled with it and felt badly. I could not, and would not move or else i would puke, after that I realized that this stuff was soo powerfull all i needed was one or two hits max and I would have a great high for an hour, but hearing all your stories makes me not wanna do it again

  42. Nathan

    2:22 pm
    February 24th, 2012

    I’m not here to debate the legality or morality of doing drugs but I do have something to say.I’m 43 and have been casual pot smoker for a good portion of my life.The wife and I would sit out around the fire and we smoke a little weed and basically have a good relaxing time.We don’t smoke much so we don’t require much.About a month ago my ability to get weed disappeared.Not to long after that I came across K2 Standard and it was great,a nice mild buzz and it was cheap.So we’ve been smoking it for about a month and before you know it we were smoking it every night and consuming 6 grams a week.This past weekend I came across a brand called Armageddon.After my wife went to bed I broke it out packed the pipe and took a big hit and that was it.I started feeling very nauseated and my left hand started shaking uncontrollably so I decided to go to bed and I started to completely freak out to the point where I scared the hell out of my wife.I became so scared I flushed all the K2 and Armageddon.Three days later the muscles in my left arm feel very weak and hand still shakes a little,my chest feels tight and have a consistant mild headache.As the days progress these effect are lessening but who knows what else this stuff did to me and there’s been little research on what the chemicals sprayed on these herbs can do to you long term.The moral here for me anyway is that the synthetic stuff and the real stuff are two different things.The fake stuff in my opinion is much more dangerous than real weed.I will never touch that fake garbage again.

  43. nae

    4:54 pm
    February 25th, 2012

    I thought what I was having was weed and had sum last nite I cant explain the feeling it felt like I was dying I snapped in and out of reality I was crying and couldn’t stop sayin God please help me I am fifteen and that was the worst feeling I ever had! I just start feeling better I thought I was going to die last nite all I could hear was my own heart beating really fast I jus kept kissing my son who turns seven months today, I will never smoke again.! After looking up hallucinations after smoking weed and hearing other people symptoms I came to a realization that what I had was intact k2.

  44. brac

    12:08 am
    February 26th, 2012

    addicted for 8 months.
    1 week clean.
    can’t condemn this shit enough.
    its not worth your life, and it will claim it if you let it.
    good luck to all suffering from this terrible affliction.

  45. Seabass

    2:04 am
    February 28th, 2012

    I’ve smoked k2 for over a year now and I’ve never had anything bad happen to me health wise.

  46. Rhonda

    5:07 am
    March 13th, 2012

    Ed. The reason the government is having such a hard time making it illegal is because people are buying it. Even if only once. You say marijuana was safe? It caused you to try k2 and almost lose your bf. just don’t do any drug.

    My daughter tried it once and has permanent brain damage now. If you never bought it to begin with, the people selling it would stop because they aren’t making money.

    What are we as parents supposed to do? Lock our kids up and not allow them to live the life they created?

  47. Daniel

    6:05 pm
    March 13th, 2012

    Rhonda, I doubt marijuana “made them” try K2. In contrast, it’s the fact that its illegal that made them try K2.

    Its easy to sit on your high horse and say don’t do any drug, but everyone uses some drug. I’m sure you have drank alcohol, or at the least drank coffee, don’t forget even caffeine is a drug and is more addictive than marijuana(that’s proven).

    Drugs like these exist because our government makes the safer alternatives illegal and throws people in jail for smoking plants that are less dangerous than alcohol and cigarettes.

  48. Kathy

    1:27 pm
    March 14th, 2012

    Drugs like this exist because greedy people care more about how much money they can make than about the lives of kids in this world. Some are even chuckling when others are harmed. It is absolutely disgusting. I am with you Rhonda. I know what this completely unregulated substance has done to my son. He has been in psychosis with intense physical issues for over 9 months now since he smoked the poison from the convenient store. People who blame the problem on the legalization of marijuana are just interested in being high themselves over the safety of others. If a drug is to be sold in stores, regulations are necessary. This is a scam and a lie and just plain evil and as dangerous as possible. You and I know Rhonda. We have seen first hand what can happen.

  49. Rhonda

    2:33 pm
    March 14th, 2012

    For me, it’s not about what’s more or less dangerous. It’s about the legal status.

  50. Rhonda

    5:15 pm
    March 15th, 2012

    I agree. It’s terrible to watch your child suffer. Stop buying it and they will stop makin it. Quit making excuses people, just stop!

  51. Daniel

    7:45 pm
    March 15th, 2012

    Yes, the legal status is a problem. It shows the hypocrisy that our government is willing to allow a dangerous substance like this to be legal, while a marijuana, just about the safest drug out there, remains illegal.

    Don’t you see this is why people start smoking this K2 crap? If weed were legal, I guarantee no one would smoke this dangerous shit.

    And Kathy your point about legalization makes no sense, regardless of what you have heard marijuana is safe and no one has died from it or developed lung cancer or any of the crap that comes with legal drugs. Marijuana should be legal, regulated and taxed.

  52. Kathy

    3:06 pm
    March 16th, 2012

    We don’t buy it. My son tried it almost 10 months ago. The affects are long term not something that vanishes with the air. This is a sick money making scam by heartless people.

  53. jenny

    12:06 pm
    March 21st, 2012

    I did k2 a few weeks ago. The first time I took a hit I was in what my friends and I call ‘picture mode’. Picture mode is where your eyes work like strobelights without blinking. I thought it was pretty cool, so when wore off I took two more hits. I couldn’t see for minutes at a time. I was in no control of my body movement. I felt my actions happening but it felt kindof like my while body was asleep. My friends pulled me out of the car because they thought I was going to green out. I have no memory of saying this, but they told me I screamed ‘I’m under a volcano!’ Don’t do k2 as your first drug, man..

  54. Muhumads

    1:07 pm
    March 24th, 2012

    The sad thing is , iv been smoking K2 here and there aswel as Pot. The funny thing is , k2 hit me harder for 10mins then wears out , though pot lasts longer. Why does most governments make weed illegal but allow k2 which is not natural. To be honest , if sum1 wants to get stoned they will get stoned , so why not allow something thats natural , been around for centuries aswell and has no reports of anyone dieing from it (Pot) instead they rather people do what it takes to get there high by taking K2, i dislike K2 from taste , smell , felling and having to be a guinea pig for k2. Either make Alcohol illegal with Weed or make Weed Legal with Alcohol…. both get abused and 1 causes more deaths and crimes a year then the other but the least dangerous 1 is illegal while the 1 that is more dangerous is Legal.

  55. Chris

    2:37 am
    April 17th, 2012

    i smoked so much of this stuff, now on the inside of my left elbow and around my wrist im always getting a tingling sometimes discomfort sensation ALWAYS. It bothers me about 85% of the day. Pretty much the only time I dont notice it is if im doing something active. But the second i chill, sit down, or lay down its back. For about a year straight i was splitting a 3 gram bag AT LEAST with a friend who btw doesnt experience this stuff. My heart rate will randomly increase and even when it doesnt increase it just feels sometimes like its going to beat right out of my chest it beats so hard. I quit about 3 weeks ago and have no urge to touch it again. These experiences are what lead me to quit and also my friend has quit too. The symptoms ive explained have not gotten any better. After an EKG the doctors have told me im fine and they cant find anything wrong with me… this scares me because I know something is wrong. They’ve told me I can go see a cardiologist but I dont have insurance and i’m only 22 so I have absolutely no way of paying for that… I seriously think im slowly going to die or randomly have a heart attack… Ive done this to myself so I expect nobody to feel sorry for me, im just scared…

  56. Bree

    6:15 pm
    April 24th, 2012

    My fiance’s friend died from smoking k2! Thats all that needs to be said as far as i am concerned

  57. James F

    11:16 am
    April 28th, 2012

    All i can say is that i wish i had have read this before i tried it yesterday around 200 pm i smoked it for the first time with my brother thinking it was a safe alternative to weed less than five mins later i was out of my mind things appeared to be way closer than they actually were my heart was beating out of my chest i was so afraid i was going to die so i went to the hospital told the nurse what i had done she took my vitals and had me wait as i was waiting i started to feel better so i left and went home but im still not a hundred percent my thinking seems off i feel sleepy but i cant sleep im restless and the sad thing is im supposed to graduate from college next month i should of knew better i really hope theres nothing seriously wrong with me please pray for me im still so scared

  58. Kathy

    4:34 pm
    April 30th, 2012

    I am sorry James. You are in my prayers.

  59. James F

    5:22 am
    May 2nd, 2012

    Thank u so much Kathy good new is im feeling alot better except im having a hard time focusing and i have very light but frequent twiches hope it clears it self over time im gong to the doctor friday to find out how serious it is please continue to pray for me.

  60. Rhonda

    1:31 pm
    May 2nd, 2012

    Daniel your wrong. People have died from smoking marijuana. It can still cause lung cancer. Breathing anything into your lungs in a regular basis can cause lung cancer.

  61. Daniel

    11:10 am
    May 3rd, 2012

    Rhonda, not a single case of lung cancer has ever been linked to marijuana use alone. In all of the cases of lung cancer with marijuana smokers, the subject smoked cigarettes as well. In fact, the American thoracic society could not find a single link implicating marijuana as a cause to any type of lung or throat cancer associated with smoking cigarettes.

    Marijuana is a safe and natural plant medicine that can be useful in all of our lives.

  62. nicole

    8:20 pm
    May 4th, 2012

    Hi I am a 20 year old female and I would like everyone to hear my horrifying story on this “drug”. I would consider myself a pothead, I used to smoke weed on a regular bacis, everyday most times a few times a day. I got to the point where I needed a better job, to do that I needed to stop smoking weed. So I heard about this “weed subsitute” called k2. The first time trying it we smoked the bubble gum flavor. I had no bad experiances with that and the high was enjoyable but didn’t last very long, nothing like a weed high. But when the high would go away I would get a pounding head ache. A while later we decided to smoke again, we had gotten the substance called dead man walking. When I smoked with my husband that night I was fine, the next day however he was at work and after coming home from a stressful day at work I decided to smoke some. After smoking I was so high I hated it, so I went to take a shower (when smoking weed that’s what I would do to sobor up, just take a shower it would kill the high, or blow my high, some people call it a buzz killer) in the shower is when the horor began, I was feeling fine just really high, I started washing my hair and out of no where I started felling really weird… the water hitting my body felt weird and the water run over my face look strange (like slow motion) the water started feeling hot and then cold and then hot and cold again (it was very fast but it was like spurts of hot water then spurts of cold water), I remember thinking I need to get out of here but I need to get this shampoo out of my hair, then I looked over at my arm and it looked weird, all of a sudden I felt as if I wasn’t in my own body, that’s when my heart started racing and my body started shaking. I got out and turned the water off and started drying off, at this point I was shanking so bad I couldn’t even put my cloths on. I wrapped the towl around me and went to my room as fast as I could. I wrapped up in the blanket and called my cousin. I didn’t tell her what happened I just talked to her (normal like nothing was wrong) and listened to her taking and I started calming down and was fine. This really afected me because now it is hard for me to take a shower alone, I need to have y husband with me or I start thinking about it again and need to get out right away. I’m not sure wht happened to me, some say it was a “bad trip”, but that was enough scare for me to never do it again! And I hope other people read these and decide not to try it, I know my story isn’t as horifying as others (like the guy who was talking fine to his gf while smoking this he said “hold this ill be right back” and jumped out the window, or the boy who chewed part of his toung off and many more) this is not something to mess with! People keep hearing these stories but think they should try it anyway (I didn’t know any stories about it before this happened to me) and I don’t understand why, its sad to say but most people have to try it and have a bad experiance with it to never do it again! People just think they know better then others do and its sad because I’m sure if you go to ur local hospital and ask them how many cases they have of people coming in with bad reactions to this crap I’m sure its more then just one or two every day! I hope my story and others help teens and even adults to stay away from this stuff… its very dangerous! Thank you for listening to my story, and please warn others!

  63. Jay

    3:07 am
    May 7th, 2012

    I did this stuff like a month ago. I felt like i was going to die and so on… I didnt know really what this stuff was. I have never even smoked pot before. Idk y i did it but i am still very freaked out about this stuff! I just want to know if everyones syptoms are gone yet and what i can do to just feel myself again! please help anyone that has experienced this. I feel like it has ruined my life but i know its prob just all in my head.

  64. Jay

    4:20 pm
    May 8th, 2012

    by the way. i only did it once. how do you keep ur mind off of it? im freaking out still!

  65. Jay

    9:21 pm
    May 8th, 2012

    I smoked k2 a month ago once and I am still freaking out and I just wanted to know what I can do to help myself out? Someone please help me. I feel like I have ruined my life.

  66. Addiction Blog

    12:50 pm
    May 10th, 2012

    Hi Jay. It might help to see a family doctor and ask for a reference to a specialist like a neurologist, who can examine your symptoms further. Very little is scientifically known about the effects of K2 synthetic weed on humans, but maybe following up with an MD can help ease your anxiety.

  67. Dawn Gaddy

    1:53 pm
    May 10th, 2012

    I posted awhile back about my 16yo son who smoked this stuff last summer at the beach…. when some of you talk about being outside of your body…. this is a long term effect, he talks about this ALL the time… he has been medically treated… 1st by a doctor, who told him it could take a couple weeks for the symptoms to subside…. that was not the case…. months later and him constantly thinking about his incident, I took him to a psychiatrist…. he would constantly talk about everything feeling fake… things not being connected….. The psychiatrist put him on an anti psychotic…. and when he told me he felt like jumping in the road in front of a car I took him off it…. I honestly did not know what to do for this child…. my child was a changed person… I had to seek counseling for the grief I experienced…. he was now paranoid, anxious and could not stop thinking about this incident…. It’s now 10 months later….. he has been on anxiety meds for about 3 months now…. it has helped a lot…. HOWEVER, the lady who talks about not taking a shower…. he will never go to the beach again, he cannot get this incident out of his head.. it’s almost like a post traumatic stress…. He smoked this drug one time and took 7 hits…. at first nothing, happened, he said…. within 15 minutes, he thought he was having a heart attack…. he was out of his mind… hallucinating, thought he was seeing things happen before they did….. For the next 3 days, he did not leave his grandmother’s side…. and stayed in bed…. hallucinating. This drug has definite long term horrible effects…. and anyone who says different…. come and talk to me. Fortunately my son is 85% better at this point… but I doubt he will ever get off anxiety meds…. He is still reclusive…. and we’re talking a kid who skateboarded every single day for hours…. that is no longer the kid we know today… Something needs to be done about this “legal” drug that ruins people’s lives….

  68. Kathy

    7:00 pm
    May 10th, 2012

    I have already written on here but Dawn is absolutely right!! My son also has been suffering for almost a year. He had both physical pain and psychosis. We are trying to ease off antipsychotics but it has completely stopped all activity in his life. He was a skateboarder and surfer too. I don’t like what they do either. Also, he has to hold his breath often to try and stop the pressure in his head. I am talking just short of a year. STAY AWAY FROM THE POISON!!!

  69. shaman1

    9:06 pm
    May 10th, 2012

    To Ashy: My 25 yr old homeless street friend,addicted 6months rocks himself on the floor in a sitting position in the middle of greyhound bus station. Very intelligent young man, but addicted and his head twitches seizures I believe, hes 6’2′ im only 5’1 how am i supposed to get him to the Dr. I have to talk to him like a baby as well. HIs mind is childish one second angry the next and he gets it from a trashy addict whos sadistic and very abusive/possessive of my friend. I also suspect a personality disorder where he says things like make him look pretty, as far as I knew for several months he wasnt gay but i dont know what the spice has done. he has dysfunction downstairs so im not sure. but he lets this trashy dirty bum snug up next to him when they sit to smoke it. now he went to portland, or and im out of state to settle a lawsuit here. But i will go find him there in the homeless district to try to save his life or he will end up dead somewhere. its called drug sickness in the body/mind usually from something traumatic that happened in childhood. with him he had a drug issue fm age 9. by 17 was arrested for meth so i dont know how much hope there is left, but if its a fraction i have to try b/c i drempt he made it sober and had a son.

  70. Kathy

    7:27 pm
    May 11th, 2012

    Shaman, God bless you. I will be praying for you and for your sad friend. What is his name? I applaud you your efforts.

  71. Patrick

    11:47 am
    May 14th, 2012

    I took some stuff k2 called knock out and it has messed me up. When I was on it I felt as if my teeth were being pulled out and I saw Jesus at one point. This was a very short span, but I feel pressure on my teeth a lot of the time. K2 is nothing like marijuana, it is a much greater danger, and if marijuana were to be legalized we wouldn’t have this issue. I will never ever smoke k2 again. Scariest thing of my life.

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